Greg Bird charged with violent attack

[Inferno]

Wonder if he'll try and get the AVO removed again.

 

[cityshark]

Clean up the boots Birdy.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

He won't be proven innocent. He may not be proven guilty.

He said he didnt do it, she said he didnt do it there are no witnesses to any crime & there is zero evidence. He will be innocent of all charges.

I think there might even be grounds for an apology from the police.

 

[gunnamatta bay]

yep.

his fault...he left me no other option.

those boogie board riders will never learn. any damage to the board? if so I would consider having him charged with malicious damage.

 

[Surely]

April, they know how to drag it out don't they.

 

[samshark]

As predicted.
Now what the cops are doing is going to drag it on & on dropping each charge as they go. Time heals all wounds & should prevent somebody from losing their job, unfortunately.
They will be all dropped &/or Bird will be proven innocent.

Ahh Reefy, you say things with such conviction it just makes us want to believe everything you say. I think its great.

However, in this case I think you might want to check your sources. No further charges will be dropped or added. The four charges proceeding are now clear and this will all be determined in a court of law in April. I expect that since the next date is not until April that the matter is now proceeding to hearing in the District Court for an allocated 3-4 day trial, however I will confirm this for you when I am next at work.

 

[millersnose]

reckless wounding, public mischief, and making false accusations

Who hasn't done one if not all of these?

well i havent put a glass in a womans face nor tried to pin such a crime on a mate


but hey

3000 posts here we come

woohooo

 

[spider]

so she still hasn't informed police of how she sustained the injuries

the tooth fairy came in and did it - FFS, what a load of crap

if he was so innocent and told the club the truth then he would be training now - but he is not

who gives a rats ass what can and cant be proved - fact is she sustained serious injury and only the two of them were in the room at the time

 

[gunnamatta bay]

4000 at least

 

[samshark]

He said he didnt do it, she said he didnt do it there are no witnesses to any crime & there is zero evidence. He will be innocent of all charges.

I think there might even be grounds for an apology from the police.

She has said that publicly only. Maybe if she said it in a statement/record of interview with police then things might be different. Its a circumstancial case no doubt but that still doesnt mean he is COMPLETELY innocent of eveything. We still have a girl with a fair injury with no version of how it happened and it will be now left up to the court to determine.

Whether you think its right or wrong a lot involved in domestic cases is trying to prevent future harm and arse covering. Given the circumstances at the time and being domestic related the police had little choice but to charge Bird and they can never be criticised for that and certainly dont owe anyone an apology.

In saying that however, I do agree that there were certain 'questionable' decisions made by the detectives in this whole matter. Bird should never have been charged with the GBH one straight up. An assault ABH would have been more appropriate with a review from there once things revealed themselves. I think the whole thing has definately been handled differently because it is one G. Bird and that is the thing that is wrong.

 

[samshark]

so she still hasn't informed police of how she sustained the injuries

the tooth fairy came in and did it - FFS, what a load of crap

if he was so innocent and told the club the truth then he would be training now - but he is not

who gives a rats ass what can and cant be proved - fact is she sustained serious injury and only the two of them were in the room at the time

Well said. Whether we agree with the handling of it all, at the end of the day these are the two definate facts and is why he was charged.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

so she still hasn't informed police of how she sustained the injuries

no she hasn't & under good legal advice that told her even innocent people can be made guilty of something, if there is enough enthusiasm to chase an individual/s.

if he was so innocent and told the club the truth then he would be training now - but he is not

unfortunately, he would not be training now, because he has made a statement that is truthful. Perhaps if you mean if he fabricated a better truth.?

who gives a rats ass what can and cant be proved - fact is she sustained serious injury and only the two of them were in the room at the time

& the 2 of them have sorted it out & abided by the law every step of the way. Nothing has been skewed or exhagerated. But the police version of events , well , there lies a story in itself.
How can 2 police stations only kilometres away come up with completely different charges for the same offence? We have a guy who glasses another bloke in a public place & is caught on CCTV in the act. There is a victim who has made a complaint. The assailant was in hiding. & yet we get an assault charge at worst. The same as every other glassing incident.
Then there is Birds case. An injury, with no victim, no complaint, no witnesses & we have GBH which has taken 14 weeks to drop. But wait, there's more. Simultaneously he was charged with GBH & Reckless wounding. is that even possible? Does a murderer get charged for assault as well as murder? Perhaps even dangerous driving on the way to the murder?
Talk about stitch ups.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Lets play fill in the gaps
17 witnesses for the prosecution

1 cop1
2 cops 2
3 detective 1
4 detective 2
5 Doctor 1
6 Nurse 1
7 Nurse 2
8 disgruntled neighbour 1
9 disgruntled neighbour 2
10 Birds roomy
11 Vodafone technician 1
12 Police comms specialist 1
13 Sticky
14 Zapps
15
16
17

Defence 6

1 Milligan
2 Doctors in Private hospital
3 Psycholigist
4 other non disgruntled neighbour 1
5 other non disgruntled neighbour 2
6 Publican

 

[samshark]

NRL star set for three-day hearing over alleged glassing of girlfriend

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,24681225-23209,00.html
November 20, 2008
NRL star Greg Bird faces a three-day hearing in April next year over an alleged assault on his girlfriend which left her with a fractured eye socket.
Bird, 24, allegedly glassed Kate Milligan in the face at his Cronulla apartment in August.

The Kangaroos, NSW Origin and Cronulla five-eighth was charged with maliciously inflicting grievous bodily harm.

The charge was downgraded to reckless wounding in Sydney's Downing Centre Local Court on Thursday, before Magistrate Jane Culver.

The rugby league international also faces other charges including assault occasioning actual bodily harm, and two charges of lying to police.

Police allege Bird attempted to deceive them when he claimed his flat-mate, Brent Watson, was responsible for his American girlfriend's injuries.

As he left court on Thursday, Bird told a journalist “don't touch me'' when her microphone brushed against his shoulder.

When asked if he had enjoyed a recent trip to the United States, where Milligan hails from, he replied: “Had a ball mate.''

An apprehended violence order against Bird which prevents him from contacting Ms Milligan, 24, is still in place.

A three-day hearing into the matter is set to start on April 27 in the Downing Centre Local Court.

The prosecution says it will call 17 witnesses in the case, while the defence will call six.

A separate case of common assault against Bird was also heard on Thursday at Sutherland Local Court.

He was excused from attending and the matter was adjourned for a hearing on March 13 next year at the same location.

His career is in limbo pending the outcome of his legal woes.

He is still contracted to the Cronulla Sharks NRL club, but was stood down from playing after the alleged assault on his girlfriend.

Bird missed the NRL final series and also the current World Cup, which concludes on Saturday night with the Kangaroos playing New Zealand in the final.

He was Australia's five-eighth in the Kangaroos' last Test before the World Cup, the Centenary Test match against New Zealand in May.
AAP


So there you have it, a three day hearing at the Downing Centre. So it will be before a magistrate and not a jury. Thats probably worse for Bird.

 

[samshark]

Lets play fill in the gaps
17 witnesses for the prosecution

1 cop1
2 cops 2
3 detective 1
4 detective 2
5 Doctor 1
6 Nurse 1
7 Nurse 2
8 disgruntled neighbour 1
9 disgruntled neighbour 2
10 Birds roomy
11 Vodafone technician 1
12 Police comms specialist 1
13 Sticky
14 Zapps
15
16
17

Defence 6

1 Milligan
2 Doctors in Private hospital
3 Psycholigist
4 other non disgruntled neighbour 1
5 other non disgruntled neighbour 2
6 Publican

Take off Sticky, Zapps, the comms specialist, and maybe the phone techie. You can normally produce the records without the person being there. Add about four more police plus crime scene and you are just about right.

 

[Special K]

bring back the birdy man!!

ffs

 

[Dave Q]

no she hasn't & under good legal advice that told her even innocent people can be made guilty of something, if there is enough enthusiasm to chase an individual/s.

unfortunately, he would not be training now, because he has made a statement that is truthful. Perhaps if you mean if he fabricated a better truth.?




& the 2 of them have sorted it out & abided by the law every step of the way. Nothing has been skewed or exhagerated. But the police version of events , well , there lies a story in itself.
How can 2 police stations only kilometres away come up with completely different charges for the same offence? We have a guy who glasses another bloke in a public place & is caught on CCTV in the act. There is a victim who has made a complaint. The assailant was in hiding. & yet we get an assault charge at worst. The same as every other glassing incident.
Then there is Birds case. An injury, with no victim, no complaint, no witnesses & we have GBH which has taken 14 weeks to drop. But wait, there's more. Simultaneously he was charged with GBH & Reckless wounding. is that even possible? Does a murderer get charged for assault as well as murder? Perhaps even dangerous driving on the way to the murder?
Talk about stitch ups.

Nice expression, take a bow.

 

[shark_fin_soup]

I hope birdy doesn't come back. Dead set tosser. Only two people in the room and one comes out with a smashed face. I wonder who did it?

 

[DJDL]

I hope birdy doesn't come back. Dead set tosser. Only two people in the room and one comes out with a smashed face. I wonder who did it?

I don't think there's any question that he did it. What we all want to know is the manner in which the injury was sustained.

There is an enormous difference between smashing a glass into someone's face and hurling a glass at a wall only for the broken pieces to rebound and hit someone in the face.

"Reckless wounding" sounds a lot more like the latter to me.

 

[spider]

no she hasn't & under good legal advice that told her even innocent people can be made guilty of something, if there is enough enthusiasm to chase an individual/s.

so why has she not come forward - pretty obvious....

unfortunately, he would not be training now, because he has made a statement that is truthful. Perhaps if you mean if he fabricated a better truth.?

yes - if he f**king lied, and all know it, including the coach and CEO

& the 2 of them have sorted it out & abided by the law every step of the way. Nothing has been skewed or exhagerated. But the police version of events , well , there lies a story in itself.
How can 2 police stations only kilometres away come up with completely different charges for the same offence? We have a guy who glasses another bloke in a public place & is caught on CCTV in the act. There is a victim who has made a complaint. The assailant was in hiding. & yet we get an assault charge at worst. The same as every other glassing incident.
Then there is Birds case. An injury, with no victim, no complaint, no witnesses & we have GBH which has taken 14 weeks to drop. But wait, there's more. Simultaneously he was charged with GBH & Reckless wounding. is that even possible? Does a murderer get charged for assault as well as murder? Perhaps even dangerous driving on the way to the murder?
Talk about stitch ups.

mega sticth up - how the f**k did she sustain the inuries she did????

come on - how did she do it to herself????

thats all the judge will want to know....

...it wasn't me your honour - it was the third man....lol