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Grothe, Kenny eye coaching gig

hybrideel

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I don't think either of them should be coach, but to disregard them completely i believe is wrong. And with Fitzy's well known treatment and lack of respect of our best known greats, what incentive is there for the current players to want to become a great of the club?
 

Ron Jeremy

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I agree with Fitzy in this instance, more the fact that i doubt these two players could really offer any coaching at all which hasn't already been given. It's not 1983.
 

Jodeci

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Did Kenny not take Penrith Under 21's team to the GF in his first yr of coaching?

Stagger what happened from 1990 - 1996 couldn't draw any comparisons to now.

They just want to be around the place and help out.

It could be a great marketing tool and boost some needed revenue for the club in a way where the legends could involve themselves with the general public. Example for the next stadium tour, how good would it be if Sterlo took us for a tour/chat in the dressing sheds, and then Pricey doing the same thing on the field with a few stories whilst other legends give us a taste of the other departments instead of having a monkey explain to us how the interchange system works and how does the grass grow.

Have a club great sit with fellow STH's in a few bays, just little things that will make people notice as well as helping out at training.

They/we are not saying to run the Football Club, just to be associated with the place they built for us
 

Stagger eel

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Did Kenny not take Penrith Under 21's team to the GF in his first yr of coaching?

Stagger what happened from 1990 - 1996 couldn't draw any comparisons to now.

They just want to be around the place and help out.

It could be a great marketing tool and boost some needed revenue for the club in a way where the legends could involve themselves with the general public. Example for the next stadium tour, how good would it be if Sterlo took us for a tour/chat in the dressing sheds, and then Pricey doing the same thing on the field with a few stories whilst other legends give us a taste of the other departments instead of having a monkey explain to us how the interchange system works and how does the grass grow.

Have a club great sit with fellow STH's in a few bays, just little things that will make people notice as well as helping out at training.

They/we are not saying to run the Football Club, just to be associated with the place they built for us

yes, Kenny did take Penrith to gf win but his contract wasn't renewed, so you'll have to ask Penrith why it wasn't??

and I'm not for a moment, saying that they shouldn't be involved in the club, they should..and I've been advocating that point for a very long time, our club has in the past failed to recognise our past greats especially on match days, but these are coaching roles and you need to have the best available coach's on board don't you agree with that, now correct me if i'm wrong but from memory tha last time Guru snr coached any side was over a decade ago for the Wests Harold Mathews side and Bert has never worked fulltime at any level since his playing days, so I can't see the point and appointing past legends for the sake of it but I can see them on game days handing out jerseys, talking to the players just prior to running out and presenting them with MOM awards from previous matches.
 

Jodeci

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yes, Kenny did take Penrith to gf win but his contract wasn't renewed, so you'll have to ask Penrith why it wasn't??

and I'm not for a moment, saying that they shouldn't be involved in the club, they should..and I've been advocating that point for a very long time, our club has in the past failed to recognise our past greats especially on match days, but these are coaching roles and you need to have the best available coach's on board don't you agree with that, now correct me if i'm wrong but from memory tha last time Guru snr coached any side was over a decade ago for the Wests Harold Mathews side and Bert has never worked fulltime at any level since his playing days, so I can't see the point and appointing past legends for the sake of it but I can see them on game days handing out jerseys, talking to the players just prior to running out and presenting them with MOM awards from previous matches.

My opinion would be to get these guys on board and help out with all aspects on a part time basis.

I'm and I'm sure Guru and Bert dont want to be assisgned as backs or forward coaches, they want to be part of the culture.

Fitzy just wants to save money. We know they cleared the office a bit with getting rid of a few people to free up a bit of cash.

The Dragons still involve their greats. Chook Raper attends a few Red V gatherings after home games and the club even flew up Reg Gasiner and Chook for a Legends promo on the Gold Coast before the Dragons vs Titans game this year.

Even a segment on parratv with old footage, etc

The club gives our icons season life tickets but do we see our legends at many home games?
 

Delboy

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Jodeci, the issue of cash is critical at the moment, I was talking to someone who advised that they have paid close to $19 million in extra tax to the useless State Govt since 2005, and it has all come from profits at the Leagues Club. They are not in position to evern make their usual grants to the local communtiy, this poker machine tax is even flowing down to junior clubs.

At the STH , we were advised that after the Football Club grants (which have all been reduced) the Leagues Club will actually run at a loss.

Fish will no doubt give us the chardonnay socialist view relating to the poker tax, but whilst it may not be the total influence of the coaching appointments, be sure we are moving into the same expenditure issue that we saw the Knights and others in. Thanks Mr Carr and Mr Egan.

Rant over
 

fish eel

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Jodeci, the issue of cash is critical at the moment, I was talking to someone who advised that they have paid close to $19 million in extra tax to the useless State Govt since 2005, and it has all come from profits at the Leagues Club. They are not in position to evern make their usual grants to the local communtiy, this poker machine tax is even flowing down to junior clubs.

At the STH , we were advised that after the Football Club grants (which have all been reduced) the Leagues Club will actually run at a loss.

Fish will no doubt give us the chardonnay socialist view relating to the poker tax, but whilst it may not be the total influence of the coaching appointments, be sure we are moving into the same expenditure issue that we saw the Knights and others in. Thanks Mr Carr and Mr Egan.

Rant over

That's a Pinot Noir socialist view thank you!
 

Stagger eel

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My opinion would be to get these guys on board and help out with all aspects on a part time basis.

I'm and I'm sure Guru and Bert dont want to be assisgned as backs or forward coaches, they want to be part of the culture.

Fitzy just wants to save money. We know they cleared the office a bit with getting rid of a few people to free up a bit of cash.

The Dragons still involve their greats. Chook Raper attends a few Red V gatherings after home games and the club even flew up Reg Gasiner and Chook for a Legends promo on the Gold Coast before the Dragons vs Titans game this year.

Even a segment on parratv with old footage, etc

The club gives our icons season life tickets but do we see our legends at many home games?

in an ideal world, it would be great, but can we afford to bring extra staff into the football club after they retrenched 6 people only a couple of months ago, wouldn't that be seen as slightly hypacritical. Ref: Delboys post.

And as I said before, I totally agree and we should be doing St George, Canterbury and Souths are doing by involving their greats but they're not on their payrole, this to me, is a completely different issue all together.

As for PTV, I sent them an e-mail about this 6 months ago but they obviously weren't interested in giving us a regular "where are they now" or a special segnment dedicated to past players and greats.

well, in regards to who I see, in the past season just gone i have noticed Eric Grothe senior, Bear O'Reilly, Wally Wynn, Gerard, Mark Laurie, Neil Hunt and even Steve ella for one match which isn't bad going for a club that doesn't do a great deal for it's legends.
 

Delboy

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Sorry Fish, should have realised that under Kevin 747 your tastes have gone upmarket, is there a Mandarin wine in your hooch reserve.
 

fish eel

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As an aside, but on the issue raised by Delboy (and without getting into the merits of the tx!), I would suggest the collapse in State revenue caused by the downturn in the property sector means there is somewhere between none and buckleys chance IMO of any changes being made to the pokie tax that would result in less revenue for the Government.
 
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