Greg Inglis announces retirement from rugby league

[Liddell]

Remember when Gasnier had a heavily back ended contract and retired before it kicked in and Dragons didn’t have to worry about it?

 

[BranVan3000]

Yes. Manly had to pay for Matai and Stewart in seasons where they didn't step on the field. Why not Souffs?

Which was as dumb then as it is now

The salary cap is purely a mechanism to ensure one team doesn’t field a significantly better team than the other based on market values as the objective marker.

It is not for ensuring legal contractual obligations are met.

It’s not for monitoring the holistic financial operations of a football business (outside the on field team)

If a player is retired and there is no plan for him to play again and includes a full season there is no reason to not allow that cap space to be filled (my outlook is GI should be counted in the cap this year having played, but not next year)

You’re defending dumb decisions for a gotcha moment. You should be looking for the common sense solution that will create a better precedent for all teams, because there is always the chance your team ends up in the same position at some point.

 

[Game_Breaker]

A train of prime Haynes would come close.

Would get smashed in the forwards

A team of Meningas would be hard to beat
Or Imagine 13 taumalolos on the field

 

[BranVan3000]

Remember when Gasnier had a heavily back ended contract and retired before it kicked in and Dragons didn’t have to worry about it?

Where he signed on minimum wage In 2010 and then the cap auditors invented the concept of “notional value” for Greg Inglis for the 2011 off season when Souths signed him (but not when he was going to Broncos)

A concept that was never used again until Sam Burgess came back to League

Everyone has been boned by the cap in some way. If we all went whingeing about the unfair applications to our club we’d be here forever

 

[Pommy]

Is the cap unfair for this instance of perceived preference to Souths? Or is the cap unfair because it could potentially push a man with a broken body and mind to keep on going until they can’t go on and end up taking their own life?
I can understand why people think this stinks but this should be the standard for everyone because the alternative has the potential to be deadly.

 

[Tiger5150]

These are businesses that run on lean profit margins. Why would any club intentionally sign a long term deal with the intention of it never being fulfilled and then having their bottom line scraped for all the following years?

Because if Souths get away with this then it is a proven way to tie up a mature high value player for more money than other teams can offer without it going on the cap.

 

[captain kaos]

inglis missed the boat by about 5 years. he could have played nfl as he suits the amount of effort required. 15 minutes of play that takes 3 hours. with that much workload inglis would have revelled in it.

 

[Perth Red]

If a player is no longer playing then it shouldn't be on the cap, pretty simple to administer I would have thought?

 

[Walt Flanigan]

inglis missed the boat by about 5 years.

Pun intended?

 

[captain kaos]

Pun intended?

forgot to put speed before the boat.

 

[Mr Spock!]

So what the NRL should have done is said the proportionate amount outstanding on the contract was exempted under the cap (i.e. if it was a $1.5mill over 3 year contract, exclude $500k per year) meaning if the last year was worth $700k then $200k would still count. But they counted the entire amount. If the NRL had worked with Manly to produce a fair outcome (i.e. reasonable exclusions from the cap but nothing that would give Manly an unfair advantage) then you might have an argument but you're just talking shit to support your own agenda driven argument.

Stewart and Matai had heavily backended deals, were paid out their full contracts, and didn't have new injuries.

Nothing remotely similar.

 

[Mr Spock!]

The risk you take when you throw big money for long contracts

It’s probably what got Souths the player in the first place.

Nope.

The player isn't fulfilling his contract. And doesn't want a payout.

Watmough and Snowden are other examples.

 

[Mr Spock!]

Yes. Manly had to pay for Matai and Stewart in seasons where they didn't step on the field. Why not Souffs?

Ffs how many times do people want to cry about the Manly duo who were paid out their full contracts, had heavy backended deals and didn't have new injuries?

Nothing alike.

 

[Mr Spock!]

Show me where I have mentioned Watmough once?

Watmough was medically retired and paid out by insurance. Of course that doesn’t go on the cap. Greg is fine and retiring cause he’s fat. They are totally diffferent.

Are you intentionally trying to look stupid?

You're doing a pretty good job of being stupid.

Inglis isn't fine at all.

Bennett has said he has the same shoulder condition which forced Reed into retirement.

Watmough and Snowden were retired and their contracts weren't counted towards the cap.

Which is the point that you can't grasp because of your hatred for Souths.

 

[Mr Spock!]

"This is no retirement due to mental illness or injuries or anything," he said.

"I just think it is time and the right decision for myself and I have been contemplating it for a while now." - Greg Inglis @ retirement announcement.

Yeah nothing wrong with him..

"
Bennett has been in regular contact with Inglis - who will miss his third straight match - since giving him this week off to assess his long-term future.

He confirmed the 32-year-old struggles with arthritis in his left shoulder and can’t lift it above his head or away from his body.

He also likened it to former Brisbane centre Jack Reed, who was forced into retirement three years ago due to a similar issue.

“It flares up and it goes from bad to good to worse. (It’s) unpredictable, all over the shop with it,” Bennett said of Inglis’ shoulder problems."

 

[AlwaysGreen]

 

[Pommy]

Because if Souths get away with this then it is a proven way to tie up a mature high value player for more money than other teams can offer without it going on the cap.

Unless the player doesn’t go in retirement walking away from his deal. It’s worth noting GI is still down almost a million in the next 18 months on this deal.

 

[Mr Spock!]

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Facts don't care about your feelings.

 

[Mr Spock!]

Look out. What happened with Kade Snowden.

Oh yeah his contract was cap exempt too.

Snowden, who is under contract to the Knights until the end of next season, has not played due to chronic neck and back injuries since being replaced after a 28 minute stint for the Knights against the Gold Coast back in round one this year.

Specialists have since advised him not to play again.

The Knights submitted independent doctors’ reports to the NRL three months ago in their application to have him medically retired with The Daily Telegraph told it could be officially signed off by the end of this week.

Snowden’s medical retirement will mean the bulk of his contract for this season and 2017 will be salary cap-exempt.

As a result, it will free up more than $700,000 in cap space for next season in a major boost for the NRL cellar-dwellers.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pe...e-nrl-ng-fd81c455a54df294b507e8586ad760b9.amp

 

[Surely]

Weren't the tigers penalised for not including Farah's ambassadorship in the cap even though it didn't eventuate ?