Have the Tigers convinced Moltzen to stay? Release sought from his Saints contract

_Johnsy · Oct 30, 2011

Verbal assurance ink, your clown CEO has already stated this is so. No written release.

No thanks we want players with heart. make no bones about it he'll be wearing black, gold and white in 2012.

innsaneink · Oct 30, 2011

_Johnsy said:
Verbal assurance ink, your clown CEO has already stated this is so. No written release.

No thanks we want players with heart. make no bones about it he'll be wearing black, gold and white in 2012.

News to me....''stated" eh, got a link for that?
I highly doubt you do.

bubblesunlimited · Oct 30, 2011

Saints fans are hammering Moltz ( understandably I will add ) because he signed a contract with them but doesn't wanna play there anymore.

Hasn't Gasnier done the same thing?

He has 2 years to run on his contract and is saying he doesn't want to play for them anymore.

Same Same.

Cue Willow.

kurt faulk · Oct 30, 2011

innsaneink said:
Take him.

Please!

not in a million years. just give the saints some money so they can spend it on a real player. can't believe they offered him a cent over $50,000.

thankfully he and the tigers are unprofessional swine so the saints don't have to deal with him and his soft attitude.

.

canberra_raiders2k2 · Oct 30, 2011

Although these headaches for a benchie at best? Far out...

St_Jubbsy · Oct 31, 2011

bubblesunlimited said:
Saints fans are hammering Moltz ( understandably I will add ) because he signed a contract with them but doesn't wanna play there anymore.

Hasn't Gasnier done the same thing?

He has 2 years to run on his contract and is saying he doesn't want to play for them anymore.

Same Same.

Cue Willow.

LOL, yeah mate, it's the same.....please don't reproduce....

bubblesunlimited · Oct 31, 2011

St_Jubbsy said:
LOL, yeah mate, it's the same.....please don't reproduce....

Jubbsy, tell me how Gasnier not wanting to honor his legal and binding contract commitments is any different.

Do the Dragons have the right to stop him from retiring?

You need to stop reproducing with your family members, don't make things personal you knob.

andrew9148 · Oct 31, 2011

bubblesunlimited said:
Jubbsy, tell me how Gasnier not wanting to honor his legal and binding contract commitments is any different.

Do the Dragons have the right to stop him from retiring?

You need to stop reproducing with your family members, don't make things personal you knob.

I rAised this a few weeks back. It was like I shot Bambi. Gasnier has done more damage to st George than moltz

St_Jubbsy · Oct 31, 2011

bubblesunlimited said:
Jubbsy, tell me how Gasnier not wanting to honor his legal and binding contract commitments is any different.

Do the Dragons have the right to stop him from retiring?

You need to stop reproducing with your family members, don't make things personal you knob.

No points for originality there.

A player choosing to retire early is completely different to a player reneging on a deal in order to continue playing for an opposing team. If Gasnier had chucked in his Dragons contract to go and play for another team, you may have a point.

In addition, Gasnier made his decision at a time when the club could then go and look for other players to fill out their squad. In contrast, we had poor Timmy who suddenly has reneged on his deal at a time when there is no opportunity for the club to pursue other players.

If you can't see the difference, time to step up the meds.

bubblesunlimited · Oct 31, 2011

St_Jubbsy said:
No points for originality there.

A player choosing to retire early is completely different to a player reneging on a deal in order to continue playing for an opposing team. If Gasnier had chucked in his Dragons contract to go and play for another team, you may have a point.

In addition, Gasnier made his decision at a time when the club could then go and look for other players to fill out their squad. In contrast, we had poor Timmy who suddenly has reneged on his deal at a time when there is no opportunity for the club to pursue other players.

If you can't see the difference, time to step up the meds.

Yes, but he has still chosen not to honor the terms and conditions of his legally binding contract. Yes or no?

As far as the meds go, I am a tampon man personally.

Hutty1986 · Oct 31, 2011

bubblesunlimited said:
Yes, but he has still chosen not to honor the terms and conditions of his legally binding contract. Yes or no?

As far as the meds go, I am a tampon man personally.

In what universe is retirement & moving to a different club remotely comparable?

St_Jubbsy · Oct 31, 2011

bubblesunlimited said:
Yes, but he has still chosen not to honor the terms and conditions of his legally binding contract. Yes or no?

As far as the meds go, I am a tampon man personally.

No. The contract was terminated by mutual agreement between him and Saints when he indicated that he no longer had the desire to play on.

But you have already admitted it is not an analogous situation to Moltzengate so it's a strawman argument.

Fingerbang · Oct 31, 2011

bubblesunlimited said:
I am a tampon man personally.

Hey.....so is Moltzen, by the looks of it.

gronkathon · Oct 31, 2011

I wouldn't find the situations comparable at all personally.

It does raise the eyebrows though when weighing up that Gasniers contract value for year 2010 was accepted in part because of the remaining time on the contract after 2010 thus justifying the extremely low salary cap included contract for the 2010 season.

Back to the Moltzen situation I hope the NRL makes him sit out the year personally

Fingerbang · Oct 31, 2011

If they make him sit out....shouldn't it be for the entire contract, 3 years?

grouch · Oct 31, 2011

andrew9148 said:
I rAised this a few weeks back. It was like I shot Bambi. Gasnier has done more damage to st George than moltz

lol Bambi was never shot. You can't get anything right, can you?

bubblesunlimited · Oct 31, 2011

St_Jubbsy said:
No. The contract was terminated by mutual agreement between him and Saints when he indicated that he no longer had the desire to play on.

But you have already admitted it is not an analogous situation to Moltzengate so it's a strawman argument.

Saints could do the same with Moltzen.

bubblesunlimited · Oct 31, 2011

Hutty1986 said:
In what universe is retirement & moving to a different club remotely comparable?

When you retire with 2 years to run on your legally binding contract that you have now chosen not to comply with the terms and conditions of.

Simple really.

Fingerbang · Oct 31, 2011

bubblesunlimited said:
Saints could do the same with Moltzen.

If he said he wants to retire and not play the game anymore, they probably would.

Fingerbang · Oct 31, 2011

bubblesunlimited said:
When you retire with 2 years to run on your legally binding contract that you have now chosen not to comply with the terms and conditions of.

Simple really.

Talk about thick. What part of mutual agreement do you not understand?

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