Haddin

[BunniesMan]

Haddin has been by far our worst player in this series and it's embarassing to see him mouthing off at the Indians on and off the the pitch when he's the clear weak link.

f**k him off. Neither his batting nor his keeping is good enough. Bring on Wade.

 

[Chip Bayless]

Agree with you BunniesMan. I believe he will be given a farewell option at Adelaide though Wade comes in to team from there. Blood him during ODI series, get him over to Windies for Test debut.

 

[HevyDevy]

His keeping has generally been very good all summer other than that shocking match in Sydney.

The problem he has with the bat now seems to be one of confusion - should he attack or put a higher price on his wicket? IMO he must go out and attack in Adelaide. The irony is that Gilly never put a high price on his wicket either ... but everyone loves Gilly so that was okay.

 

[aqua_duck]

Gilly didnt put a high price on his wicket but he was also hard to get out and batted very well with the tail, I now see Haddin as part of the tail

 

[HevyDevy]

Gilly didnt put a high price on his wicket but he was also hard to get out and batted very well with the tail, I now see Haddin as part of the tail

No he wasn't champ. Gilly was very much hit and miss - it's just that when he hit it was game over.

I'm not saying Haddin is anywhere near as good as the great Gilly - he'll be hard to top - but I'm not sure what it is people expect from Hads. Unfortunately because he plays in the Gilly style it is inevitable he will always be compared to him.

That said, he needs to get his shit together quick-smart.

 

[aqua_duck]

No he wasn't champ. Gilly was very much hit and miss - it's just that when he hit it was game over.

I'm not saying Haddin is anywhere near as good as the great Gilly - he'll be hard to top - but I'm not sure what it is people expect from Hads. Unfortunately because he plays in the Gilly style it is inevitable he will always be compared to him.

That said, he needs to get his shit together quick-smart.

I meant to say hard to get out once he got his eye in. There was many an occasion where Gilly would frustrate the hell out of an opposition even with a tailender at the other end.
Haddin has just turned to shit recently, don't worry about the Gilly comparisons, he's going about as good as Geraint Jones atm

 

[Chip Bayless]

His keeping has generally been very good all summer other than that shocking match in Sydney.

The problem he has with the bat now seems to be one of confusion - should he attack or put a higher price on his wicket? IMO he must go out and attack in Adelaide. The irony is that Gilly never put a high price on his wicket either ... but everyone loves Gilly so that was okay.

Please...Adam Gilchrist, like any coming in at 7, bats according to the situation. To say "Gilly never put a high price on his wicket" (or Haddin for that matter) is ridiculous in my opinion.

I am a massive Brad Haddin fan, so the throw away "but everyone loves Gilly so that was ok" I dismiss as well. Haddin's all round game has fallen well off and at his age, it is unlikely he improves. He may stop the loss of form, though we have seen his best and given Ponting/Hussey are likely to remain in the side for the next 12-18 months, it would be an ideal time to move Haddin on and bring in a young guy ten years his junior. Wade isn't terrible and would will blossom in this Australian side. I'd argue he is better in both keeping and batting at this stage of their careers.

 

[HevyDevy]

Please...Adam Gilchrist, like any coming in at 7, bats according to the situation. To say "Gilly never put a high price on his wicket" (or Haddin for that matter) is ridiculous in my opinion.

I am a massive Brad Haddin fan, so the throw away "but everyone loves Gilly so that was ok" I dismiss as well. Haddin's all round game has fallen well off and at his age, it is unlikely he improves. He may stop the loss of form, though we have seen his best and given Ponting/Hussey are likely to remain in the side for the next 12-18 months, it would be an ideal time to move Haddin on and bring in a young guy ten years his junior. Wade isn't terrible and would will blossom in this Australian side. I'd argue he is better in both keeping and batting at this stage of their careers.

Hey I never said either went out there to throw their wicket away, but neither did they ever head to the crease with the intention of not getting out. Their natural games are to attack and that means that there are going to be plenty of times when they are back in the pavilion pretty quick. That's what I call 'not putting a high price on their wicket' and I'm quite happy for that to be the case .

Anyway, I certainly agree that Haddin's best days are behind him. I'd be more than happy to bring Wade in after this series. In-fact, it can only be a good thing if a decent young keeper cements his spot before Paine is fit again.

 

[Chip Bayless]

Hey I never said either went out there to throw their wicket away, but neither did they ever head to the crease with the intention of not getting out. Their natural games are to attack and that means that there are going to be plenty of times when they are back in the pavilion pretty quick. That's what I call 'not putting a high price on their wicket' and I'm quite happy for that to be the case .

Anyway, I certainly agree that Haddin's best days are behind him. I'd be more than happy to bring Wade in after this series. In-fact, it can only be a good thing if a decent young keeper cements his spot before Paine is fit again.

No worries. Paine vs Wade will be a good battle. I liked Paine as next in line prior to injury though a lot of question marks now on his future.

 

[aqua_duck]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/adelaide-is-haddins-last-chance/story-e6frexni-1226245909147

BRAD Haddin will be playing for his cricketing life in Adelaide next week.

While the struggling wicket-keeper is certain to be part of what is expected to be an unchanged squad for the fourth and final Test against India, his days are numbered.

In what can be considered a rehearsal for the West Indies tour, Victorian wicket-keeper Matthew Wade is likely to be given plenty of opportunities during next month's one-day series to press his case.

Wade, 24, is on the cusp of becoming a regular international given the modest performances of Haddin, 34, with bat and gloves in recent series.

Once considered one of the best batsmen in domestic cricket, Haddin's batting has fallen away badly.

He has averaged in the teens during three of his last four series and his most recent duck in the third Test gives him an average of just 11 against India this summer.

Likewise Haddin's glovework has been inconsistent, dropping catches in recent matches. In both cases his feet are failing to move.

There's no point trying to be a stand and deliver batsman if you can't deliver.

Much of Australia's long-term planning is centred on 2013, with Test tours to India and England then a home Ashes series.

If the selectors don't see Haddin being around in a year, and on form that appears most unlikely, then change is imminent. Likewise there is no need to continue with him in the one-day team.

Haddin is no longer playing Twenty20 internationals so he won't be a part of the T20 World Cup in September and the 50-over World Cup is not until 2015 so it is time to start considering new blood.

Wade is already Australia's Twenty20 wicket-keeper in the wake of Tim Paine's long term finger injury and is soon likely to be Australia's one-day 'keeper as well.

While Paine, 27, has already played four Tests and 26 one-day internationals as a stand-in for Haddin when injured, the Tasmanian has not played since the middle of last year, when he represented Australia A against Zimbabwe.

Paine is in line to be leap-frogged by Wade.

If there is one thing Australia has at the moment it is a surfeit of wicket-keepers, with Wade and New South Welshman Phil Nevill, 26, both averaging above 60 in the Sheffield Shield.

 

[hineyrulz]

Thank god they see Wade next in line, screw Paine who is the most overated cricketer in the country by a furlong.

 

[Chip Bayless]

Wade next in line is rather obvious when his rival is still out though right? :?

 

[yappy]

Nev would do a great job, but Wade has earned the right to be next in line. I'd have both in front of Paine fit or not.

 

[hineyrulz]

Wade next in line is rather obvious when his rival is still out though right? :?

The only reason Haddin is still in the side is the selectors are still holding a torch for CA's golden boy Paine. Maybe Paines injury is so bad they have to look past him............... finally.

 

[Chip Bayless]

The only reason Haddin is still in the side is the selectors are still holding a torch for CA's golden boy Paine. Maybe Paines injury is so bad they have to look past him............... finally.

I don't agree with this. I believe the plan was always to keep Haddin in the side for this summer to see if regressed of lifted his game assessing his long term viability.

Matthew Wade leapfrogged Tim Paine (depending where you are on this rivalry) and it will be Wade's job to lose. I think he can be really good. I believe he is a better keeper than Haddin and at the moment, the better batsmen. Yet to be sold he was a better than Haddin when Haddin was in his prime, though he is 24 and has a real shot at being out next long term guy at wicket keeper.

 

[Horrie Is God]

I don't agree with this. I believe the plan was always to keep Haddin in the side for this summer to see if regressed of lifted his game assessing his long term viability.

Matthew Wade leapfrogged Tim Paine (depending where you are on this rivalry) and it will be Wade's job to lose. I think he can be really good. I believe he is a better keeper than Haddin and at the moment, the better batsmen. Yet to be sold he was a better than Haddin when Haddin was in his prime, though he is 24 and has a real shot at being out next long term guy at wicket keeper.

I'm a better keeper than Hadds ATM..And i'm 41 years old with poor eyesight..:sarcasm:

Hadds time is up..The selectors need to show him the same sympathy they showed Healy..Get Wade in ASAP..

That miss in Sydney when he didn't get a glove on the ball was nothing short of pathetic..

Boony would've caught it,& he was one of the worst stand in keepers of al time..

I'm on the Wade side of the rivalry..Mainly because Paine is a crock,& i don't want see our side full of tampons..Watson is enough..

 

[yappy]

I don't agree with this. I believe the plan was always to keep Haddin in the side for this summer to see if regressed of lifted his game assessing his long term viability.

Matthew Wade leapfrogged Tim Paine (depending where you are on this rivalry) and it will be Wade's job to lose. I think he can be really good. I believe he is a better keeper than Haddin and at the moment, the better batsmen. Yet to be sold he was a better than Haddin when Haddin was in his prime, though he is 24 and has a real shot at being out next long term guy at wicket keeper.

Problem for Haddin was that he didn't get the gig until he was virtually past his prime. Probably should have had the job a year earlier, but it was Gilchrist so understandable. At 34 you just aren't going to get better as a keeper. The eyes and reflexes are not going to be as good as they were at 25-30 no matter how hard you work.

Wade is really just coming into his prime. Perfect time to get him into the side. Could easily do the job for 10 years if he makes a real good fist of it.

 

[HevyDevy]

Nev would do a great job, but Wade has earned the right to be next in line. I'd have both in front of Paine fit or not.

Agreed.

 

[Horrie Is God]

Times up Hadds..

Adelaide is the perfect time to get Wade in the side..

 

[Dragon]

lolHaddin

2nd ball duck in a T20 against spin