Hayne for president

[Hindyscrack]

It was clearly a NO TRY.

Her pass to Creagh was CLEARLY forward.

This isn't yet another of my posts meant to hack into HaHa at any opportunity. Tonight she was a Blue and I cheered for her every time she was involved. However, both of those situations were very clear.

This is just another case of people clearly trying to wank off HaHa any chance they get.

:lol:

Knob

 

[Snoochies]

I think this Sundays game will be a huge game for Hayne. He's going up against the NSW fullback in Gidley so Hayne has a really good shot at putting his hand up for the NSW fullback spot.

 

[oldmancraigy]

I think this Sundays game will be a huge game for Hayne. He's going up against the NSW fullback in Gidley so Hayne has a really good shot at putting his hand up for the NSW fullback spot.

No he doesn't.

Unfortunately Kidley is the NSW captain, and they won't change the side.

Completely sucks because Kids has looked decidedly ordinary at the Origin level while Hayne has consistently looked the goods.

Little Gidley is a real tryer, but just doesn't deliver at that level.

 

[spiderdan]

he had a ripper of a game. everything nsw did that looked like happening involved hayne.

two points though-

-first no try ruling i agreed with. the way hayne's ankle rolled in when it looked like his heel touched the line tells me he did actualy touch it.

-the inside pass that went to vidiot and was ruled a try was wrong. the ball went a few metres forward and the fact it went upstairs meant the vidiot couldn't rule on a forward pass. there was no passing backwards out of the hands in that. the ball floating forward concept relates to coming out of the hands backward and the players momentum transfering to the ball carrying forward - not a loose pass that goes forward from the momentum the ball already has. 100% wrong call i thought.

that said hayne was head and shoulders above everyone in that blues team.

 

[Fathead]

Firstly let me say, I have no allegience either way. I love both NSW and Qld.
I support Rugby League.
Suprise suprise Bill "look at moi" Harrigan creates some debate !!

Truly Bill would call an apple - an orange and when challenged would say " hey do you know who I am ??" Some of the decisions this egotist has made over the years have been mind boggling.

There is no way in the world that Harrigan could conclusively state that Haynes foot touched that line. The fact that he took 7 or 8 replays of the motion proves that there was at least benefit of the doubt to the attacking team.

'Benefit of the doubt to the attacking team' - hear that Bill? You know - the rule that is in place at the moment ?? No - thought not.

Maybe Bill Harrigan could share with us blind idiots, his life commandments. Maybe cure world hunger or solve the middle east crisis.
Im sure he truly believes he could do it.

Shame on the NRL for letting this egotist any where near the NRL. I was sitting in the stand with some Victoria friends and Haynes run sold them on rugby league. The decison sent them back to the AFL.

 

[oldmancraigy]

he had a ripper of a game. everything nsw did that looked like happening involved hayne.

two points though-

-first no try ruling i agreed with. the way hayne's ankle rolled in when it looked like his heel touched the line tells me he did actualy touch it.

-the inside pass that went to vidiot and was ruled a try was wrong. the ball went a few metres forward and the fact it went upstairs meant the vidiot couldn't rule on a forward pass. there was no passing backwards out of the hands in that. the ball floating forward concept relates to coming out of the hands backward and the players momentum transfering to the ball carrying forward - not a loose pass that goes forward from the momentum the ball already has. 100% wrong call i thought.

that said hayne was head and shoulders above everyone in that blues team.

1. Passing backwards and "floating forwards" is a union thing, not a league thing. In league the ball needs to go from backwards from the person who passed it to the person who receives it. No floating forwards (it can hit the ground and then roll forward and be deemed ok).

2. I agree on Hayne stepping on the touchline - it certainly looked like he did. But wasn't it magic the way he played Slater for a fool to plant the ball so easily in the corner! I must admit I would've been filthy had the QLDers been given that same try. But then again they got a try from the "obstruction penalty" against Folau that appeared out of Mal Meningas pre-match whinging. Shocking.

3. The pass was 2m forward and it's ridiculous that video refs can't rule on that - but oh well!

 

[strider]

i thought league had the same interpretation of the ball coming out of the hands backwards as union ... well they always bang on about it as if it applies in league too

 

[spiderdan]

i thought league had the same interpretation of the ball coming out of the hands backwards as union ... well they always bang on about it as if it applies in league too

that's what i thought too. they keep talking about the ball coming out of the hands backward and floating forward. makes me laugh when a player runs across field and throws a forward pass and the idiot commentators say it came out of the hands backwards but floated forward. someone should explain to these tools how basic laws of physics/momentum work.

my personal view is that the only thing that should be considered is the trajectory of the ball, regardless of momentum, hands and al that bullsh*t. keep it simple and you'll get more decisions right. enough with the interpretation of laws.

 

[Bazal]

It was clearly a NO TRY.

Her pass to Creagh was CLEARLY forward.

This isn't yet another of my posts meant to hack into HaHa at any opportunity. Tonight she was a Blue and I cheered for her every time she was involved. However, both of those situations were very clear.

This is just another case of people clearly trying to wank off HaHa any chance they get.

I completely disagree this time HJ...I thought his first try was the very reason BoTD was introduced in the first place and his hands were clearly back for the Creagh try, which is all that matters. The ball may have drifted forward but he definitely threw it back.

 

[fish eel]

I completely disagree this time HJ...I thought his first try was the very reason BoTD was introduced in the first place and his hands were clearly back for the Creagh try, which is all that matters. The ball may have drifted forward but he definitely threw it back.

Clearly, thats right, if you look at the replay and watched his hands, the ball was definately thrown backwards

 

[strider]

that's what i thought too. they keep talking about the ball coming out of the hands backward and floating forward. makes me laugh when a player runs across field and throws a forward pass and the idiot commentators say it came out of the hands backwards but floated forward. someone should explain to these tools how basic laws of physics/momentum work.

my personal view is that the only thing that should be considered is the trajectory of the ball, regardless of momentum, hands and al that bullsh*t. keep it simple and you'll get more decisions right. enough with the interpretation of laws.

yeah - tbh, its a grey rule that can easily be made black and white - i say if the ball ends up infront of where it was let go, then its f'n forward - doesn't matter if there is f'n momentum or 1,000,000km/hr winds blowing it - if he catches it further down field from where you threw it, its forward

 

[oldmancraigy]

yeah - tbh, its a grey rule that can easily be made black and white - i say if the ball ends up infront of where it was let go, then its f'n forward - doesn't matter if there is f'n momentum or 1,000,000km/hr winds blowing it - if he catches it further down field from where you threw it, its forward

I said this about 5 posts ago! Let's hope they listen to you...

That's the Rugby League rule strides! Spot on!

The ball must be received BEHIND the line it was thrown on.

Mind you, most dummy halfs make about 10 forward passes per game anyway - so it's not like they actually get called all that often.

 

[Bazal]

I said this about 5 posts ago! Let's hope they listen to you...

That's the Rugby League rule strides! Spot on!

The ball must be received BEHIND the line it was thrown on.

Mind you, most dummy halfs make about 10 forward passes per game anyway - so it's not like they actually get called all that often.

Incorrect, as far as I know. The ball has to be thrown backwards but can drift forward. I'll dig out my rule book when I get off work tonight but I'm certain that's the case

 

[Parra Steve]

Good to see him smash slater, even if the dopy touchy said slater was put in a dangerous position wtf?

 

[PJ Marshal]

Being a qualified referee/coach/pretty awesome person i can confirm

you are correct bazal

 

[oldmancraigy]

Incorrect, as far as I know. The ball has to be thrown backwards but can drift forward. I'll dig out my rule book when I get off work tonight but I'm certain that's the case

Ok - checked the rule book:


Direction of Pass

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1. The direction of a pass is relative to the player making it and not to the actual path relative to the ground. A player running towards his opponents’ goal line may throw the ball towards a colleague who is behind him but because of the thrower’s own momentum the ball travels forward relative to the ground. This is not a forward pass as the thrower has not passed the ball forward in relation to himself. This is particularly noticeable when a running player makes a high, lobbed pass.​

Looks like I'm wrong! Must be "thrown backwards" but players momentum can carry it forward.
The bit at the end there seems to sum up the Hayne to Creagh pass pretty well... he floated it back in-field, Hayne ends up almost dead in-goal and Creagh gets the ball and scores.​

So it was a completely fair try.​

 

[Twizzle]

1. Passing backwards and "floating forwards" is a union thing, not a league thing. In league the ball needs to go from backwards from the person who passed it to the person who receives it. No floating forwards (it can hit the ground and then roll forward and be deemed ok).

2. I agree on Hayne stepping on the touchline - it certainly looked like he did. But wasn't it magic the way he played Slater for a fool to plant the ball so easily in the corner! I must admit I would've been filthy had the QLDers been given that same try. But then again they got a try from the "obstruction penalty" against Folau that appeared out of Mal Meningas pre-match whinging. Shocking.

3. The pass was 2m forward and it's ridiculous that video refs can't rule on that - but oh well!

Finally some sanity

Everyone wants to bag Harrigan because Hayne is so precious, or in Gus's words, it deserved a try. Lets just throw the rule book out then.

I didn't see what BOD has to do with a guy touching the side line, as soon as I saw the replay I thougth is was no try. All he had to do is touch the sideline, which he did.

And the one the Creagh scored was a metre forward, yet they paid it, go figure. The third umpire cant rule on the forward pas, so why have one.

Forward passes are very common, mainly from the dummy half, nothing to do with floating forward as the dummy half is stationary. They just dont penalise it anymore for some stupid reason.

 

[Snoochies]

No he doesn't.

Unfortunately Kidley is the NSW captain, and they won't change the side.

Completely sucks because Kids has looked decidedly ordinary at the Origin level while Hayne has consistently looked the goods.

Little Gidley is a real tryer, but just doesn't deliver at that level.

I am 100% certain that if Brett Stewart was fit, he would be playing fullback, why? Because Brett Stewart is the better fullback, so yes if Hayne is shown to be the better fullback, he will no doubt be the fullback. Where would Gidley play had Brett Stewart been playing?

 

[Stagger eel]

I am 100% certain that if Brett Stewart was fit, he would be playing fullback, why? Because Brett Stewart is the better fullback, so yes if Hayne is shown to be the better fullback, he will no doubt be the fullback. Where would Gidley play had Brett Stewart been playing?

at 6 and captain.

 

[fish eel]

Finally some sanity

Everyone wants to bag Harrigan because Hayne is so precious, or in Gus's words, it deserved a try. Lets just throw the rule book out then.

I didn't see what BOD has to do with a guy touching the side line, as soon as I saw the replay I thougth is was no try. All he had to do is touch the sideline, which he did.

you've better eyes than Harrigan then who had to watch it 8 o 9 times

And the one the Creagh scored was a metre forward, yet they paid it, go figure. The third umpire cant rule on the forward pas, so why have one.

Forward passes are very common, mainly from the dummy half, nothing to do with floating forward as the dummy half is stationary. They just dont penalise it anymore for some stupid reason.

It finished forward but was passed backwards. Watch a replay and watch the direction of the ball when it leaves his hands.