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Hayne signs with Gold Coast

Aus_Dog

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Meh I would not care if we lost Hayne TBH or anyone else. I am ok with it as long as the next time it happens they are consistent with the ruling.
Rugby League is an entertainment business, we need the best players for the best entertainment.

Petty rules that don't need to be invoked should not be if it will be to the detriment to the sport. Having Hayne in the game is good for Rugby League, and even if it means bypassing some little rule that really has no effect on anyone then I am all for it.

Either way, as another poster said, if it was such a big deal then the Eels would be screaming Blue Murder right now.
 

Danish

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I don't know. Perhaps you should ask the NRL who wrote the National Clearance and Permits Policy. But then again, that's not an "amateur rule". It's the NATIONAL policy.

i see nowhere that states that policy applies to the NRL (and I suspect it doesn't), but if you really want to argue the toss, how do you know that the eels and Titans haven't agreed to a permit for the rest of this season? The policy to are clinging so hard to states those can be applied for at any point of the season.

The policy also doesn't state how long a player registration lasts to a particular club. Hayne may have already completed some step when leaving the eels early that covered this whole thing.

Until you can actually provide some details about why the NRL competition specifically doesn't allow this move you are just arguing over garbage
 

davi

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Hayne is the equivalent of wally lewis when gold coast signed him up.... history always repeats itself.

Gordan Tallis suggested Gold Coast biggest signing since Wally Lewis signed with the Seagulls in 1991. The Lewis comparison couldn't be anymore completely different. Lewis was in his twilight years when he signed with the Seagulls. Seagulls roster were terrible and were always going to be terrible as they couldn't compete with the richer clubs. Jarrod Hayne will never have the stature of Wally Lewis. But he certainly has more good years left then Lewis did at this point of his career, and the team he will be playing for will be more competitive then Lewis had at the Seagulls. By saying that Titans were predicted to get the wooden spoon this year, this squad is overachieving.
 

Cumberland Throw

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Did anyone watch the full press conference ?

it started with this big intro about how a company, private flights (or something similar) , owned by Trip a Deal, helped to make this dream of signing Hayne a reality...

That screams to me, that Trip a Deal are paying Jarryd a 3rd party deal on top of his contract..

As you will see on the back of their jersey Trip a Deal is a direct sponsor of the club, and has a current relationship, hence,

How is this any different to what Parramatta were doing ?
 

BM1979

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Rugby League is an entertainment business, we need the best players for the best entertainment.

Petty rules that don't need to be invoked should not be if it will be to the detriment to the sport. Having Hayne in the game is good for Rugby League, and even if it means bypassing some little rule that really has no effect on anyone then I am all for it.

Either way, as another poster said, if it was such a big deal then the Eels would be screaming Blue Murder right now.

It could very well have had no detriment to anyone and I am not saying the NRL broke the rules ( I just want clarification) but say St George could not fit him under the cap this year and that is why Hayne chose Titans over them.

That is to the detriment of St George if Hayne should not have been registered this year.
 
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i see nowhere that states that policy applies to the NRL (and I suspect it doesn't), but if you really want to argue the toss, how do you know that the eels and Titans haven't agreed to a permit for the rest of this season? The policy to are clinging so hard to states those can be applied for at any point of the season.

The policy also doesn't state how long a player registration lasts to a particular club. Hayne may have already completed some step when leaving the eels early that covered this whole thing.

Until you can actually provide some details about why the NRL competition specifically doesn't allow this move you are just arguing over garbage
f**k me, what more than the national policy do you want? Now I'm supposed to prove that the national policy that itself states it is about a consistent rule across the country is what it says it is.

The clubs can't agree to a permit because that's for dual registration. So you don't even know what that is. And then you come up with a scenario in which Hayne sorted this when he left. Except that is also impossible because his new club has to seek the clearance. So you don't understand that either.

I'm not the one making unsubstantiated claims and posting conjecture. Why is it up to me to disprove this crap?
 

Aus_Dog

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It could very well have had no detriment to anyone and I am not saying the NRL broke the rules ( I just want clarification) but say St George could not fit him under the cap this year and that is why Hayne chose Titans over them.

That is to the detriment of St George if Hayne should not have been registered this year.
The Salary Cap is not a minor rule that has no effect on anyone
 

GW.

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It could very well have had no detriment to anyone and I am not saying the NRL broke the rules ( I just want clarification) but say St George could not fit him under the cap this year and that is why Hayne chose Titans over them.

That is to the detriment of St George if Hayne should not have been registered this year.
The flip side to that is Titans 'chose' to keep space I their cap, and sacrifice some quality as a result in 2015 whereas Illawarra chose to Max the cap and bleed any edge.
Titans reverse gamble paid off. Must all part of the salary cap game
 

Danish

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f**k me, what more than the national policy do you want? Now I'm supposed to prove that the national policy that itself states it is about a consistent rule across the country is what it says it is.

The clubs can't agree to a permit because that's for dual registration. So you don't even know what that is. And then you come up with a scenario in which Hayne sorted this when he left. Except that is also impossible because his new club has to seek the clearance. So you don't understand that either.

I'm not the one making unsubstantiated claims and posting conjecture. Why is it up to me to disprove this crap?


There are dozens of national and international laws of the game that do not apply to the NRL competition. Why would this not be one of them?
 

Aus_Dog

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I think ECT should start a call to arms. Organise a protest outside NRL headquarters and see how many people he can get to support him.

I am willing to bet he will be very lonely
 

GongPanther

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Sharks are on fire but Hayne is def gonna spite some good team in the finals,i feel it will be either the Sharks or the Raiders,one of those two will feel his wrath.

Hayne spiting either Paul Gallen or Ricky Stuart is written in the stars.

FMD,didn't take you long to dump Parra.
 

BM1979

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The flip side to that is Titans 'chose' to keep space I their cap, and sacrifice some quality as a result in 2015 whereas Illawarra chose to Max the cap and bleed any edge.
Titans reverse gamble paid off. Must all part of the salary cap game

After June 30 though players are not normally added to squads
 
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There are dozens of national and international laws of the game that do not apply to the NRL competition. Why would this not be one of them?
It could be, but it isn't. The NRL wrote the policy and it does not allow for competitions to make their own rules.

The international laws relate to game rules and obviously allow associations to implement their own changes and interpretations. Simple.

Game rules don't need to be consistent across the board and arguably shouldn't be. But the very first thing this policy says is that its aim is to provide a consistent rule across Australia.
 

GongPanther

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What a f##king dog!!!

(Psst...hey...Rhyno!....mention to everybody in here how Hayne signed a letter agreeing that if he did come back to RL,it would be with Parramatta.I don't know if he did or not sign it,or if it would add weight to East Coast Tiger's argument,but for the sake of you getting one in against Hayne,throw that bone in and see how much it gets chewed up) lol.
 

Azz

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f**k me, what more than the national policy do you want?

In order to understand the situation, you'd need the full set of contracts between the relevant parties. Nothing stops a party that implements a policy from contracting out of it, even if the policy doesn't expressly state that you can. Doing so might lead to a claim that the policy maker is being inconsistent, but wouldn't necessarily invalidate the contract, and wouldn't necessarily give an aggrieved bystander standing to challenge the situation where the policy wasn't complied with.

But in any event, just happy that he's back in the comp - surely we can all agree the game is better off with Hayne than we would be without him
 

jk13

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The eels aren't jumping up and down because they want a balanced side without a 1.2m player. They only had to do that for Foran because his tpa's were forced under the cap.
 
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