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Hayne to the NFL???

Canard

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He's doing alot better than I expected. He's going to have to learn to step out of bounds though or he is going to get smashed!

Well done to him on getting this far.

Probably not the most difficult skill to pick up.

You could see his instinct kicking in there "Stay in!!"
 

POPEYE

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If you're allowed to throw a ball forward can they kick like Thurston or Cronk do, imagine if League players didn't have to be behind the kicker. Serious question, I can't watch NFL long enough to embrace it any more than I can a Union game
 

Danish

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If you're allowed to throw a ball forward can they kick like Thurston or Cronk do, imagine if League players didn't have to be behind the kicker. Serious question, I can't watch NFL long enough to embrace it any more than I can a Union game


You cannot recover the ball from a kick unless the opposition touches the ball first, so attacking kicks are impossible.

They are legal in Canadian football, although aren't done too often (as are Union/league-style field goals)
 

Maximus

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We have to take some pride in the athleticism of RL players. They train and play at a world class standard and our standout players have proven they can play at the top level of just about every other contact sport, plus AFL.

Where has Hayne proven he can play at the top level? If a Ron Massey cup nuffie plays well in the first NRL trial, has he proven he can play at the top level?

NFL preseason is probably less useful in judging anything than our preseason trials. In 2008 the Detroit Lions went 4-0 in preseason, and 0-16 in the regular season (sorry Lions fans ;-)). The Cowboys went 0-4 last year, and 12-4 in the regular season. It really isn't indicative of much.

Guys like This jerk off here are what shit me.

"Oh they are only 3rd string, what Hayne is doing isn't that amazing"

Then being totally disingenuous by comparing him to a 3rd string QB, knowing that is a total different proposition to all the other positions.


Hayne has never played the game at any level except X-box!!

What he is doing is extraordinary.

Suddenly NFL players have gone from super human athletes to "Well beyond the starting lineup they are practically geniused"

Guys like This jerk off here make IBM and Bunniesman look smart.

Too stupid to discuss the actual subject, so creates a straw man argument so he can claim that anyone who is a fan of the NFL is delusional.

Where did I say what he is doing isn't amazing? I know you are too gutless to admit you are making up shit, so I won't bother waiting for a response.

I didn't compare him to a 3rd string QB at all. Tinkler posted some garbage about him putting up NFL leading numbers in 2 games of preseason, and I posted how much that really means (and you actually proved my point by saying it is a 3rd string QB with the most passing yards).

You're out of your depth here. Maybe you should leave this discussion for the adults.
 

Canard

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Too stupid to discuss the actual subject, so creates a straw man argument so he can claim that anyone who is a fan of the NFL is delusional.

Where did I say what he is doing isn't amazing? I know you are too gutless to admit you are making up shit, so I won't bother waiting for a response.

I didn't compare him to a 3rd string QB at all. Tinkler posted some garbage about him putting up NFL leading numbers in 2 games of preseason, and I posted how much that really means (and you actually proved my point by saying it is a 3rd string QB with the most passing yards).

You're out of your depth here. Maybe you should leave this discussion for the adults.

Comparing him to a 3rd string QB is like comparing a Prop forward stats to a halfbacks. It's meaningless and in no way similar analogy.

Then you clearly try to downplay his achievements by saying how poor the opposition he was playing against is.

It's like you just cant stand that he is doing well so far, and keep trying to bignote yourself about all the incredible knowledge you have of American Football.

Mate, its 2015, in a global media era you aren't unique or special. Your just a kid who played Madden a few times and suddenly think your a know it all.
 

Sleep

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Assuming Hayne makes the squad, could an Australian FTA network pick up 49ers games for broadcast?

7mate already broadcasts three games live back to back to back on a Monday Morning and gets either the Monday night or Thursday night game. Can't remember which. All the playoffs are live and FTA as well.
 

Vic Mackey

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Where has Hayne proven he can play at the top level? If a Ron Massey cup nuffie plays well in the first NRL trial, has he proven he can play at the top level?

NFL preseason is probably less useful in judging anything than our preseason trials. In 2008 the Detroit Lions went 4-0 in preseason, and 0-16 in the regular season (sorry Lions fans ;-)). The Cowboys went 0-4 last year, and 12-4 in the regular season. It really isn't indicative of much.



Guys like This jerk off here make IBM and Bunniesman look smart.

Too stupid to discuss the actual subject, so creates a straw man argument so he can claim that anyone who is a fan of the NFL is delusional.

Where did I say what he is doing isn't amazing? I know you are too gutless to admit you are making up shit, so I won't bother waiting for a response.

I didn't compare him to a 3rd string QB at all. Tinkler posted some garbage about him putting up NFL leading numbers in 2 games of preseason, and I posted how much that really means (and you actually proved my point by saying it is a 3rd string QB with the most passing yards).

You're out of your depth here. Maybe you should leave this discussion for the adults.

Translation:

I'm one of those smug wankers who think NFL players are gods and am hoping like hell Hayne fails.

Nobody on here is saying he is going to be the MVP and we know there's a massive way to go. However to say what he is doing isn't impressive only makes you look like a fckwit. As I said previously it's not like he is playing against guys they've picked out of the crowd. Even if they are 2nd, 3rd string line ups they are guys making a living out of the sport they've played their whole lives being carved up by a guy who less then a year ago hadn't even held an NFL ball.
 
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Desert Qlder

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7mate already broadcasts three games live back to back to back on a Monday Morning and gets either the Monday night or Thursday night game. Can't remember which. All the playoffs are live and FTA as well.

But I am talking exclusive SF games, just so Hayne is broadcast into Australia. I would imagine the ratings would justify the cost and effort.

Which American network does Seven take its games from?
 

Hutty1986

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Translation:

I'm one of those smug wankers who think NFL players are gods and am hoping like hell Hayne fails.

Nobody on here is saying he is going to be the MVP and we know there's a massive way to go. However to say what he is doing isn't impressive only makes you look like a fckwit. As I said previously it's not like he is playing against guys they've picked out of the crowd. Even if they are 2nd, 3rd string line ups they are guys making a living out of the sport they've played their whole lives being carved up by a guy who less then a year ago hadn't even held an NFL ball.

:lol: That sums them up well, though there seems to be less of them at the moment. He will most likely make the squad from here, and he's shown he's worth a lot more than just novelty value. He will continue to get better and may get a few years out of it.
 

Pig Champion

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Just had a look on the 49ers fan forum at their Hayne thread. Understandably there is a lot of technical talk I don't get but sadly there are VFL fans trying to push how tough or skilful their game is, they truly are a sad bunch of merkins.
 

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Hayne is a freak & would likely succeed at anything he wants to. He will come back to Australia after reinventing the NFL & Damien Oliver will ride him to victory in the Melbourne Cup.
 

DiegoNT

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Just had a look on the 49ers fan forum at their Hayne thread. Understandably there is a lot of technical talk I don't get but sadly there are VFL fans trying to push how tough or skilful their game is, they truly are a sad bunch of merkins.

'Hey look at us, we are relevant to!'
 

Vic Mackey

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Just had a look on the 49ers fan forum at their Hayne thread. Understandably there is a lot of technical talk I don't get but sadly there are VFL fans trying to push how tough or skilful their game is, they truly are a sad bunch of merkins.

It's pretty hilarious. On my Facebook there's AFL fans hijacking posts about Hayne saying if he can do it imagine how good 'insert afl player that ive never heard of' would be.
 

Maximus

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Comparing him to a 3rd string QB is like comparing a Prop forward stats to a halfbacks. It's meaningless and in no way similar analogy.

Again, where am I comparing them? There is not a single part of any post I have made that is comparing Landry Jones with Jarryd Hayne. Cut the straw man shit.

But lets say I was comparing them. We'll forget the preseason passing yards stat and look at preseason rushing yards since that is what Hayne is 2nd in. The top 50 (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...263-s=RUSHING_YARDS&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1) has 4 starters (Lacy in 22nd, Ivory 27th, Murray 35th and Morris 39th). That's it. Of the top 10, Hillman, Gray and Jones are 2nd-3rd string, Taylor is a QB, and Robinson might be 4th string. The rest are 5th or worse, and the rest of the top 20 isn't much better.

So now that we are comparing the same positions, am I now allowed to say that preseason stats are worthless, or do you still think they are indicative of what is going to happen in the regular season?

Then you clearly try to downplay his achievements by saying how poor the opposition he was playing against is.

Being realistic isn't downplaying his achievements. Since when has considering the strength of the opposition been frowned upon like this? So if a full-strength Cowboys team play a trial against a QLD cup side and win by 50, you are telling me that is equal to beating the Roosters full-strength NRL side by 50? Surely talking about how poor the QLD cup side is is just downplaying their achievements so it can't be done according to you?

Translation:

I'm one of those smug wankers who think NFL players are gods and am hoping like hell Hayne fails.

Can you please tell me which part of my posts said that? Please I would really like to know.

However to say what he is doing isn't impressive only makes you look like a fckwit.

This part as well. Like the other gutless merkin, I expect you will fail.

Oh and before you quote me saying preseason stats are meaningless, don't bother. That isn't saying what he is doing isn't impressive, that is saying it is f**king preseason.
 

Canard

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But lets say I was comparing them. We'll forget the preseason passing yards stat and look at preseason rushing yards since that is what Hayne is 2nd in. The top 50 (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...263-s=RUSHING_YARDS&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1) has 4 starters (Lacy in 22nd, Ivory 27th, Murray 35th and Morris 39th). That's it. Of the top 10, Hillman, Gray and Jones are 2nd-3rd string, Taylor is a QB, and Robinson might be 4th string. The rest are 5th or worse, and the rest of the top 20 isn't much better.

So now that we are comparing the same positions, am I now allowed to say that preseason stats are worthless, or do you still think they are indicative of what is going to happen in the regular season?



Being realistic isn't downplaying his achievements. Since when has considering the strength of the opposition been frowned upon like this? So if a full-strength Cowboys team play a trial against a QLD cup side and win by 50, you are telling me that is equal to beating the Roosters full-strength NRL side by 50? Surely talking about how poor the QLD cup side is is just downplaying their achievements so it can't be done according to you?

That is not even close to a proper analogy.

If a team that had never played League before, came up against a Cowboys reserves team and only lost by 50, that would impressive.

Just as it would be if an individual whose only exposure to the game was playing NRL Live on the X-box made several line breaks and looked comfortable against the opposition.

Much like what Hayne is doing.

You keep using this line that because he is playing against guys who aren't starters in the NFL, his achievements thus far aren't that impressive.

It's just total bullshit. You seem to be struggling with the fact that Hayne may make it at NFL level.
 

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I was very sceptical of his chances when he announced it but now imo he is making it for sure, why wouldn't they sign him? He is exceeding everyones wildest expectations so far and has created buzz even in the states, they are already selling his jersey aren't they? And the buzz is a welcome distraction from the 49ers many other struggles, he is a PR dream at the moment, complete underdog story and he is an Aussie which they love in the states. On top of that NFL contracts are not guaranteed so there is barely any risk, they can terminate the contract whenever they want I think.
 
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