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Future NRL Stadiums

Stagger Lee

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. The roof is one of the most exhorbinant costs of construction and they rarely provide satisfactory protection unless a patron is sitting in the last few rows of teh grandstand.

Exactly - the wettest I have ever been at grounds in Australia have all been at the SGC/SFS/Olympic - so much for roofs.

Give me clean and plentifull toilets - if your taking your wife and daughter to the game this is very important! :lol:

Give me safety - I've been to nearly every soccer stadium in england before the late 1980's and the policing / fire /crush hazards standards between the 2 are chalk and cheese. I feel safe watching and taking my family to NRL games.

Give me ease of access in public transport or adaquate car parks

Give me easy access to bars / food - I want to watch the game not queue

Give me space to spread out (ok I have seats now ...but :p pffftt) with my kids who want to run around and such before and during! the game
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A roof is really way down the list of wants :cool:
 

cleary89

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Do you think the dogs , tigers and souths would be getting the crowds they are today if they were still playing their games at grounds with hills on the side?

All of those teams have grown their fan bases by playing out of modern stadiums.

Which in turn means more money for the club , which means they all might be around in 100 years.

Saints crowds increased dramatically when we played out of the sfs or was it anz (in 2003?) amirite?
 

Clarke

Juniors
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This^

Have a look at a crowd at Penrith Statium on a cold, wet night. Most grounds with hills still draw better crowds on miserable nights than Penrith does despite them having plenty of plastic seats.

Penrith is a bad example. Little to no shelter at Penrith.
 

Perth Red

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Exactly - the wettest I have ever been at grounds in Australia have all been at the SGC/SFS/Olympic - so much for roofs.

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A roof is really way down the list of wants :cool:

My point about Australian architects. For some reason they do not understand the drip line concept! I've been in 120 year old stands in the UK that keep you bone dry in the most horrific storms. How hard can it be to create a shelter, we've been doing it since caveman times ffs!

as for the rest of your post, yeh great when its a nice sunny afternoon game but given we only get them once in a blue moon now adays we have to change the facilities to match the realities. Those 6000 in the rain crowds paint a great picture for a game that wants to be number one in the Southern Hemisphere.
 

Perth Red

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Penrith is a bad example. Little to no shelter at Penrith.

That's the reality for most stands at older NRL grounds, the roof line barely covers that back 6 rows of seating.

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Gibbo

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My point about Australian architects. For some reason they do not understand the drip line concept! I've been in 120 year old stands in the UK that keep you bone dry in the most horrific storms. How hard can it be to create a shelter, we've been doing it since caveman times ffs!

as for the rest of your post, yeh great when its a nice sunny afternoon game but given we only get them once in a blue moon now adays we have to change the facilities to match the realities. Those 6000 in the rain crowds paint a great picture for a game that wants to be number one in the Southern Hemisphere.

Funnily enough I think the Gold Coast stadium has one of the largest percentages of seats undercover, around 70% if I recall? Makes a big difference IMO
 

gallagher

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Maybe, they have called this stage one. Stage two is supposed to replace the shed end with a new all seater stand and put a roof over the new Sth stand end, filling in the corners at that end. That will take capacity up to 25,500. Stage 3, if it ever happened would see the final stand (west) replaced.

Stage 1 cost $95.1mill (+$25mill to buy the lease from the council)
Stage 2 expected to cost $75mill
Stage 3 uncosted and no plans on what size that final stadium might be.

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDoQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vincent.wa.gov.au%2Ffiles%2F18ecd9ae-4b50-4242-8e95-9fab010b7914%2FPier_S_310_02_P3.pdf&ei=4fQxUYb4CMmgmQWsmoC4BQ&usg=AFQjCNFjhn-Jg9tHXy7gITlN9rBODxSrhA&sig2=9M2-nsGn8dmSuTI2Zw6WoQ

Whats the deal with the west stand PR? Is that heritage listed?
 

Perth Red

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Whats the deal with the west stand PR? Is that heritage listed?

It has some parts heritage listing but is a bit of a joke given its design, not much of heritage value imo! The front gates are strictly heritage controlled but I wouldn't imagine there would be too much objection to the West stand getting knocked over and replaced.

Funny story were they actually heritage listed the broken glass set on top of the wall at the front gates! Major health and safety concern so they agreed they could grind the glass down so it didn;t protrude as long as the bit set in concrete remained. Heritage listing in Perth is a farce, they knock over beautiful old buildings and retain horrible 70's monstrosities all the time!
 

supercharger

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Supply and demand in yank land. Take New England, not hard to find 70,000 die hards willing to sit in minus 20 degrees when you have a population of 14million to chose from. One thing I never could understand about stadia in America is the nicer climates have domes and the freezing areas have open stadiums. wtf is that about?

It's not as if attendance drops when the weather gets cold though,
and the only thing better than November/December/January games at places like Green Bay, Chicago, foxboro is late season/playoff games at open air stadiums in Edmonton, Regina and Winnipeg.
All though they are putting a roof on the new stadium in swaggerville
We get to move From this
http://markosun.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/stadium-1.jpg
To this
http://thehuddle.co/huddle/finally-its-been-admitted-invesors-group-field-will-not-open-until-2013/
 

supercharger

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NFL is suited to the snow and is loved by all (some of the best ever games have been in the snow).

It is not very good in the rain though.

The rain doesn't impact the offence all that much though, I always found it made things a lot more difficult on defence
 

Lockyer4President!

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Read an article a few days ago about Parra's chief trying to get the new stadium built in or near the Parra CBD. It mentioned that the location of current Parra stadium was too small or something along those lines.

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Parramatta in pole position to win the west
March 9, 2013
Richard Hinds

FOR Parramatta chief executive Ken Edwards, the time to build another stadium could not be better. A federal election in which the western suburbs are a key battleground. The spectacular rise of the Western Sydney Wanderers. The appointment of a new NRL chief executive with a significant war chest and a mandate to explore big ideas.
For a long time, the NRL's only perfect Storm played in Melbourne. Now, suddenly, the conditions that will allow the game's potential to be unlocked are aligning.
Last week, Edwards and Western Sydney Wanderers chief executive Lyall Gorman spoke with several local politicians about the idea for a new venue. An indication that both codes have embraced the need to co-operate, rather than compete, for their mutual benefit.
The vision is of a state of the art, 45,000-seat stadium with a retractable roofThe site of the existing Parramatta Stadium has been deemed too small. ''But it would be important to be somewhere central, with existing infrastructure and road and rail transport,'' Edwards says..

For too long, big projects such as new stadiums seemed well beyond the NRL's scope. With the game constantly at war with itself, there never seemed the time, the energy or the money. The clubs were similarly ill-equipped to exploit the opportunities provided by the improvement of the game on the field - few worse than the Eels.

The appointments of four chief executives and three coaches in a four years were symptomatic of a club lurching down one dead end after another. Now, as the Eels modernise a once lacklustre administration, they hope to benefit from change at NRL headquarters, and accelerate their own growth.
A new stadium able to cater for larger crowds and offer better corporate hospitality is the key plank in a five-year plan Edwards recently presented to the board. After four months in the job, the former chief executive of ANZ Stadium and the Hunter Sports Group has attempted to define a path that takes a club that should be the ''jewel in the crown'' much closer to fulfilling its latent potential.
Edwards says the plan was embraced by an Eels board with a colourful reputation. Although, having been responsible for the acquisition and administration of what he calls ''Nathan's [Tinkler] toys'' in Newcastle, Edwards is well equipped to deal with demanding bosses.

Like regional rivals such as Canterbury and South Sydney, the Eels are attempting to vastly increase revenue through an improved membership model. To reach his ambitious goal of 40,000 members in five years, Edwards has recruited a former Western Bulldogs executive and employed a fan-engagement specialist from the Greater Western Sydney Giants. Further indication NRL clubs have, belatedly, embraced the AFL's successful blueprint.

A recent report that the Eels would split with long-time main sponsor Pirtek at the end of the season is another indication of their ambition. In a bid to double its $20 million gross turnover, the club is putting a higher price on its brand, and hoping to attract a sponsor with a well-recognised national brand. Edwards says there has been some interest from potential replacements.

There are other significant components in the five-year plan. Increasing the base of juniors, improving fan engagement and charitable work, and building a new high-performance and community centre. But a new stadium would be the most significant and symbolic indication of Parramatta's renewed growth.
As the chief executive of ANZ Stadium, Edwards was instrumental in building the venue in the west and, later, enticing NRL clubs. But he sees a new stadium in Parramatta complementing, rather than usurping, the larger ANZ Stadium just five kilometres away.

''You're still going to have the bigger games and a good share of the club games at ANZ Stadium,'' he says.''It's about building something that caters for the growth of a game which I think is only now really taking off.''
With the politicians in the west flourishing chequebooks, Penrith and Campbelltown are considered other potential venues. Edwards is lobbying strongly, using Parramatta's thriving central business district as a lure. ''You can see in Melbourne, and even with what's developing at ANZ Stadium, you need infrastructure and facilities around stadiums,'' he says.

Parramatta's vision is compelling. The Eels' 40,000 members packed into a new stadium in the game's heartland. A great club reinvigorated by improved administration and Ricky Stuart's coaching.
For now, it is only on the drawing board. But, for the fans of a club that has punched well below its weight, even the existence of cogent plan is cause for optimism.


http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...-position-to-win-the-west-20130308-2fqz3.html

45K with a retractable roof and near a Caxton Street type area. So basically Lang Park with a roof, this could be awesome for Sydney fans.
 
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Timbo

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If you have Fox, flick FS2 on now. Force are playing at the newly re-opened nib, it looks brilliant.
 

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