Greg Inglis announces retirement from rugby league

[Perth Red]

You’ve got a dud player on big bucks so instead of settling for 14 games a year out of him you retire him and sign someone better.

They used to have to hope another club would take them and foot half the salary for the remainder of the contract.

No problem with that. For me if a club wanted to pay out a player contract early they should be able to do so and it should come off the cap as soon as the player stops playing for them.

 

[Perth Red]

Daily Telegraph rugby league writer Phil Rothfield said Inglis had been able to retire because he’d been offered work by South Sydney and the NRL.

He was only able to retire because Souths offered him a job, a good job, said to be $300,000 a season,“He was only able to retire because Souths offered him a job, a good job, said to be $300,000 a season,” he said on Fox League’s NRL 360.

The NRL are talking about topping that up and why wouldn’t they? He’s a great ambassador. I don’t care that he’s getting that money.

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/allowed-fury-greg-inglis-retirement-loophole-235910035.html

Phil Rothfield? "Said to be"? Sounds very legit investigative journalism lol

 

[Chimp]

How does it? He wont be on the field. How can it influence the competition? I don't get why people feel it has given Souths some kind of unfair advantage?

Take Inglis and Souths out of the equation, and let's assume all is above board in this case. The issue is that other clubs have previously had players retire and their salary counted on the cap (granted they my have been back ended) still. One of the arguments is that he's given up his playing salary whilst the other didn't, but that doesn't wash as he's still getting paid - again people will argue that he's getting paid less, but nobody can audit that, he could be getting the rest of his contract from a third party.

Anyway, the issue is that other clubs can and will use this as a loophole to gain an advantage. Let's say a 32 year old star player comes off contract, 1 club offers 2 years at market value of $500k per year, another club could offer 5 years at $300k with a nod and a wink that after 2 years they'll retire them and pay the rest out through a 'job's with a 3rd party. Someone earlier mentioned they're fine with that as both club and player have to 'risk' that the other party hold up their end of the agreement, but that can easily be sorted with a separate hidden contract that is signed at the time and has nothing to do with the NRL.
The problem is that the whole thing is not auditable and opens up just another avenue to circumvent the cap. The Storm and Hasler are already drafting up the contracts I'm sure....

 

[Bazal]

Take Inglis and Souths out of the equation, and let's assume all is above board in this case. The issue is that other clubs have previously had players retire and their salary counted on the cap (granted they my have been back ended) still. One of the arguments is that he's given up his playing salary whilst the other didn't, but that doesn't wash as he's still getting paid - again people will argue that he's getting paid less, but nobody can audit that, he could be getting the rest of his contract from a third party.

Anyway, the issue is that other clubs can and will use this as a loophole to gain an advantage. Let's say a 32 year old star player comes off contract, 1 club offers 2 years at market value of $500k per year, another club could offer 5 years at $300k with a nod and a wink that after 2 years they'll retire them and pay the rest out through a 'job's with a 3rd party. Someone earlier mentioned they're fine with that as both club and player have to 'risk' that the other party hold up their end of the agreement, but that can easily be sorted with a separate hidden contract that is signed at the time and has nothing to do with the NRL.
The problem is that the whole thing is not auditable and opens up just another avenue to circumvent the cap. The Storm and Hasler are already drafting up the contracts I'm sure....

People are acting like this has never happened before...lol

 

[Pommy]

Daily Telegraph rugby league writer Phil Rothfield said Inglis had been able to retire because he’d been offered work by South Sydney and the NRL.

He was only able to retire because Souths offered him a job, a good job, said to be $300,000 a season,“He was only able to retire because Souths offered him a job, a good job, said to be $300,000 a season,” he said on Fox League’s NRL 360.

The NRL are talking about topping that up and why wouldn’t they? He’s a great ambassador. I don’t care that he’s getting that money.

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/allowed-fury-greg-inglis-retirement-loophole-235910035.html

So how does $450k over the next 18 months equate to him not losing a cent compared to the $1.5m he was due?

 

[Mr Spock!]

Take Inglis and Souths out of the equation, and let's assume all is above board in this case. The issue is that other clubs have previously had players retire and their salary counted on the cap (granted they my have been back ended) still. One of the arguments is that he's given up his playing salary whilst the other didn't, but that doesn't wash as he's still getting paid - again people will argue that he's getting paid less, but nobody can audit that, he could be getting the rest of his contract from a third party.

Anyway, the issue is that other clubs can and will use this as a loophole to gain an advantage. Let's say a 32 year old star player comes off contract, 1 club offers 2 years at market value of $500k per year, another club could offer 5 years at $300k with a nod and a wink that after 2 years they'll retire them and pay the rest out through a 'job's with a 3rd party. Someone earlier mentioned they're fine with that as both club and player have to 'risk' that the other party hold up their end of the agreement, but that can easily be sorted with a separate hidden contract that is signed at the time and has nothing to do with the NRL.
The problem is that the whole thing is not auditable and opens up just another avenue to circumvent the cap. The Storm and Hasler are already drafting up the contracts I'm sure....

He's not getting paid as an nrl player ffs.

As serial rabbits hater Vic said he'd have no issue with him getting paid to coach the tigers.

If you think players don't have jobs lined up for them when they retire then you are incredibly naive.

 

[Chimp]

He's not getting paid as an nrl player ffs.

As serial rabbits hater Vic said he'd have no issue with him getting paid to coach the tigers.

If you think players don't have jobs lined up for them when they retire then you are incredibly naive.

That's not the point - the point is that it opens up another avenue to legally circumnavigate the cap.

 

[Mr Spock!]

That's not the point - the point is that it opens up another avenue to legally circumnavigate the cap.

By not playing the player.

Yeah good point

 

[Perth Red]

That's not the point - the point is that it opens up another avenue to legally circumnavigate the cap.

It wouldn't be NRL legal, anymore than the Farah situation was. If you did this in a premeditated fashion to attract a player to a short term signing for a long term payment, you are A) stupid and B) going to get into trouble if you are found out. I cant imagine any club is rich enough or desperate enough to pay an end of career player for 5 years and only get 2 years of playing productivity out of him! It has no impact on cap, only on improved ability to sign end of career players!

 

[Surely]

He's not getting paid as an nrl player ffs.

As serial rabbits hater Vic said he'd have no issue with him getting paid to coach the tigers.

If you think players don't have jobs lined up for them when they retire then you are incredibly naive.

A job at the tigers is at arms length

South's it's not

 

[AnonymousLurker]

I'm sure the dogs would love to "retire" Foran who is more busted than Inglis , pay him 300k per year working for them and have the NRL top it up and not have his salary count in the cap

I don't see how any one can argue that the NRL is not yet again bending the rules for select clubs

 

[AnonymousLurker]

You need to realise that your basic argument is that because the NRL made the wrong call with Stewart and Matai, they should continue to make that wrong call for other clubs.

I would say it's due to everyone being sick of the same select clubs that rules don't apply

Perfect example you realise the eels weren't actually over the cap the year they got busted , but still lost points and the nines comp , they were only over the cap ONCE investigation was complete and they added previous indiscretions on the eels cap for 2016. However the sharks who were supposedly over the cap years either side of winning the Comp(But not during that year lol) lost no trophy , or even no points lost this season

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

A job at the tigers is at arms length

South's it's not

Exactly.. It is not a 'real' job by any stretch of the imagination. If it were a 'real' job, someone would either be currently performing the role, or it would be advertised and candidates would be interviewed for the position. The question you would ask is, would the position have been created now if GI had not retired.

$300K jobs don't just suddenly appear out of nowhere. That is serious money outside the sporting arena and would require someone of the very highest calibre to perform the position. What are Greg Inglis's skills to perform the position, other than being a great footballer. He isn't much of a communicator from what I have seen, so I struggle to understand how you could justify paying him so much for a role which didn't exist and wouldn't have existed, had he not retired.

 

[Pommy]

A job at the tigers is at arms length

South's it's not

So now you disproved your own claim you’re just moving on to whinging in general?

 

[Surely]

So now you disproved your own claim you’re just moving on to whinging in general?

How did I disprove my claim ?

The tigers have nothing to gain by giving Inglis a job, South's do.

Sign someone you don't want taking up cap space anymore, just give them a token job for 5 years.

No need to try move them on to another club where you'd still lose half their salary off the cap.

 

[soc123_au]

Some of the comments in here from Souffs supporters are borderline delusional. Surprisingly @Galeforce is coming across as pretty fair minded, but others are off their chops.

What in the actual f**k could GI do worth 300k a year? A 5 year old could see that the job offer is an incentive to get him off the cap for next 18 months. Sure, he wont be playing, but the fat heap that returned this year is a liability at 200k on the cap, let alone the contract value. Plenty of clubs have signed players on huge contracts and the players for various reasons have turned to shit, they never had the luxury that is about to be afforded to souths, Campese at Canberra is a classic example, he was pretty much a non entity for a 5 year deal after an injury that wasnt "retirement" worthy, but he was a shadow of the player that signed on the dotted line. There are plenty of other similar examples. Why is this any different?

With a proposed 5.7 mill cap for the football dept coming in it gives an insight to what the jobs within a club outside the playing roster are worth. What positions could have a market value of a 300k salary?
Coach obviously, but what else that doesnt require a formal qualification?

I guess being an ex highly trained athlete he could look after the diet and nutrition for the team. Probably 75k

Life Coach, I see this as more on a consultancy type role so 25k at best

Team logistics, travel arrangement etc for the team and support staff, could be a full time gig when you consider all the travel needed across an entire team. 100k

Statistician, helping Wayne keep up to speed with all the numbers would be a massive help 40k

Motivational Speaker, they seem to be in demand so that can make up the other 60k

That should keep GI pretty busy and in a legitimate role that isnt a wrought to get a has been off the books.

Interstate games might be problem in inclement weather, not that it will matter as the players will be too fat to fly anyway. That's assuming they havent been locked up for domestic violence or DUI beforehand. If they manage to make the field watching them kick field goals when behind should be a real treat.

 

[Pedge1971]

Nope he's foresaking 1.5 million from the rest of his contract.

He could have just sat out for 18 months and claimed his money.

So if JT still has a role at the cowboys it should be counted in their cap?

No. He finished his contract and retired. Completely different circumstances. His and Smiths testamonials though.....

 

[The Rosco]

Exactly.. It is not a 'real' job by any stretch of the imagination. If it were a 'real' job, someone would either be currently performing the role, or it would be advertised and candidates would be interviewed for the position. The question you would ask is, would the position have been created now if GI had not retired.

$300K jobs don't just suddenly appear out of nowhere. That is serious money outside the sporting arena and would require someone of the very highest calibre to perform the position. What are Greg Inglis's skills to perform the position, other than being a great footballer. He isn't much of a communicator from what I have seen, so I struggle to understand how you could justify paying him so much for a role which didn't exist and wouldn't have existed, had he not retired.

I'll have you know that the great G I has a skill set that includes drinking, driving AND speeding. Oh yeah . . . let's not forget DV
Pfft . . . "what are his skills ?"

 

[Pommy]

How did I disprove my claim ?

The tigers have nothing to gain by giving Inglis a job, South's do.

Sign someone you don't want taking up cap space anymore, just give them a token job for 5 years.

No need to try move them on to another club where you'd still lose half their salary off the cap.

I don’t know how the tigers have come in to you claiming he won’t lose a cent.

 

[Pedge1971]

Greg Inglis was already being overshadowed by Latrell Mitchell even before Greg retired.

Latrell Mitchell is one of the greatest centres who ever lived.

Will be funny when Souffs use Inglis' cap money to poach Latrell.