Greg Inglis announces retirement from rugby league

[Vic Mackey]

You're doing a pretty good job of being stupid.

Inglis isn't fine at all.

Bennett has said he has the same shoulder condition which forced Reed into retirement.

Watmough and Snowden were retired and their contracts weren't counted towards the cap.

Which is the point that you can't grasp because of your hatred for Souths.

That’s all well and good, except for the tiny fact that INGLIS HASNT BEEN MEDICALLY RETIRED

 

[Galeforce]

He can get paid all he wants, it has to go on the cap. He isn’t forgoing a cent, he will still get paid his contract in full, however it will be spread out Over years through some dodgy job that doesn’t exist.

He can still have a job at Souths for the next 18 months, however he should be paid his playing contract and it goes onto the cap. After the 18 months he can get a job for life that doesn’t go on the cap.

Do you not understand how easy this is to Rort? What is stopping a club offering say Adam Reynolds a 12 year $10mil contract ? Then after 8 he retires, runs water for the next few years on $200k a year. Once his contract expires he gets some admin role on $1mil a year.

First there is NO suggestion that Souths staggered or backended his contract in the first place. This is a first important consideration for "sorting " discussions.

Both GI yearly contract and the contract period to end of 2020 were reasonable contracts given his standing and influence on the field.He was named QLD and Australian captain over 12 months after latest contract.

Above unlike the scenarios with Manly and Tigers situations that have been raised.where there appeared distortion of payments over time to cover salary cap.

Second , I think it is fair that whatever Souths are paying GI in 2019/2020 for other roles , should be considered for inclusion in his cap.This is up to NRL to decide and should be fair/similar for all clubs going forward.

However ridiculous to state that anything Souths pay him for roles for future years should be considered as part of his Souths cap for 2019/2020. This forces Souths to not give GI a role in future years.

Third , Souths are not making insurance claim to cover GI injuries and not making any lump sum contract payouts to GI. GI retires , contract payment stops, GI starts new roles and new payments start. Souths/ GI have handled this in a way which supports GI unfulfilled and unpaid contract money to be excluded for Souths 2019/2020 cap. Up to NRL to ratify , however Souths / GI have to be commended for their approach.

 

[adamkungl]

If a player is no longer playing then it shouldn't be on the cap, pretty simple to administer I would have thought?

More specifically, if he is no longer being paid a salary under an NRL playing contract.

What he does the day after he retires is 100% f**kin irrelevant. Souths can pay him $10billion to ride around the harbour in a red and green speedboat, and it doesn't matter, UNLESS there is proof that Souths offered him such a job as part of his NRL playing contract.

Whispered wink-wink nudge-nudge promises are irrelevant. No one can prove it, no one can police it, it's not written anywhere and it provides no security to either the club or the player so isn't worth the air it takes to speak it.

Did Souths tell Inglis he'd have a job after retirement? Probably.
Is it a contracted offer? No. So for all intents and purposes it never happened.
Does it matter? No. Perk of being a club and NRL legend.

 

[Galeforce]

Greg Inglis was already being overshadowed by Latrell Mitchell even before Greg retired.

Latrell Mitchell is one of the greatest centres who ever lived.

Agree , Mitchell in 2019/2020 overshadowed GI overall , however chalk and cheese when you compare GI in his prime to Mitchell so far.

Mitchell remains in GI's shadow at his best ( like Roosters and Souths 21)

 

[Galeforce]

The risk you take when you throw big money for long contracts

It’s probably what got Souths the player in the first place.

That is the risk for some desperate clubs .........you can name them and some of the players have been identified here already.

However there is NO discussion that Souths offered unreasonable annual contract money or contract period to GI in the first place. This is the first KEY test of rorting discussions.

 

[Vic Mackey]

First there is NO suggestion that Souths staggered or backended his contract in the first place. This is a first important consideration for "sorting " discussions.

Both GI yearly contract and the contract period to end of 2020 were reasonable contracts given his standing and influence on the field.He was named QLD and Australian captain over 12 months after latest contract.

Above unlike the scenarios with Manly and Tigers situations that have been raised.where there appeared distortion of payments over time to cover salary cap.

Second , I think it is fair that whatever Souths are paying GI in 2019/2020 for other roles , should be considered for inclusion in his cap.This is up to NRL to decide and should be fair/similar for all clubs going forward.

However ridiculous to state that anything Souths pay him for roles for future years should be considered as part of his Souths cap for 2019/2020. This forces Souths to not give GI a role in future years.

Third , Souths are not making insurance claim to cover GI injuries and not making any lump sum contract payouts to GI. GI retires , contract payment stops, GI starts new roles and new payments start. Souths/ GI have handled this in a way which supports GI unfulfilled and unpaid contract money to be excluded for Souths 2019/2020 cap. Up to NRL to ratify , however Souths / GI have to be commended for their approach.

I understand you’re arguement, and it’s nice to have someone actually put a proper one forward as opposed to most of those ones on here which are basically saying ‘GI rules, you guys are just salty’ etc, however I disagree. The reasons for this I’ve stated more then once in this thread.

Players get off field jobs once they retire all the time, however it’s after their contracts have expired.

I have said I have no issue with GI getting paid whatever Souths want after 2021.

 

[BranVan3000]

GIs payments can move into the football department salary cap - did they end up introducing that?

 

[Mr Spock!]

That’s all well and good, except for the tiny fact that INGLIS HASNT BEEN MEDICALLY RETIRED

Nope not medical but he's walked away from his contract. He is no longer registered as an nrl player with South Sydney.

Do other clubs pay players who refuse to play and have that money on their cap

Eg if a player pisses off to Union midway through a contract....so that money stays on the clubs cap?

 

[Vic Mackey]

Nope not medical but he's walked away from his contract. He is no longer registered as an nrl player with South Sydney.

Do other clubs pay players who refuse to play and have that money on their cap

Eg if a player pisses off to Union midway through a contract....so that money stays on the clubs cap?

Mate seriously, you couldn’t be using worse examples. You are talking about a player being released to go to a rival, they will now have a new employer. GI will have the same employer.

 

[Mr Spock!]

I understand you’re arguement, and it’s nice to have someone actually put a proper one forward as opposed to most of those ones on here which are basically saying ‘GI rules, you guys are just salty’ etc, however I disagree. The reasons for this I’ve stated more then once in this thread.

Players get off field jobs once they retire all the time, however it’s after their contracts have expired.

I have said I have no issue with GI getting paid whatever Souths want after 2021.

GI terminated his own contract.

He's no longer an nrl registered player.

So if the Storm offered him a development job that should go on Souths cap hey?

Or if collingdon offered him a coaching gig that should be on Souths cap?

Good to see you're changing your arguments.

 

[Mr Spock!]

Mate seriously, you couldn’t be using worse examples. You are talking about a player being released to go to a rival, they will now have a new employer. GI will have the same employer.

I'm talking about players not honouring their contract.

Same thing.

If a west's player up and left and refused to play with 3 years on his contract and said f##k you I've had enough, youd want that on your clubs cap.

 

[Mr Spock!]

Lol luke Brooks retires mid season and gets a gig coaching Souths.

According to Vic, Brooks contract should be included in the west's cap.

 

[Vic Mackey]

I'm talking about players not honouring their contract.

Same thing.

If a west's player up and left and refused to play with 3 years on his contract and said f##k you I've had enough, youd want that on your clubs cap.

If he then got a job at the club then yes it should be.

If GI went and got a job elsewhere and wasn’t being paid by Souths at all there would be no issue

 

[Vic Mackey]

Lol luke Brooks retires mid season and gets a gig coaching Souths.

According to Vic, Brooks contract should be included in the west's cap.

You couldn’t be anymore stupid

 

[Mr Spock!]

If he then got a job at the club then yes it should be.

If GI went and got a job elsewhere and wasn’t being paid by Souths at all there would be no issue

LOL so it's about where he goes.

Once they've retired they can do what they want mate.

 

[Mr Spock!]

You couldn’t be anymore stupid

LOL well not as stupid as someone who wants players salary in their caps who are no longer playing or getting paid.

 

[Vic Mackey]

LOL so it's about where he goes.

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Yes, that’s been my point the entire time. I’m glad it only took you about 12 posts to get it.

 

[Tiger5150]

Weren't the tigers penalised for not including Farah's ambassadorship in the cap even though it didn't eventuate ?

And the Tigers paid Farah every cent of his contract, under their cap, and when the Tigers offered him the job, he was playing for another club

 

[T.S Quint]

I remember in an Origin game quite a few years ago Inglis treated Steve Turner like a small child, shoving him to the ground then hurdling over him on his way to setting up a long range try.

Even as a NSW fan I could watch that over and over again it was so hilarious.

He’s a f**kwit who bashed his girlfriend and speeds while drink driving though, so hard to be a fan of him as a person.

 

[Tiger5150]

Unless the player doesn’t go in retirement walking away from his deal. It’s worth noting GI is still down almost a million in the next 18 months on this deal.

You seem pretty sensible Pommy (for a Souffs fan). You seriously think Inglis is foregoing over $1M?