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Hayne signs with Gold Coast

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East Coast Tiger is absolute rare form here

Why would Hayne have to seek clearance from a club he has absolutely no legal obligation to? This is madness
Because that's the rule. Every player and every club at every level have to do the same. The majority of rugby league players in this country have "no legal obligation" to their club, but if they want to change clubs they need a clearance.
 

BM1979

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The Titans have to make the 8 first & then they have to win week 1.

I'm not worried about anyone outside the top 4 as they are there for a reason...& we won 15 straight for a reason.

It's not fair for teams competing with the Titans for positions in the bottom of the 8.

Why is it not fair ?

Clubs have had to play Parra at full strength and some twice before they lost any players. That is not really fair either and could influence the final ladder but shit happens

The Titans have had some bad luck the past couple of years with DCE , Roberts and then losing Elgey at the start of the year. It's good to see them playing well on the field and then getting a big name aswell.
 

WaznTheGreat

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The Titans have to make the 8 first & then they have to win week 1.

I'm not worried about anyone outside the top 4 as they are there for a reason...& we won 15 straight for a reason.

It's not fair for teams competing with the Titans for positions in the bottom of the 8.

Sharks are on fire but Hayne is def gonna spite some good team in the finals,i feel it will be either the Sharks or the Raiders,one of those two will feel his wrath.

Hayne spiting either Paul Gallen or Ricky Stuart is written in the stars.
 

Card Shark

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I have nothing against the Titans, it's great that he's joined a lowly club, not Parramatta.

He's a superstar of NRL, not an ex-NFL / Rugby 7s player. If my team was competing for a top 8 position with the Titans & all of a sudden they picked up 1 of the best players the NRL has seen in the last 10 years, outside previously accepted guidelines, I'd be dirty.
 

Card Shark

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Sharks are on fire but Hayne is def gonna spite some good team in the finals,i feel it will be either the Sharks or the Raiders,one of those two will feel his wrath.

Hayne spiting either Paul Gallen or Ricky Stuart is written in the stars.

Hayne always gives us trouble but the last time we will meet the Titans was Monday night.
 

mxlegend99

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NRL National Clearance and Permits Policy

2 a. A clearance is required when a player and match official is moving from one Club/Association to another regardless of whether it is a new season or during a season

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3 A Clearance may be initiated from the 1 November to 30 June within the same season


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He is moving from one club to another. It is after June 30.

Unlike the registration rules there are no clauses allowing for associations to alter these rules.
It clearly states moving from one club to another... and that is not what Hayne has done.
He left the Eels nearly 2 years ago and has whored himself out since then.

It is from one club... to another sport (NFL)... to a third sport (7s)... back to his original sport at another club and in that period of time his contract had expired anyway.

Although it's all irrelevant since the second his contract expired he ceased to be an NRL player or a Parramatta Eels player... and not being either also means the one club to another club thing clearly doesn't apply to him.

You're really grasping at straws trying to make it fit here.
 
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It clearly states moving from one club to another... and that is not what Hayne has done.
He left the Eels nearly 2 years ago and has whored himself out since then.

It is from one club... to another sport (NFL)... to a third sport (7s)... back to his original sport at another club and in that period of time his contract had expired anyway.

Although it's all irrelevant since the second his contract expired he ceased to be an NRL player or a Parramatta Eels player... and not being either also means the one club to another club thing clearly doesn't apply to him.
No. That's crap. He is moving from Parra to Gold Coast. The fact he played other sports in between does not change that under the rules. There is nothing in the rules that states anything about contracts or other sports or time periods. It's all irrelevant, and rightly so. There are blokes who play more than one sport every weekend. It doesn't mean they can just avoid the clearance rule any time they like by saying they aren't rugby league players anymore. Most also don't have contracts so that doesn't mean they can ignore the rules. And blokes often miss a year or two before playing again. That also doesn't preclude them from the rules.

As far as rugby league is concerned, Hayne's last game was for Parramatta, he now wants to play for another club, he needs a clearance.
 

Card Shark

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I played for a club & gave the game away.

A few years later when an old mate coached a rival team, I signed up with them...after getting the clearance from my original club.
 

Frank_Grimes

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NRL National Clearance and Permits Policy

2 a. A clearance is required when a player and match official is moving from one Club/Association to another regardless of whether it is a new season or during a season

And

3 A Clearance may be initiated from the 1 November to 30 June within the same season


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He is moving from one club to another. It is after June 30.

Unlike the registration rules there are no clauses allowing for associations to alter these rules.

As Hayne is currently an unregistered player, the June 30 deadline does not apply to any contract of his.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...d/news-story/55518548f32394b84b83c197bf9268a9
 
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I get it you have NFI. Bitter much?
He doesn't need a clearance,he's not contracted to an NRL club.He's a free agent ,who can be contracted after 30th June.Greenberg spelt it out clearly.
No you don't get it. You don't get much at all.

Contracts have nothing to do with the rule, there is no such thing is a free agent in the rules of rugby league and he needs a clearance to switch clubs but it's too late.

But of course you'll lap up anything Greenberg says. No shock there.

And you're just following me around now because I've made you look like a clown elsewhere. And you call me bitter. Lol.
 

Card Shark

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I get it you have NFI. Bitter much?
He doesn't need a clearance,he's not contracted/registered to an NRL club.He's a free agent ,who can be contracted after 30th June.Greenberg spelt it out clearly.

What did Greenberg have to say about it?

If he's making comment about changing the application of rules in the game, he should be commenting about the bunker & MRC / Judiciary & answering what the hell is happening there.
 

mxlegend99

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As far as rugby league is concerned, Hayne's last game was for Parramatta, he now wants to play for another club, he needs a clearance.
No... only you think that's what Hayne is doing. You filled in these rules with fictional ideas that other sports and contracts don't matter.

Here on planet earth he isn't an Eels player and hasn't been in over 2 years. Those rules are clearly about a player moving from one club directly to another, and in that situation a player is moving from one contract to another.

He had no contract. Therefore he had no association to a club for that rule to apply to him.

You can try and twist this all you want. But the reasoning for his contract being registered has already been explained by the CEO.
 

nick87

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Because that's the rule. Every player and every club at every level have to do the same. The majority of rugby league players in this country have "no legal obligation" to their club, but if they want to change clubs they need a clearance.


Right
So if the Raiders wanted to sign me to a contract today I need a clearance from the St Clair Comets since I last played for them in 2001?
 

Card Shark

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No. He meets the registration rules. He meets the contract rules. But he does not meet the clearance rules. He needs a clearance. And it's too late to get one.

I'm not sure if the clearance system applies to NRL players but with the advent of the commission everyone plays in the NRL now, so rules should be from the bottom to the top.

Clearances are used to ensure players don't owe their old club $ or anything else outstanding I believe. Surely someone in here knows more about them.
 

mxlegend99

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No. He meets the registration rules. He meets the contract rules. But he does not meet the clearance rules. He needs a clearance. And it's too late to get one.
The rule that you are grasping at straws to say he hasn't met....

It's already done and the rule you claim is being broken clearly doesnt apply to him... and more importantly it would be f**king stupid for it to apply to players without a contract.
 

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