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Golden point extra time set to be scrapped for NRL finals and grand final

What method should decide fials and the GF?

  • Extra time of either five or 10 minutes each way followed by golden point if scores are still level

    Votes: 23 71.9%
  • Golden try

    Votes: 2 6.3%
  • NFL model

    Votes: 2 6.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 5 15.6%

  • Total voters
    32
  • Poll closed .

El Diablo

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...l-finals-and-grand-final-20160418-go95s0.html

Golden point extra time set to be scrapped for NRL finals and grand final

Date
April 18, 2016 - 8:30PM

Brad Walter
Sports Reporter

Golden point may be scrapped for this year's finals series and grand final, with the NRL Competition Committee to consider alternatives for deciding sudden-death matches – including adopting the NFL's overtime policy so a field goal doesn't immediately end the game.

While Johnathan Thurston's 83rd-minute field goal to win last year's grand final for North Queensland is considered an iconic moment in the game's history, there are many who believe it is not the way a premiership should be decided and a meeting of NRL coaches late last year agreed further discussion was needed about golden point in finals matches.

The NRL Competition Committee will meet next month for the first time since then and the main issue on the agenda is how finals and grand finals should be decided if the scores are tied at full-time.

Among the options to be discussed are:

extra time of either five or 10 minutes each way followed by golden point if the scores are still level;
golden try; and,
the NFL model in which the opposition is given an opportunity to respond if a team kicks a field goal in extra time.

The 2015 grand final was the first to go to extra time since the introduction of golden point for NRL matches in 2003 and Brisbane coach Wayne Bennett led criticism after his side's 21-20 loss by saying they did not deserve to lose to a field goal after Cowboys winger Kyle Feldt had scored in the 80th minute and Thurston converted from the sideline to level the scores.

Bennett, who has been an outspoken opponent of golden point since its introduction by former NRL chief executive David Gallop, was also critical of the concept after the Broncos turned the tables to beat North Queensland 21-20 via an Anthony Milford field goal in extra time of their round-four clash at Suncorp Stadium earlier this year.

According to Champion Data, there have been three other golden-point matches this season – Newcastle v Canberra in round three, Sydney Roosters v Warriors in round five and Wests Tigers v Melbourne in round seven.

An 82nd-minute try by Warriors fullback Roger Tuivasa-Sheck to secure a 24-20 win over the Roosters prompted calls for the introduction of golden try to decide all matches but there are no plans to change the golden-point rule for regular-season games.

However, the NRL Competition Committee will consider golden try for finals matches and grand finals, along with the model used in the NFL, which ensures both teams are given the opportunity to have the ball at least once in extra time unless the team that receives the kick-off scores a touchdown on their first possession.

In the NRL, that would mean a team getting a set of tackles to either win or keep the game alive if their opponent kicked a field goal.

The other option under consideration is to play out five or 10 minutes each way of extra time before going to golden point if the scores are still tied – as happened in the 1997 Super League Tri-Series final, which ended with Noel Goldthorpe kicking a 104th-minute field to claim victory for NSW over Queensland.

"There was support for alternatives to golden point in finals series matches and grand finals in the meeting of the NRL coaches last November," an NRL spokesman said. "The subject will be on the agenda in the Competition Committee meeting next month."

The Competition Committee comprises of NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg, ARLC chairman John Grant, referees boss Tony Archer, Sydney Roosters coach Trent Robinson, South Sydney mentor Michael Maguire, former Cronulla, Penrith and Rabbitohs coach John Lang, former Brisbane, Queensland and Australia captain Darren Lockyer, Kangaroos captain Cameron Smith, Jillaroos captain Steph Hancock, RLPA president Clint Newton and Greenberg's yet to be appointed replacement as NRL head of football.
 

no name

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What a great RL journo Brad Walter is, can't even research the score of last years GF.

As for the story, should go 5 each way extra time.
 

some11

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Regular season - draw after 80 minutes
Finals - 10 minutes extra time followed by scissors, paper, rock
 

Charlie124

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What a great RL journo Brad Walter is, can't even research the score of last years GF.

As for the story, should go 5 each way extra time.


"Wayne Bennett led criticism after his side's 21-20 loss by saying they did not deserve to lose to a field goal after Cowboys winger Kyle Feldt had scored in the 80th minute and Thurston converted from the sideline to level the scores."

Did this dickhead even watch the game?
 

lockyno1

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Thank goodness, it is such a pointless way to end a team's season. 10 minutes each way, then 10 minutes each way of GP if need be.

Alternatively adapt the NFL's way where a team can kick a FG, but the other team has the right to reply.
 
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And if no clear winner emerges from all of this, a two-man sack race will be held on consecutive Sundays until a champion can be crowned.
 

alien

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i'm happy with golden point. if you can win the game by a drop goal with 10 seconds to go, you should be able to in extra time too. i want the golden point rule in all nrl games, and also in state of origin, and test matches
 

bubs

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Win by 2 points.
2 Field Goals, penalty or try in extra time.
If only one team kicks a field goal, that would be a win AFTER regulation extra time.
 

applesauce

Bench
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The NFL rules are that each team has at least 1 possession before "golden point" not necessarily the right to reply. Also if a touchdown (or defensive safety) is scored during the first possession the game is over, essentially "golden try".

Applying the NFL rules to last years GF would not of changed the result. Hunt dropped the ball on our first set of six and would of initiated golden point anyway.

Journalists need to do some research.
 

POPEYE

Coach
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If golden point didn't exist as it shouldn't in regular season games the teams playing for the cup could be determined a little more fairly

If a winner can't be found after adding 10 minutes each way no-one deserves to go home the loser . . . after all, the finals series is hardly anything more than a f**king lottery anyway
 

Didgi

Moderator
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A field goal or penalty goal counts, but doesn't automatically end the game. A try ends the game.

"What if a team scores four field goals and then the other side gets an unconverted try? What then?" I hear you ask.

What a stupid question.
 

Timmah

LeagueUnlimited News Editor
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Why tinker with the on-field rules for a defined extra period?

Go back to 'proper' extra time for elimination/decider matches, no golden anything. Simples.
 

TiggaPlease

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In regular season games - Draw after 80.
Finals - 10 mins each way, If still tied after 20 mins add an extra 10 minutes until a winner is found.
 
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Why tinker with the on-field rules for a defined extra period?

Go back to 'proper' extra time for elimination/decider matches, no golden anything. Simples.

This is the correct answer ... Field goal shooting contests to decide games is shit
 

Bronco18

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It says something bad about the professionalism of the NRL just how bad so many halves are at kicking field goals...

Pressure situations blah blah blah, but it really should be a simple skill.
 

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