Future NRL Stadiums

[Miller was a legend]

Soft merkins. Get a brolly

 

[Prometheus]

On cold nights the hill might be half empty, but so are the stands.

 

[Clarke]

Thought the exact same thing. What a joke it would be to limit the capacity for a non existent team with no hope of getting even a 1/3rd of that limited capacity anyway.

It would also limit the stadiums chances of holding bigger games like Internationals (30K should be enough imo).

Would be fantastic to see it all go through, hopefully if it does they get a slightly better deal than the titans though.

I think you'll find the Titans have recently re-negotiated their Stadium deal which is a lot better for fans the club.

 

[firechild]

On cold nights the hill might be half empty, but so are the stands.

This^

Have a look at a crowd at Penrith Statium on a cold, wet night. Most grounds with hills still draw better crowds on miserable nights than Penrith does despite them having plenty of plastic seats.

 

[TheRam]

Given a capacity of 20K I don't think an average of 15k is too bad. Cold, wet and weeknight games don't sell out no matter which ground.

Really??? Put them in a modern stadium, with a roof over their heads and in comfort and we will see about that.

 

[TheRam]

Reclaimed airspace between central and redfern!!!

Huh?

 

[herbert henry1908]

This^

Have a look at a crowd at Penrith Statium on a cold, wet night. Most grounds with hills still draw better crowds on miserable nights than Penrith does despite them having plenty of plastic seats.

Lol.

This is not about manly vs Penrith.


If you have a stand that has plenty of undercover seating it will always attract more people than a grassy hill in wet conditions.

I'm not totally against keeping one hill at one of the ends. But in a modern , professional sport hills on the side are farcical.

 

[Stagger Lee]

If you have a stand that has plenty of undercover seating it will always attract more people than a grassy hill in wet conditions.

I'm not totally against keeping one hill at one of the ends. But in a modern , professional sport hills on the side are farcical.

Bollox! - Giving the fans what they want is always the go.

The hills on the Gong and Kogarah grounds are fantastic, given the rest of the ground in both cases is very modern why is the hill packed with family when there are still plenty of undercover seats available even in the most dreadful of conditions?

 

[herbert henry1908]

Bollox! - Giving the fans what they want is always the go.

The hills on the Gong and Kogarah grounds are fantastic, given the rest of the ground in both cases is very modern why is the hill packed with family when there are still plenty of undercover seats available even in the most dreadful of conditions?

Do you think the dogs , tigers and souths would be getting the crowds they are today if they were still playing their games at grounds with hills on the side?

All of those teams have grown their fan bases by playing out of modern stadiums.

Which in turn means more money for the club , which means they all might be around in 100 years.

 

[firechild]

Lol.

This is not about manly vs Penrith.


If you have a stand that has plenty of undercover seating it will always attract more people than a grassy hill in wet conditions.

I'm not totally against keeping one hill at one of the ends. But in a modern , professional sport hills on the side are farcical.

No, but Manly and Penrith are both in the outer reaches of Sydney and both traditionally have average or below average crowds. Having thousands more plastic seats didn't work for Penrith crowds, what makes you think it will work for Manly? Fact is people (including me) love sitting on the hill and some people will not go to the footy on a cold, wet night no matter what the stadium is like.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Do you think the dogs , tigers and souths would be getting the crowds they are today if they were still playing their games at grounds with hills on the side?

Last time I was at Leichhardt oval it still had a hill on the side :roll:

 

[Frailty]

Thank god for those stands...

The point of this post?

1. Using pictures is a poor argument.
2. Wet, cold nights decrease crowds whether stand or hill
3. Stands do not automatically mean bigger crowds.
4. If a club plans on growth they need to look at increasing capacity and have it planned.

 

[firechild]

First pic looks like a soccer match. No wonder there's noone there.

 

[Perth Red]

Bollox! - Giving the fans what they want is always the go.

The hills on the Gong and Kogarah grounds are fantastic, given the rest of the ground in both cases is very modern why is the hill packed with family when there are still plenty of undercover seats available even in the most dreadful of conditions?

Cost? for some reason NRL clubs think having somewhere to sit where your not going to get soaking wet through is a luxury and charge double the price of standing on a grass hill!

 

[Perth Red]

We can all post selective photos! Noone is suggesting they buid a ANZ or SFs at Manly are they? You really believe more people wouldn't be encourgaed to take the family to games in wet weather if they know they are going to stay dry? I'm not just talking about plastic seats, I'm talking about stands that actually keep you dry in inclement weather, something Australian stadium architects seem to have great difficulty in designing.

 

[firechild]

You ignore the cost PR. It wouldn't cost all that much (relatively) to add a stand behind the hill. It would add an extra 4-6000 seats and improve the place greatly (including adding more corporate areas). No way in hell are we going to get the funds for a whole new stadium.

 

[GAZF]

A boutique stadium like Brookvale can certainly afford to have a bit of hill in front of a stand (10-15 m with a raised stand behind). As a result, the stand roof doesn't need to be as large.

 

[big hit!]

facilities don't require roofs.

the majority of football facilities in the USA don't have roofs, and folks attend in droves.

Australians are treated like royalty when it comes to sport. Cheap tickets to attend matches, live broadcasts against the gate in the same market, yet we're still soft as butter and demand roofs on venues. The roof is one of the most exhorbinant costs of construction and they rarely provide satisfactory protection unless a patron is sitting in the last few rows of teh grandstand.

 

[Perth Red]

Supply and demand in yank land. Take New England, not hard to find 70,000 die hards willing to sit in minus 20 degrees when you have a population of 14million to chose from. One thing I never could understand about stadia in America is the nicer climates have domes and the freezing areas have open stadiums. wtf is that about?

 

[applesauce]

Supply and demand in yank land. Take New England, not hard to find 70,000 die hards willing to sit in minus 20 degrees when you have a population of 14million to chose from. One thing I never could understand about stadia in America is the nicer climates have domes and the freezing areas have open stadiums. wtf is that about?

NFL is suited to the snow and is loved by all (some of the best ever games have been in the snow).

It is not very good in the rain though.