Geographically, which teams in the NRL don't make sense?

[Perth Red]

share the solution?

Lets compare when the weather is as bad as it was on that night shall we? You'd be lucky to get 8k, we got over 15k to one of the worse rain storms ever and certainly the worse I have seen in my years in Perth. Still if your happy with Sharks crowds great, I am more than happy with the 15K die hard Rl fans that braved that weather to show their support for our NRL bid and the other 7K who paid alot of money for tickets.

R&B apologies wasn't knocking the fantastic effort of the Bears vollies. Just meant that we are the only independent supporters group, the Bears stuff is coming from the club but I appreciate is equally valuable and fan driven.


carachias lets leave it there, you have an opinion WA isn't the slightest bit interested in RL and not deserving of an NRL team, I have clearly provided evidence it is. You are entitled to your opinion and good luck to the Sharkies in climbing out of the hole your in. I've lost a club twice and it isn't nice!

 

[carcharias]

12 + k round 2 2011 flogging down with torrential sideways rain...on a monday night.

I am sure you and some others are keen to get a team.
I am not so sure the TV station will give a f**k...and that is what sponsors and the Nrl will look at.

 

[Goddo]

^ sigh. Go look at the TV rights thread. The only expansion locations that will value add to the TV rights negotiations are South East Queensland, Perth and New Zealand (Perth and NZ for timeslots rather than ratings/content driven like South East Queenland)

1. Pay TV will want a Perth team because of the 2 hour delay. It opens a "late" slot for live games into the East Coast. EG, 8:30pm live Saturday, Perth Reds vs Cronulla Sharks.

2. Go read about the Anti-Siphoning law changes. NRL games on Free to air will be broadcast nationally, on no later than a 2 hour delay - so Perth will get all free to air NRL games in the same timeslot as Sydney or earlier on a secondary channel.

3. If broadcasters are bound by federal law to show Rugby League, they will want local content to improve ratings.

 

[babyg]

^ sigh. Go look at the TV rights thread. The only expansion locations that will value add to the TV rights negotiations are South East Queensland, Perth and New Zealand (Perth and NZ for timeslots rather than ratings/content driven like South East Queenland)

1. Pay TV will want a Perth team because of the 2 hour delay. It opens a "late" slot for live games into the East Coast. EG, 8:30pm live Saturday, Perth Reds vs Cronulla Sharks.

2. Go read about the Anti-Siphoning law changes. NRL games on Free to air will be broadcast nationally, on no later than a 2 hour delay - so Perth will get all free to air NRL games in the same timeslot as Sydney or earlier on a secondary channel.

3. If broadcasters are bound by federal law to show Rugby League, they will want local content to improve ratings.

The biggest hurdle for expansion at the moment is player quality. When you look at teams in unviable areas and you can see why people are constantly calling for their heads. I think we need at least one merger or relocation.

 

[Perth Red]

The biggest hurdle for expansion at the moment is player quality. When you look at teams in unviable areas and you can see why people are constantly calling for their heads. I think we need at least one merger or relocation.

I think is has a lot more to do with skills and elite development pathways. isn't their something like 40,000 kids playing RL? Surely out of that many we can find 450 decent ones! If not then we need to make sure we have the $'s to go and raid the 200,000 junior RU players around the world and 20,000 UK RL players!

When you look at the RU talent that the GB RL team had in the 90's it makes you realise that there are heaps of top quality RU players that could make the switch and be stars. I think player quailty is a furphy that will be easily overcome with clubs having much bigger salary caps and the IC having much better Jnr development programs.

 

[Colk]

There are a few

 

[blue bags]

Merge Bears. Eagle's

 

[Bazal]

What is it with these bumps man?

All the teams outside NSW make no sense. Shit states.

I'll allow NZ

 

[Perth Red]

What is it with these bumps man?

All the teams outside NSW make no sense. Shit states.

I'll allow NZ

He has a histrionic personality complex! Look at me, look at me.

 

[RL The greatest game]

What is it with these bumps man?

All the teams outside NSW make no sense. Shit states.

I'll allow NZ

And bring in another team in Queensland in about 5 years

 

[Gary Gutful]

It's an ugly topic, but when you look at geographies and demographics, a number of NRL teams are poorly placed. These include:

Sharks - with the dragons entrenched in southern sydney and their partnership with Illawarra, it makes little sense to have a team in between

Dogs - again, with the dragons nearby, borders with the rabbits and within shooting distance of parramatta catchments, probably an example of poor placement

Rabbits/roosters/tigers - depending on where you agree they are based, they are very close too each other

Cowboys - not a large population and are strategically weak when it comes to rivalries and attracting away fans to games

I'm not suggesting that these clubs should be booted, but it's interesting when you consider some of the larger Australian geographies that are not covered (second Brisbane team and perth) by the NRL at the moment

Cheers,
Moffo

I agree. All of these clubs should be booted.

 

[Diesel]

Demerge the Dragons. St George can stay in Sydney & Sharks merge with Illawarra. Sorts out the Sharks in the middle of Dragons/Illawarra catchment and expands on the Sharks footprint.

 

[Bazal]

He has a histrionic personality complex! Look at me, look at me.

 

[MugaB]

What is it with these bumps man?

All the teams outside NSW make no sense. Shit states.

I'll allow NZ

What about QLD and ACT?
but Yeah seriously no more after that tho

Seems colk wants to have a discussion about doing an Andrew John's =also known as "the smartest man in the world" and trim down the comp, coz reasonz

 

[Bazal]

What about QLD and ACT?
but Yeah seriously no more after that tho

Seems colk wants to have a discussion about doing an Andrew John's =also known as "the smartest man in the world" and trim down the comp, coz reasonz

Ask yourself where Canberra juniors play for Origin and you will have your answer, my son.

QLD is a shit state that doesn't get rugba leeg

 

[MugaB]

Ask yourself where Canberra juniors play for Origin and you will have your answer, my son.

QLD is a shit state that doesn't get rugba leeg

But they're STILL Queenslanders

 

[bazza]

Demerge the Dragons. St George can stay in Sydney & Sharks merge with Illawarra. Sorts out the Sharks in the middle of Dragons/Illawarra catchment and expands on the Sharks footprint.

demerge Dragons and Tigers and put them into NRL2 with the Titans, Eels and Souths. Then find another 5 teams to add to that comp e.g. Perth, Central Coast, Brisbane 2, NZ2, Adelaide

 

[Pippen94]

It's an ugly topic, but when you look at geographies and demographics, a number of NRL teams are poorly placed. These include:

Sharks - with the dragons entrenched in southern sydney and their partnership with Illawarra, it makes little sense to have a team in between

Dogs - again, with the dragons nearby, borders with the rabbits and within shooting distance of parramatta catchments, probably an example of poor placement

Rabbits/roosters/tigers - depending on where you agree they are based, they are very close too each other

Cowboys - not a large population and are strategically weak when it comes to rivalries and attracting away fans to games

I'm not suggesting that these clubs should be booted, but it's interesting when you consider some of the larger Australian geographies that are not covered (second Brisbane team and perth) by the NRL at the moment

Cheers,
Moffo

Um..cowboys vs broncos.
AFL has about ten Melbourne teams within a few KMs of each other.

 

[MKCS]

Papua New Guinea if they still plan on going there is probably the one that would make the least sense. "Hey, lets start a team in a city with the same population as Wollongong which is a 4 hour flight away in a developing nation with no star player to market the code over there"

Maybe I'm ignorant and missing something on the PNG bid...

 

[MugaB]

Papua New Guinea if they still plan on going there is probably the one that would make the least sense. "Hey, lets start a team in a city with the same population as Wollongong which is a 4 hour flight away in a developing nation with no star player to market the code over there"

Maybe I'm ignorant and missing something on the PNG bid...

Nah your just ignorant