Hayne the 2 million dollar man

[jimmythehand]

Can I please just receive a bit of credit for the entertainment in this thread I created by baiting Gaba?

 

[Gaba]

no it just shows you dogs fans are only interested in sniffing out trouble

 

[Paullyboy]

It's very satisfying to be a Bulldogs fans knowing that the administration completely changed the culture of players bought spent wisely and got it right.

Especially after a number of their 'home grown' stars had walked out on the club leaving them hung out to try.

You'll be waiting a lot longer than 10 years for a team working its way up together to win a comp - that's a thing of the past. Get a grip on reality!

In that case I'll happily keep waiting. The day the Raiders go out and try to buy a whole bunch of first grade players from other clubs is the day my enjoyment in watching them will diminish. I honestly hope that day never comes. A team like the Broncos (and this is burning me to say as I HATE the Broncos) I can understand their fans enjoying a premiership - but the Roosters and now the Bulldogs, I honestly pity them. The soul has been sucked out of their club for a quick fix.

 

[butchmcdick]

In that case I'll happily keep waiting. The day the Raiders go out and try to buy a whole bunch of first grade players from other clubs is the day my enjoyment in watching them will diminish. I honestly hope that day never comes. A team like the Broncos (and this is burning me to say as I HATE the Broncos) I can understand their fans enjoying a premiership - but the Roosters and now the Bulldogs, I honestly pity them. The soul has been sucked out of their club for a quick fix.

So the Raiders buy a few players and win the comp. Are you telling me if this happens you will refuse to watch it or celebrate the win ? Come on.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

In that case I'll happily keep waiting. The day the Raiders go out and try to buy a whole bunch of first grade players from other clubs is the day my enjoyment in watching them will diminish. I honestly hope that day never comes. A team like the Broncos (and this is burning me to say as I HATE the Broncos) I can understand their fans enjoying a premiership - but the Roosters and now the Bulldogs, I honestly pity them. The soul has been sucked out of their club for a quick fix.

Great attitude and I totally agree. The games support was based on tribalism and thats been lost by some clubs. Dont get me wrong, i will support any player wearing the Blue and Gold, but I would rather watch Daniel Mortimer play for us then Darren Lockyer. We could buy half our team, but aslong as we keep producing players too, it seems fair. Watching Kris Keating make his debut for Parra is special because we have been watching him come through the grades and always knew he was going to make it. Same with Jarryd Hayne, Krisnan Inu and Feleti Mateo.

I look at the Roosters and see a kid Ben Jones who can really make an impact for them at five eight, but now that they have signed Todd Carney and have Anasta and Pearce on long term deals, whats going to happen to Ben Jones who is a good prospect.

 

[jk13]

gaba, stick to spooning blow up dolls. nows theres one subject no one is going to question your expertise on.

 

[Tom Ace]

Great attitude and I totally agree. The games support was based on tribalism and thats been lost by some clubs. Dont get me wrong, i will support any player wearing the Blue and Gold, but I would rather watch Daniel Mortimer play for us then Darren Lockyer. We could buy half our team, but aslong as we keep producing players too, it seems fair. Watching Kris Keating make his debut for Parra is special because we have been watching him come through the grades and always knew he was going to make it. Same with Jarryd Hayne, Krisnan Inu and Feleti Mateo.

I look at the Roosters and see a kid Ben Jones who can really make an impact for them at five eight, but now that they have signed Todd Carney and have Anasta and Pearce on long term deals, whats going to happen to Ben Jones who is a good prospect.

He was re-signed a month or two ago to a 3 or 4 year deal, so there is obviously a plan in place where he is involved.

And your theories are all well and good for teams like yours with massive junior bases to pick from. Not so handy when you have a tiny amount of kids to pick from like the Roosters.

Despite that, we have a large amount of kids playing in first grade now who have come through our junior grades in one form or another.

So while your theory may of been correct for a period, but it's not really accurate anymore.

 

[mickdo]

He was re-signed a month or two ago to a 3 or 4 year deal, so there is obviously a plan in place where he is involved.

By a different coach

 

[sooperdooper]

In that case I'll happily keep waiting. The day the Raiders go out and try to buy a whole bunch of first grade players from other clubs is the day my enjoyment in watching them will diminish. I honestly hope that day never comes. A team like the Broncos (and this is burning me to say as I HATE the Broncos) I can understand their fans enjoying a premiership - but the Roosters and now the Bulldogs, I honestly pity them. The soul has been sucked out of their club for a quick fix.

i totally agree and understand what your saying

but

i beleive some signings are necessary shillington, logan. learoyd lahrs etc is an example for you guys

 

[Tom Ace]

By a different coach

No. Smith had signed previous to Jones signing.

So he would of had a say in whether he was signed or not.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

He was re-signed a month or two ago to a 3 or 4 year deal, so there is obviously a plan in place where he is involved.

And your theories are all well and good for teams like yours with massive junior bases to pick from. Not so handy when you have a tiny amount of kids to pick from like the Roosters.

Despite that, we have a large amount of kids playing in first grade now who have come through our junior grades in one form or another.

So while your theory may of been correct for a period, but it's not really accurate anymore.

If its changed, why sign Todd Carney? Why not develop Ben Jones. What person from Roosters management allowed you to sign 3 first grade halves (Pearce, Anasta and Carney) and yet keep Ben Jones aswell? Same person that thought it would be best to sign a kid with a terrible alchohol problem, to a club whose reputation is also currently terrible due to alchohol.

When the Doggies had on and off field problems, they bit the bullet and cleaned out the club of its problem players. Parra now no longer have their main trouble makers in Tim Smith (although it appears he might be back), Mark Riddell and Brett Finch. The Roosters on the other hand appear to be moving backwards and signing more trouble.

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

Couldn't agree more. I honestly dont understand how any Bulldogs fan could properly enjoy this year all that much, they have just bought everyone. It's why I never understood the logic behind supporting the Roosters - you just have no connection with the players whatsoever, the vast majority are at your club for a few years and then off to their 5th or 6th club once it's time to sign a new contract.

I'd much rather wait another 10 years for the Raiders to win a premiership with a team that works its way up together than us go for the quick fix and buy a premiership next year.

We have been here longer than anyone else.. We have a real history unlike a team like the Raiders who bent over unlubed to take the Superleague cash which they needed after cheating on the salary cap to win those premierships in the early 1990's..

Most of our First Grade squad have played for no other club other than the Roosters.. We have had more Australian internationals than any other club.. Maybe in 50 or so years your club will have a real identity but I doubt it.

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

In that case I'll happily keep waiting. The day the Raiders go out and try to buy a whole bunch of first grade players from other clubs is the day my enjoyment in watching them will diminish. I honestly hope that day never comes. A team like the Broncos (and this is burning me to say as I HATE the Broncos) I can understand their fans enjoying a premiership - but the Roosters and now the Bulldogs, I honestly pity them. The soul has been sucked out of their club for a quick fix.

You wouldn't even know what soul was lol.. you are the one I feel sorry for.

 

[Paullyboy]

The Sydney Roosters have been around for that long? Come on, you change your name every time a marketing guru tells you it's a good idea. There is no soul in the Roosters, or Eastern Suburbs, or Sydney, or Sydney City or whatever you'll be called next.

Having said that, I didnt start this with the intention of attacking the Roosters, so I'll try not to get this too far off track.

With respect to the comment on the previous page - I am well aware that clubs will sign other players, it's when a club is dominated by players who made their name elsewhere that I cant fathom being a supporter of.

As for the age-old "we have no juniors" defence - why not lay claim to a nice patch of dirt in QLD and put some effort in there. You'll get more quality players coming out of central/western QLD or parts of NZ than most people probably realise. That way you can develop your own players and maybe understand the argument I'm trying to make.

 

[jimmythehand]

paullyboy you need a good dosage of reality. The world has changed. Sport is a business. How many of your Raiders team truly come from Canberra? You'll turn a blind eye to juniors coming from elsewhere so why not turn a blind eye to any other player coming from elsewhere? Juniors make a name for themselves in their own ranks before you buy them. pot ... kettle...

 

[thermos]

Long time lurker, first time poster here.

I was having a beer with a parra fan today and while I was on my 8 or 9th schooner he developed uncontrolable hiccups and asked me to do something scary. My mind boggled a bit because, well I'm just not into that sort of thing. Anyway, he was only on his 4th or 5th schooner so I played along. 8 or 9 schooners will do that.

Anyway, as something scary I reminded him that yes, hayne has "agreed to terms" on a $500k deal for 4 years, but he won't sign a contract just yet, at least until next week I think I read. I thought that's odd as the GF would be another week later after that.

As a somewhat embarrased Manly fan, I suggested, well, Brett Stewart goes back to court next week, 28th I think. If he were found guilty I wouldn't be surprised if the club cut him, freeing up several hundreds and that Hayne would be Manly's #1 when his time is up at Parra. Scary thought.

And not necessarily a good thing either - I wish we could give back that dopey Williams bloke, although at least he can say he won a GF this year.

Sorry for the long winded first post, but you know what several schooners do. And in the end his hiccups came back too. We need more schooners.

Can pisshead theories come true?

 

[Tom Ace]

If its changed, why sign Todd Carney? Why not develop Ben Jones. What person from Roosters management allowed you to sign 3 first grade halves (Pearce, Anasta and Carney) and yet keep Ben Jones aswell? Same person that thought it would be best to sign a kid with a terrible alchohol problem, to a club whose reputation is also currently terrible due to alchohol.

When the Doggies had on and off field problems, they bit the bullet and cleaned out the club of its problem players. Parra now no longer have their main trouble makers in Tim Smith (although it appears he might be back), Mark Riddell and Brett Finch. The Roosters on the other hand appear to be moving backwards and signing more trouble.

Well, the Carney drinking issue is a completely different discussion so i'm not going to bother with that now.

As for the other point. No-one other than Brian Smith knows how we will be using the halves next year. So until next season comes around that question is irrelevant. He may use him as an impact player off the bench, keep him in the centres for a while longer, move Carney to fullback and play Jones in 5/8...anything.

 

[Paullyboy]

paullyboy you need a good dosage of reality. The world has changed. Sport is a business. How many of your Raiders team truly come from Canberra? You'll turn a blind eye to juniors coming from elsewhere so why not turn a blind eye to any other player coming from elsewhere? Juniors make a name for themselves in their own ranks before you buy them. pot ... kettle...

I'll give you a few minutes to go back and read what I said, because clearly you either didn't read it or have a poor ability to comprehend what you've read.

Right, now that you are back, you'll have noticed that I never talked about where juniors coming from as being the issue. The issue is clubs who sign an absolute swag of established first graders from other clubs, and do so on an annual basis creating a revolving door. How could you honestly cheer for one of these players knowing a year ago he was at a rival club and in 2 years he'll be at another rival club? Makes no sense to me and is one of the reasons I never understood how anyone supports Chelsea or Man Utd or any of the big soccer teams.

 

[Perth Red]

Lot of money for someone who has only been great for one season.

 

[jimmythehand]

I'll give you a few minutes to go back and read what I said, because clearly you either didn't read it or have a poor ability to comprehend what you've read.

Right, now that you are back, you'll have noticed that I never talked about where juniors coming from as being the issue. The issue is clubs who sign an absolute swag of established first graders from other clubs, and do so on an annual basis creating a revolving door. How could you honestly cheer for one of these players knowing a year ago he was at a rival club and in 2 years he'll be at another rival club? Makes no sense to me and is one of the reasons I never understood how anyone supports Chelsea or Man Utd or any of the big soccer teams.

How could you honestly cheer for a player knowing that he was born in Goulburn and not Canberra?

Same sh*t, different smell.