FUTURE OF MELBOURNE

[PARRA_FAN]

Hey thats a good idea, lets get rid of Melbourne. And then get rid of Manly then Souths. :roll: :roll: Are you sure your names not Dennis General?

Maybe you should start a Beach Volleyball competition in Iceland.

 

[The Whippet]

Keep the Storm in. If we give up now we probally won't be able to go back.

They need a new stadium and marketing manager.

 

[PARRA_FAN]

I think theyve got a new one already I think, he used to do AFL.

 

[dimitri]

I think theyve got a new one already I think, he used to do AFL.

former ceo of st kilda i think


great news

 

[Mr Angry]

It ain't going to work no matter if you give it 100 years and 1 billion dollars and i have more chance of winning lotto than a storm junior has of playing for australia. No youngsters are interested in playing league as they are raised in afl households.

This is not true, there are boys with no necks somewhere in Victoria, one will be found, my tip the first Victorian to play for Australia will be a prop.
That shape has little use in AFL, unless you are quick off the mark ala lockett.
How many are out there hotting up there holdens unusable in the AFL game.

 

[dimitri]

im sure theres many MEN in victoria who dont want to play a nice person game

 

[DIEHARD]

The Storm are an essential part of the NRL. And this old crusty Soviet is nothing but a troll.

Ignore him.

STORMERS FOR LIFE!

 

[Generalissimo Stalin]

the storm adds nothing to the comp and should be relocated to the central coast a true league region with massive supporter and sponsorship base -

the nrl are fools not to include both central coast and gold coast and pessist with the storm especially when they are being totally funded by news when this money can be spend better in country league regions instead.

why should the storm receive salary cap concessions and assistance when sydney teams don't considering sydney is far and away the most expensive city to live in.

the crowds for storm games are decreasing and basically it's only ex nsw/qld and nz's who attend these games and may have sons who may play league.

one bad year and they would be lucky to get friends and loved one's to attend.

the writing is on the wall and to you who say sponsors will pull out and it's a national comp are talking through your behinds - look at the population of nsw / qld and nz and why would sponsors be worried about storm relocating when their games are shown in the grave yard shift on tv in any case- if i was a sponsor i would want my product showing in prime time. the comp is played basically in two states and a small area of new zealand.

I will ask you these questions - how many supporters will the central coast and gold coast attract and how much in sponsorship will the central coast and gold coast attract compared to what support and sponsorship storm attracts.

the game is a business and business sense will tell you that the storm should be relocated to the central coast and the gold coast admitted as the 16 team for the above reason - increase in supporters/ sponsorship /merchandise sale and expose of sponsors products.

the nrl is mostly run by baffoons with no business sense except for of course Nick Politis who should run the NRL Solely on his own

 

[joshreading]

Ohhh the big corporate sector of Gosford is calling. Get a life, I guess you also think that we should bring back Stalin and Lenin, get back to the good old days.

Melbourne is the key area in promotion for the NRL at present, far out even Souths are for Melbourne.

 

[Generalissimo Stalin]

Ohhh the big corporate sector of Gosford is calling. Get a life, I guess you also think that we should bring back Stalin and Lenin, get back to the good old days.

Melbourne is the key area in promotion for the NRL at present, far out even Souths are for Melbourne.

You been to the central coast lately?? - obviously not- Storm key promotion for the NRL - in what promoting a poor decision which is what the NRL usually make.

the good old day's will never return sadly even with Comrade Putin becoming more Authoritarian each day as foolishly Criminal Georgians and Ukrainians have turned their backs on Mother Soviet Russia and have fallen for the capitalist dollars promised by the americano's. They will regret it when they become americano puppet states and cannon fodder for americano imperialism.

Long live Soviet!!!!!!

 

[bozza tgg]

Stalin, this get rid of Melbourne broken record is complete nonsense.

Sure currently the crowds aren't setting box office records but what sort of idea is it to replace one club in the second biggest market place in the country with one from a region that has had 3 different versions of what was a sinking ship.

If you want an example you only have to look at the Brisbane Lions a club that basically struggled for years for a supporter base and yet this year posted yet another $1 mill + profit. Sure they aren't the number 1 club in Brisbane and they never will be but it didn't stop the AFL making sure it succeded.

10 years ago 90,000 people turned up to a state of origin in Melbourne, now we are flat out getting a state of origin telecast within 2 hours of kick off. What is the correlation there??

How about instead of knocking the storm and Melbournians you get behind them, I tell you KFC don't move out of town because more people eat at McDonalds.

 

[gladiator]

Good to see the marjority of posters are now surportive of the storm remaining in the comp, this was probably not the case a year or two ago.
I think though we all need to let the serial storm killers in GOULD, HADLEY,VAUTIN and FITZ know their personal agendas don't come before the good of the game and that we want the storm to be here to stay.
If they can get it right in melbounre ,the storm could be huge and the benifits to the game massive. It will happen ,i have total faith in our great game.

 

[Generalissimo Stalin]

Stalin, this get rid of Melbourne broken record is complete nonsense.

Sure currently the crowds aren't setting box office records but what sort of idea is it to replace one club in the second biggest market place in the country with one from a region that has had 3 different versions of what was a sinking ship.

If you want an example you only have to look at the Brisbane Lions a club that basically struggled for years for a supporter base and yet this year posted yet another $1 mill + profit. Sure they aren't the number 1 club in Brisbane and they never will be but it didn't stop the AFL making sure it succeded.

10 years ago 90,000 people turned up to a state of origin in Melbourne, now we are flat out getting a state of origin telecast within 2 hours of kick off. What is the correlation there??

How about instead of knocking the storm and Melbournians you get behind them, I tell you KFC don't move out of town because more people eat at McDonalds.

The reason why brisbane bears and swans pull crowds is the the number of victorians /south australians etc that have migrated north to nsw and qld who are AFL supporters not league plus a few disgruntled league supporters and those that go to be seen thrown in the mix.

you may say they have both struggled but both have been sucessfully and drawn large crowds something the storm has failed to do and they have been almost as successful as the brisbane bears consistently maing the finals.

It is like trying to convert americano's from their football to league or baseball to cricket - it will never happen.

The fact of the that matter is people are not as single minded in nsw and qld as they are in victoria and accept a range of sports in these state which belies the myth of melbourne being the sporting capital.

how many of the 90k were melbournains/victorians as the i understand themajority of the crowd were nsw/qld's who travelled down on tours etc.

a business must locate itself in a area where there is the greatest support and need for their product and sport is a product and the support and need for it would be overwhelming in the central coast which is not the case in melbourne as the support or need for it is not there.

for the storm to survive post news they must relocate.

 

[Happy Gilmore]

Wait to you see what happens in 2005, they'll get good crowds, more fans and their money will increase, then what will you say after that Stalin?

 

[Iafeta]

Ohhh the big corporate sector of Gosford is calling. Get a life, I guess you also think that we should bring back Stalin and Lenin, get back to the good old days.

Melbourne is the key area in promotion for the NRL at present, far out even Souths are for Melbourne.

You been to the central coast lately?? - obviously not- Storm key promotion for the NRL - in what promoting a poor decision which is what the NRL usually make.

the good old day's will never return sadly even with Comrade Putin becoming more Authoritarian each day as foolishly Criminal Georgians and Ukrainians have turned their backs on Mother Soviet Russia and have fallen for the capitalist dollars promised by the americano's. They will regret it when they become americano puppet states and cannon fodder for americano imperialism.

Long live Soviet!!!!!!

I have, my opinion of the Coast was it seemed like a sprawled out series of mud dwellings harbouring one central road. Gosford itself looked minute.

Especially if you compared that to Melbourne. No comparison whatsoever.

 

[PARRA_FAN]

That Melbourne CEO will do a good job for them, in the marketing area. Then theyve got Frank Stanton, ex Manly and Australia coach.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

the good old day's will never return sadly even with Comrade Putin becoming more Authoritarian each day as foolishly Criminal Georgians and Ukrainians have turned their backs on Mother Soviet Russia and have fallen for the capitalist dollars promised by the americano's. They will regret it when they become americano puppet states and cannon fodder for americano imperialism.

Long live Soviet!!!!!!

I think it's sad that we are debating with a guy who has named himself after a dictator who killed more people during his time then Hitler.
He might be joking, but it still ain't cool.

 

[nqboy]

Call it a Battle of Wits with an Unarmed Man.

 

[Raiders Plight]

Relocating the storm would be a huge mistake. If the CC must have a team relocate one of the NINE sydney teams for christs sake.

 

[Front-Rower]

Melbourne should go. They bring nothing to the game (apart from a few replacable sponsors). They have won a premiership, made the finals every year they have been in the comp and no one in Melbourne could care less.

On to another point. The Sydney Swans. People say they were given time to get a supporter base etc. but that is not true. If you can be bothered to do some research and draw conclusions to that research you will find that in 1994 the Sydney Swans had a crowd average of 9, 184. Just one year later (and we all know what story broke in 1995) there crowd averages increased to 15,949.

In 1996 that crowd average grew by nine thousand people and in 1997 when the Rugby League was spilt in two it grew to 36 thousand.

Ever since then the highest crowd average has been 30 thousand and that was in 2003 and 2004.

It wasn't about building up supporters, it was the terrible doings of the split in the game. Poor old Melbourne just doesn't do nothing for the game and is only there because News ltd wants them there and Super League's greatest sponsors Telstra are supporting the News Ltd vision.

Just to add to the post. There is no question that I support the storm in terms of being a competitive outfit. However, it should be noted that they have entered a market which is tough and a market in which was not brought up on Rugby League.

The best ways to enter markets like this one is to play representatives matches there that involve AUSTRALIA. Why do you think union is semi-popular down there. They don't play Super 12 game featuring NSW v QLD, they play the national team because it gives the people a feeling that they are apart of that team because its an AUSTRALIAN team.

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/crowds/summary.html