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Hitman: Absolution

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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/374322/first-hitman-absolution-review-opm-goes-with-910/

OPM and OXM both give Hitman Absolution 9/10 - OPM calls it Hitman perfected... best in the series...

Bulldog_Force you might want to grab a change of pants buddy...

Having said that anybody else find it hard to trust month early print reviews for Triple A titles as much as I do...
Here's the thing, a 9/10 isn't exactly perfected then is it lol. Ok, because I've been waiting so long for this game though, I think I'll find the missing 1 pretty easily, but going with TT, I can't trust Triple A... BUT, the guy I spoke to from EB who told me all about it pretty much sold it for me.

I'm going to pre-order it next week, and this will be the first game I've pre-ordered since RL 2 back in 2005... that's how much I've been longing for it. I'll also get the Sniper challenge as a result, which looks mouth-watering (for a 1-stage game).

Cannot wait matty... I"ll need a change of underwear while playing it for sure :lol:
 

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Pre-order complete - let the Sniper Challenge begin!

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Gee's the Sniper Challenge isn't that easy. I mean I can complete the level no problem, but getting Silent Assassin ranking is a mission. Phew...!
 

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"Reqium" artwork - from Hitman Facebook page. I seriously cannot wait. ARRRRGH!
 

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A message to anyone who has seen the PC Gamer review for Hitman: Absolution.

The reviewer for the game gave it a 62/100, citing that it is a mess with a terrible PC port, scripted assassinations, pointless objectives, a bad art style and over-use of bloom, small levels, no saving and bad AI.

Now, let us look at the actual facts;

1) The PC preview and review builds of the game work perfectly for reviewers using older computers, with no lag or graphical issues whatsoever.

2) The 'scripted assassinations' are not in the game. It is the same as Blood Money, where the AI reacts in certain ways to the assassination of targets.

3) The 'pointless objectives' noted by the reviewer refer to 'opening doors' - this is again a misconception as at the end of every Hitman level throughout the series, the player has to find an exit point to complete the mission. A big part of a 'hit' is to escape undetected.

4) Whilst the appraisal of the visuals is purely based upon conjecture, to say the game is ugly is laughable.

5) Small levels may appear in the game but, as an anonymous reviewer has pointed out, this matters little as there are over 50 stages in the game. The PC Gamer review also fails to mention that small levels were very much a part of Blood Money as well, and that Absolution has well over triple the amount of stages Blood Money did.

6) The 'no saves' issue is also a falsehood - save games are allowed on the lower difficulties and disabled on the higher difficulties, much like Blood Money. Given that the reviewer often directly compares the two games, this is a laughable point.

7) The game has been stated numerous times by numerous websites and journalists to have far superior AI to what has been offered in the series previously.

8) This is what proves the reviewer is lying. He claims that the game encourages you to kill guards and that stealth is not relevant. Well, this guy won't have any credibility left once the game is released. The gameplay footage that has been released and every preview shows that killing guards WORSENS your score and makes it harder to get higher rankings. Not only that, but, again, the gameplay trailers emphasize the stealth elements of the game.

Having read a few anonymous reviewers' responses to the PC Gamer review, it is obvious that the PC Gamer reviewer likely didn't even play the game fully and his review should not be heeded. That or he played it on Easy difficulty and just rushed through it, i.e. doing the opposite of what makes Hitman games so fun. Also, given that every single other review (a 9/10 from both the Official Xbox and Official Playstation Poland magazines, and an 88/100 from Play 3) has been mostly positive and has highlighted the points the PC Gamer reviewer hated as the good points of the game....yeah. Game Informer also gave it an 8.75/10.

Just a heads up for anyone that might have been worried after reading the PC Gamer review. Apparently the reviewer in question has been criticized justifiably in the past for similar reasons.
 
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A message to anyone who has seen the PC Gamer review for Hitman: Absolution.

The reviewer for the game gave it a 62/100, citing that it is a mess with a terrible PC port, scripted assassinations, pointless objectives, a bad art style and over-use of bloom, small levels, no saving and bad AI.

Now, let us look at the actual facts;

1) The PC preview and review builds of the game work perfectly for reviewers using older computers, with no lag or graphical issues whatsoever.

2) The 'scripted assassinations' are not in the game. It is the same as Blood Money, where the AI reacts in certain ways to the assassination of targets.

3) The 'pointless objectives' noted by the reviewer refer to 'opening doors' - this is again a misconception as at the end of every Hitman level throughout the series, the player has to find an exit point to complete the mission. A big part of a 'hit' is to escape undetected.

4) Whilst the appraisal of the visuals is purely based upon conjecture, to say the game is ugly is laughable.

5) Small levels may appear in the game but, as an anonymous reviewer has pointed out, this matters little as there are over 50 stages in the game. The PC Gamer review also fails to mention that small levels were very much a part of Blood Money as well, and that Absolution has well over triple the amount of stages Blood Money did.

6) The 'no saves' issue is also a falsehood - save games are allowed on the lower difficulties and disabled on the higher difficulties, much like Blood Money. Given that the reviewer often directly compares the two games, this is a laughable point.

7) The game has been stated numerous times by numerous websites and journalists to have far superior AI to what has been offered in the series previously.

8) This is what proves the reviewer is lying. He claims that the game encourages you to kill guards and that stealth is not relevant. Well, this guy won't have any credibility left once the game is released. The gameplay footage that has been released and every preview shows that killing guards WORSENS your score and makes it harder to get higher rankings. Not only that, but, again, the gameplay trailers emphasize the stealth elements of the game.

Having read a few anonymous reviewers' responses to the PC Gamer review, it is obvious that the PC Gamer reviewer likely didn't even play the game fully and his review should not be heeded. That or he played it on Easy difficulty and just rushed through it, i.e. doing the opposite of what makes Hitman games so fun. Also, given that every single other review (a 9/10 from both the Official Xbox and Official Playstation Poland magazines, and an 88/100 from Play 3) has been mostly positive and has highlighted the points the PC Gamer reviewer hated as the good points of the game....yeah. Game Informer also gave it an 8.75/10.

Just a heads up for anyone that might have been worried after reading the PC Gamer review. Apparently the reviewer in question has been criticized justifiably in the past for similar reasons.
Oh mate, I am not worried about that reviewer or anything he says. I know that this game is going to be epic because it's been in production for 3 years, and the time frame alone means that the developers have been very precise about perfecting this game as much as possible. Not only that, but also playing the Sniper Challenge... THAT has stealth elements (as hard as it is to believe) - so considering the demo has stealth, the real deal must be stacked with it.
 

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Yeah exactly. You can tell just by watching preview videos and trailers that the guy was making stuff up - the game looks amazing. My only gripe is that reviews like this may turn some gamers off of the game - it shouldn't make too much if a difference as it is just one review, but it can affect the performance of the game financially. What we don't need is another 6-7 year wait between games lol.
 

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Yeah exactly. You can tell just by watching preview videos and trailers that the guy was making stuff up - the game looks amazing. My only gripe is that reviews like this may turn some gamers off of the game - it shouldn't make too much if a difference as it is just one review, but it can affect the performance of the game financially. What we don't need is another 6-7 year wait between games lol.
I agree with you, but that's the beauty about Youtube - you can post gameplay videos up and then people can judge for themselves :D and yeah 6-7 years is a long time between drinks for games, but I think the reason this took so long was a combination for the movie and it's sequel (apparently this games release was meant to coincide with the movie sequels release - that didn't happen), and also the fact that it's the next generation Hitman game would've meant they had to start from scratch - unlike Codename 47 - Blood Money which all ran on the same engine.
 

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Haha that was awesome! I haven't looked at anything of this game other than that really. It's looking sweet!
 

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I dont really pay much mind to reviews anymore... been doing this long enough that i know what studios and engines and IP's bring successful games to the table, but in terms of games im not sure about I just watch Giant Bomb quick looks, good for a laugh and a decent taste for the gameplay.

Purchased many a indie game on steam based on Giant Bomb quick looks...

HAHAHAHA anybody seen Conan review Skyrim... funniest shit ever.
 

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lol it's good. Is clueless gamer really the correct term for him though? ;)

Also going to pay for the game today so on Tuesday, it's simply pickup and play :D
 

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http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/882475-square-enix-green-lights-second-new-hitman-game
There's still no specific release date for Hitman: Absolution, other than at some point next year, but Square Enix has founded a second studio in Canada to work on 'a new premium quality game' in the franchise.

The new studio is called simply Square Enix Montreal and will open next year with the creation of 150 new jobs. The studio will be led by Lee Singleton, currently general manager of Square Enix London Studios. His previous game credits include Just Cause 2 and Batman: Arkham Asylum.

Hitman: Absolution is being made by series creators IO Interactive in Denmark, and this new title would be the first in the franchise not to come from them. What this might imply about their next project or the direction of the game we can only guess.

No doubt buoyed by the success of Deus Ex: Revolution, Square Enix are also creating 100 new jobs at the existing Eidos Montreal studio. They'll be 'driving work on a third AAA project at the studio, alongside the Deus Ex and Thief franchises'. As well as expanding their audio recording and motion tracking facilities.

What this third franchise could be is a mystery. It's presumably not Tomb Raider or they just would've said so, so either it's a brand new game or a revival of something more obscure in Square Enix or Eidos' back catalogue. Legacy Of Kain or Fear Effect, perhaps?

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/8...n-lights-second-new-hitman-game#ixzz2CS28icYb

http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/8...n-lights-second-new-hitman-game#ixzz2CS28icYb
 

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It's PS3 metacritic score is 87/100 based on 9 reviews.
It's Xbox 360 metacritic score is 79/100 based on 19 reviews.
No PC metacritic score as of yet.

Essentially, reaction is mostly good. Sounds like reviewers usually don't like the changes from Blood Money, i.e. the disguise system and what-not.

Eh, I'll have it tomorrow and probably give my thoughts sometime this week.
 

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I just picked up this game and touching it felt like... like... I can't describe it. I'm just so happy right now
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Also kudos to the hot gamer chick at EB George street who sold it to me... her opinion after reading the reviews, is that it's "Pretty freakin' cool!"
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its always interesting when a game can get a 6.3/10 and a 9/10...

slightly above average to one man and near on perfect to another... Also interesting when one reviewer can complain about game mechanics and AI and another say there were no issues with it.

Usually if its mechanics or AI based issues it carries across all reviews and = a shitty game...

If a few mention it but the majority dont its more so that the few who had issues werent playing the game properly...

Interested to see what camp i fall in when i eventually get it...
 

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its always interesting when a game can get a 6.3/10 and a 9/10...

slightly above average to one man and near on perfect to another... Also interesting when one reviewer can complain about game mechanics and AI and another say there were no issues with it.

Usually if its mechanics or AI based issues it carries across all reviews and = a shitty game...

If a few mention it but the majority dont its more so that the few who had issues werent playing the game properly...

Interested to see what camp i fall in when i eventually get it...

Hitman has always been a game that has polarised people. Personally I enjoyed the Hitman games on Playstation 1, but found Blood Money to be an extremely flawed experience for this generation, as such I didn't really enjoy it.

I'm keen to try Absolution though because it's always refreshing to see a game that happily shakes up the status quo for pacing and gameplay. It does look much better than Blood Money, and hopefully it has cleared up many of the polish issues that plagued it's predecessor like many reviews suggest.
 

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