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Greg Inglis headed to South Sydney - no players to be shed

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StormChaser

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Champion was the better of the two this year

True that. What about loyalty to a local junior who actually loves the club and wants to stay there? He's being shafted for the blow in who's only using the joint to avoid having to play OS.

Seems GI picked the right club after all, he'll fit right in.
 

adamkungl

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mate, it has nothing to do with who is better. it's about morals. punting a loyal servant of your club who gives 110% every match and is willing to bleed for the club to bring in an overhyped slug is pure folly. Champion is devoted to your club, GI cares only for the money.

look at what happened at Easts. Harrison wasn't the best player, but he was one of the workhorses in our pack who always gave his all, and we let him go to get Mason. It ended up with us getting the spoon. We've seen the error of our ways, and now our recruitment isn't focussed on the GIs of the comp.

But if you want to be known as the Transit Lounge then that's cool. I can't wait for you to sign the 2010 equivalent of Fatty Vautin

I said it weeks ago. Souffs have been bagging Easts, sometimes fairly, often unjustly, for playing 'chequebook Rugby League' and being a trasnit lounge for years. They are very quickly becoming everything they have claimed to hate and blindly applauding every step of the way. A club of hypocrites. This proves what we all already knew - their years of sooking were borne purely out of jealousy.
 

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Who approached the sponsors?
IF the Inglis 3rd party deals were against the rules then the rules need to be changed. It is beyond ridiculous that a cash strapped league is knocking back money from sponsors. It's like offering to buy a homeless man lunch and him giving you the middle finger for it.
 

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IF the Inglis 3rd party deals were against the rules then the rules need to be changed. It is beyond ridiculous that a cash strapped league is knocking back money from sponsors. It's like offering to buy a homeless man lunch and him giving you the middle finger for it.


They aren't f**king knocking back 3rd party sponsors moron, they're just not allowing 3rd party deals as inducements to lure and coerce players to clubs before the contract is signed. Is that so hard to comprehend?

If it were legal then you'd get the likes of Crowe for example using his obvious clout with wealthy business' and individuals luring every high profile player off contract signing them up for f**k all under the cap and topping them up with thousands in 3rd party deals. The FACT is Ingli$ was lured over to your rabble with illegal deals hence the deal was blocked and rightly so. If they had've played by the rules and negotiated the deals after he signed it wouldn't be an issue but that didn't happen so get the f**k over it.
 

The 18th Man

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Can't say I am surprised by the recent news on the "deal". Disappointed, but not surprised unfortunately albeit I wanted to believe the Bunnies had crossed the T's and dotted the I's.
 

Perth Red

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yeh its shocking that clubs should find ways to pay players what they are worth to play for them. Who in their right mind would want clubs bringing on board big business to pump money into the game. Why on earth would we be looking for ways to be paying our best and most saleable assets more to keep them from signing for rival companies, Its great to see communism is alive and well in the NRL!
 
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I said it weeks ago. Souffs have been bagging Easts, sometimes fairly, often unjustly, for playing 'chequebook Rugby League' and being a trasnit lounge for years. They are very quickly becoming everything they have claimed to hate and blindly applauding every step of the way. A club of hypocrites. This proves what we all already knew - their years of sooking were borne purely out of jealousy.

Years ago there was talk that we would challenge the salary and we were branded cheats and that we had to be over the cap because we were trying to force change now all their fans are advocating legal action. Hypocrites of the highest order. They try and hold on to this working class team but lap up the rich owner pumping the team full of Armani suits and flashy mod cons.

f**k 50uffs off and replace them with Perth/WA whatever they're called.
 

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Years ago there was talk that we would challenge the salary and we were branded cheats and that we had to be over the cap because we were trying to force change now all their fans are advocating legal action. Hypocrites of the highest order. They try and hold on to this working class team but lap up the rich owner pumping the team full of Armani suits and flashy mod cons.

f**k 50uffs off and replace them with Perth/WA whatever they're called.
How about you f**k off and get replaced by a rubbish bin? It'll talk more sense.
 
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Lambretta

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I said it weeks ago. Souffs have been bagging Easts, sometimes fairly, often unjustly, for playing 'chequebook Rugby League' and being a transit lounge for years. They are very quickly becoming everything they have claimed to hate and blindly applauding every step of the way. A club of hypocrites. This proves what we all already knew - their years of sooking were borne purely out of jealousy.

The Roosters realised years ago that if you want success and you don't have a never ending supply of players then you've got to buy. Even if you do have that production line you need to pay to retain that talent.

In professional sport, as in any business, and lets never forget this IS a business, you need to plan well and be well financed.

We realised this before almost anyone else (but it was a position forced upon us). Souths realised this years later - although many of their fans knew this for years but didn't publicly admit to it.

Now Rusty has taken over they've finally publicly admitted what everyone else has known. If you want the best, you have to pay for it. We've known it for years - but now there is one less club in a position to attack us for it.

Don't apologise for having money, don't grovel, but also, don't then turn around and start attacking others who aren't as lucky as you and who aren't in a position to buy what you can buy and don't assume that it's always going to be there either.

I think what pisses people off the most about BunniesMan position (and in all honesty, he is the most vocal about this stuff) is the hypocrisy of trying to stab those in the backs (Cronulla) who are now in the position that Souths were previously in.

If Rsty backs out and Souths are left adrift, they might well find themselves in dire straights. Good times come and go. It's when times are good that you need to behave with good grace - because if you fall on hard times and have nothing but enemies then you're completely f**ked.

BunniesMan, pull your f**king head in mate. Yes the cap is bullsh*t at times and yes it needs constant consideration. But sometimes it's better to stand back and accept that can sometimes help you will at other times hinder you.

There is never an absolute right or wrong about alot of issues. The cap is now hindering you - where previously it saved the very club itself. Understand that and accept it and stop chest beating and maybe, just maybe, people will think better of you and your club.

Understand YOU REPRESENT Souths by your very words and from where I am sitting, you're doing a terrible f**king job.
 

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The Roosters realised years ago that if you want success and you don't have a never ending supply of players then you've got to buy. Even if you do have that production line you need to pay to retain that talent.

In professional sport, as in any business, and lets never forget this IS a business, you need to plan well and be well financed.

We realised this before almost anyone else (but it was a position forced upon us). Souths realised this years later - although many of their fans knew this for years but didn't publicly admit to it.

Now Rusty has taken over they've finally publicly admitted what everyone else has known. If you want the best, you have to pay for it. We've known it for years - but now there is one less club in a position to attack us for it.

Don't apologise for having money, don't grovel, but also, don't then turn around and start attacking others who aren't as lucky as you and who aren't in a position to buy what you can buy and don't assume that it's always going to be there either.

I think what pisses people off the most about BunniesMan position (and in all honesty, he is the most vocal about this stuff) is the hypocrisy of trying to stab those in the backs (Cronulla) who are now in the position that Souths were previously in.

If Rsty backs out and Souths are left adrift, they might well find themselves in dire straights. Good times come and go. It's when times are good that you need to behave with good grace - because if you fall on hard times and have nothing but enemies then you're completely f**ked.

BunniesMan, pull your f**king head in mate. Yes the cap is bullsh*t at times and yes it needs constant consideration. But sometimes it's better to stand back and accept that can sometimes help you will at other times hinder you.

There is never an absolute right or wrong about alot of issues. The cap is now hindering you - where previously it saved the very club itself. Understand that and accept it and stop chest beating and maybe, just maybe, people will think better of you and your club.

Understand YOU REPRESENT Souths by your very words and from where I am sitting, you're doing a terrible f**king job.
How about you understand my position and opinions before you attack me for them? I never said I'm against the cap. I never said I want to stab any weak team in the back (although many of them have done that in the past). I do want to see the 3rd party rules relaxed (the poor clubs have the ability to get their act together, get on the phone and get onto 3rd parties. It's not something that can only be done in Redfern and Bondi). I don't want to see the cap gone, I also believe the cap (even though it might be illegal) is good for the game.
 

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IF the Inglis 3rd party deals were against the rules then the rules need to be changed. It is beyond ridiculous that a cash strapped league is knocking back money from sponsors.
You said earlier that you find it 'mind boggling' that the NRL would think the NSW Health Department and ANZ Stadium would agree to a dodgy deal. Again, it's not the sponsor's job to check if the club is doing it by the book.

It's not about the legitimacy of the sponsors, it is about how Souths have conducted themselves. They made announcements and commitments before gaining approval from the NRL. They should have forwarded their proposals to the NRL beforehand.

The NRL want to see all the detail before anyone starts shooting off their mouth, and fair enough too. If you were truly in favour of the salary cap, you'd agree as well.

BunniesMan said:
It's like offering to buy a homeless man lunch and him giving you the middle finger for it.
No, it's nothing like that.
 

Lambretta

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How about you understand my position and opinions before you attack me for them? I never said I'm against the cap. I never said I want to stab any weak team in the back (although many of them have done that in the past). I do want to see the 3rd party rules relaxed (the poor clubs have the ability to get their act together, get on the phone and get onto 3rd parties. It's not something that can only be done in Redfern and Bondi). I don't want to see the cap gone, I also believe the cap (even though it might be illegal) is good for the game.


Mate, it's not so much what you say, but how you go about it.

So this week you like the cap and don't like the way they look at third party arrangements. Guess what - not many do. But we accept them because they're there to protect others.

Do you honestly think that the removal of the restrictions on third party agreements would help Souths and noone else? Of course not - in fact the strongest teams, Brisbane, Melbourne, St George etc would be best placed to take advantage of these things.

I understand your position and in large I sympathise with it - god alone knows the salary cap meant the Roosters were dismantled after a period of dominance. Did you think that was fun for us to watch player after player leave because we couldnt fit them in?

But sometimes you earn more respect by keeping quiet and allowing things to develop before shouting off at the mouth.

Understand this. I'm not having a go at you or Souths - I'm actually trying to help you here by giving some friendly advice. Like I've said before - I love your passion - I just think it manifests itself in a rather unhealthy manner. and yes, I'm being a bleedin dad again, I know.
 
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roboshark

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The Roosters realised years ago that if you want success and you don't have a never ending supply of players then you've got to buy. Even if you do have that production line you need to pay to retain that talent.

In professional sport, as in any business, and lets never forget this IS a business, you need to plan well and be well financed.

We realised this before almost anyone else (but it was a position forced upon us). Souths realised this years later - although many of their fans knew this for years but didn't publicly admit to it.

Now Rusty has taken over they've finally publicly admitted what everyone else has known. If you want the best, you have to pay for it. We've known it for years - but now there is one less club in a position to attack us for it.

Don't apologise for having money, don't grovel, but also, don't then turn around and start attacking others who aren't as lucky as you and who aren't in a position to buy what you can buy and don't assume that it's always going to be there either.

I think what pisses people off the most about BunniesMan position (and in all honesty, he is the most vocal about this stuff) is the hypocrisy of trying to stab those in the backs (Cronulla) who are now in the position that Souths were previously in.

If Rsty backs out and Souths are left adrift, they might well find themselves in dire straights. Good times come and go. It's when times are good that you need to behave with good grace - because if you fall on hard times and have nothing but enemies then you're completely f**ked.

BunniesMan, pull your f**king head in mate. Yes the cap is bullsh*t at times and yes it needs constant consideration. But sometimes it's better to stand back and accept that can sometimes help you will at other times hinder you.

There is never an absolute right or wrong about alot of issues. The cap is now hindering you - where previously it saved the very club itself. Understand that and accept it and stop chest beating and maybe, just maybe, people will think better of you and your club.

Understand YOU REPRESENT Souths by your very words and from where I am sitting, you're doing a terrible f**king job.

Well said mate..couldn't agree more
 

Borat.

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...r-savages-nrl-over-ruling-20101219-191zp.html

Here we go - Souffs supp. spitting the dummy over GI..get use to it plenty more comming in the next few weeks...

We just want to keep GI in the NRL...utter crap...


GI blues: sponsor savages NRL over ruling

Glenn Jackson

December 20, 2010
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Greg Inglis with Rabbitohs coach John Lang at Redfern Oval last month. Photo: Getty Images

THE chairman of the Aboriginal Medical Service - one of four third-party sponsors to be scrutinised by the NRL in its investigation into Greg Inglis's contract - has attacked the policing of the salary cap and claimed sponsors would be lost to rugby league because of the heavy-handed approach to Inglis's South Sydney deal.
Sol Bellear expressed his disappointment that the NRL chose to rule $30,000 of a $75,000-a-season offer over three years must be included in the Rabbitohs' cap. The Herald understands the $45,000 judged not part of the cap was the only portion of all four deals to be ruled thus.
As Rabbitohs co-owner Russell Crowe admitted the club faced a ''challenge'' to ensure Inglis plays with the Rabbitohs next year and beyond, Bellear became the first representative from the potential third-party sponsors to publicly criticise the NRL for its handling of the saga.
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Bellear said the medical service would have sponsored Inglis had he been at any other NSW club - or even in rugby union - a point he maintained when interviewed by the NRL salary cap auditor Ian Schubert and lawyer Tony O'Reilly.
Bellear said he first approached Inglis about an ambassadorial role with the AMS, based in Redfern, in February during the camp for the All Stars match on the Gold Coast - well before Melbourne had to shed the centre following the investigation into the club's salary cap rorting, and well before Souths began negotiating with the Test representative.
''I'm disappointed,'' Bellear said. ''Greg wants a career in Aboriginal health. Whether he was at Newcastle, or Penrith, or even playing rugby union, we would have pursued him to be a part of Aboriginal health.
''I think the NRL has got it very wrong, and the salary cap audit has got it very wrong. I understand that the game needs a salary cap, but they've got to … understand that there are a lot of very honest third-party sponsors. I said to Schubert that we're going to get a lot more out of Greg Inglis than we'll be putting in.''
Bellear is a former director of the Rabbitohs but he maintained he was the last person who would collude with the club, as he voted against the privatisation by Crowe and Peter Holmes a Court and was a staunch supporter of former club president George Piggins. ''I told Schubert and O'Reilly that I stood against the privatisation of Souths and that I stood on the George Piggins ticket,'' Bellear said. ''I thought it was premature for Souths to be privatised - I've since been proven wrong, but I certainly haven't rolled over.
''If anyone wasn't going to get in bed with Souths, it was me. I first spoke to Greg in February. Greg had no plans to leave Melbourne then - I didn't say, 'If you come to Souths, we'll take you on board'. I told him if he came to Sydney, or anywhere in NSW, we'd love to have him on board.''
Bellear said he also resented any suggestion he had colluded with the Rabbitohs. ''We've got reputation as a charitable organisation,'' he said. ''This is going to scare off some third-party sponsors.''
The Rabbitohs had proposed to list Inglis under the salary cap at $190,000 next season and $350,000 for each of the following two years and argued that the NRL agreed to a similar arrangement for Sam Burgess, who was valued at $175,000 last season and $350,000 for the remaining three years of his contract.
ANZ Stadium officials also believe their $50,000 deal with Inglis is almost identical to that Bulldogs playmaker Brett Kimmorley had this year, except he will be required to make even more corporate and promotional appearances in his role as a promoter of the stadium.
Schubert had required Souths officials and representatives of all four non-club sponsors - ANZ Stadium, the AMS, WA Spit Roast and an inner-Sydney car dealership - to provide statuary declarations about the deals, forward any emails relating to Inglis's contract or third-party arrangements and to make themselves available for questioning by O'Reilly.
The Rabbitohs are stunned by the ruling, which is worse than they could have predicted, as Inglis's contract has been averaged out over the three years, even though his deal was back-ended.
Crowe tweeted: ''The NRL decision is intriguing. We have a challenge in front of us. We are still moving towards our goal.''
But the Rabbitohs will seek a more detailed explanation from the NRL before deciding whether to attempt to release other players to accommodate Inglis. Michael Crocker, one of those mentioned at risk of being off-loaded, told Channel Seven last night: ''No, I'm not going anywhere. There's a good feeling at the club - I think all the boys feel the same. They want to stay around for the next couple of years.''
Parramatta, one of the clubs with money to spend, will be inevitably linked to any player who might be released. But chief executive Paul Osborne still does not believe the Eels could sign Inglis, predicting the Rabbitohs will shed talent to keep him.
 
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