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How well will Souths do in 2012

Red Bear

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Like any team a kind run with injuries is pretty vital, but I think they can definately make the top eight if they keep the forwards and Inglis on the park much of the season. As poor as Sutton was much of last year people forget he played pretty damn well the years prior to that, often it was him getting injured that saw the downturn in Souths fortunes.

Obviously rookie half is the big question. I gues there have been cases of a good forward pack making an average half look better than he is, but he'll have to have a pretty good debut year if Souths are to push any higher than 6th or so
 

BranVan3000

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We'll come out strong, everybody will be shocked, we'll win most of our first 10 games. But eventually our halves will be exposed as one dimensional, and some injuries will start to creep back in with our injury prone players. We'll look like a much better team for most of the year but our clear weakness will be in the halves. We'll be much stronger in defence however which may lead to an increase in ladder position by the year's end. 7 - 8 at best

One thing that could definitely help though this year is lack of injuries. Basically everybody is in training at the moment and out of recovery. Last year we had half the team injured or fresh off surgery in the off season. I think Burgess was only out of recovery for a few weeks before round one. And Inglis looked like the magic pudding, or like he'd eaten a hundred of them.
 
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BranVan3000

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Problem for Souths is they haven't got someone capable of being a dominant playmaker. I can't think of a team that's done well recently who didn't have a semi decent playmaker. Luke is more a running dummy half than a creative Cam Smith type, Reynolds is unproven and is coming back from a long term injury, Sutton is shit, and Merritt isn't a playmaking type of fullback. Also I think they'll miss Sandow's goalkicking, he was a genuine sharp shooter in 2011.
Sandow never did a great deal of play making anyhow. Its the reason we were more likely to score from 50 out than from 10 out. Most of our tries came through individual brilliance (sometimes Sandow, sometimes Taylor, Luke etc.) and other players backing up. We scored very few tries off kicks or structured set plays, whenever we did put a kick in it was more likely to roll into dead end than offer us an opportunity for a try or repeat set.

Yet still we managed to be one of the best attacking teams.

I think a lot of our problems were defence, coaching and fitness. For example, I was talking to one of the benchies at Souths, Jason Clark, and he said they never practised goal line defence until Maguire came. I mean that just astounded me. But it's not really surprising.
 

POPEYE

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So if the coach gets to Historic Homebush on time, Souths will have a good season?

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Young Chrissy Carol . . . still struggling I see
 

Billythekid

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I'm not sure i put as much into the loss of Sandow as some people are. Souths problem isn't really attack, it's defense and Sandow didn't exactly help much there.

I'm not saying i would tip them to make the 8 but if i don't it won't be because they lost Sandow.
 

BunniesMan

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...ws-halfback-spot/story-e6frexnr-1226224314346

2010 Toyota Cup grand final.
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In 2007 Reynolds won the Peter Sterling Medal for the Arrive Alive Cup player-of-the-year when he guided Matraville High School to the prestigious schoolboys crown
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In Reynolds' favour, say Redfern insiders, is that he's a tough little bugger and one hell of a competitor.

On top of that, he has a wonderful kicking game that could prove the real key. They are tipping Reynolds' kicking game will fit the big Souths forwards almost as well as their Armani suits.
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Maguire is transforming the Rabbitohs. What they're saying now is that the new coach has finally brought coaching to Redfern.

Like video-taping training sessions. Other clubs have been doing it for a while now, but the Bunnies have finally jumped on board.

They record every training session, and Maguire then goes over the tapes with the players before they hit the field for the following session.

They say the Bunnies have never trained harder,
The two hidden secrets we've got. A) Reynolds has been a star at every level, at schoolboys, at Toyota cup, he's going to kill it in the NRL. B) A whole new level of professionalism Maguire brings with him.

Something as basic as videotaping training. Apparently everyone else does it, we haven't done it until Maguire. One of our players also said for the first time we're practising try line defense. That was never done before Maguire.

The last couple of years the results this talented squad has gotten has been so far below potential because we've been missing a coach like Maguire.

Top 8 here we come.
 

boxhead

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Looking at what is being posted about Maguire, I'm getting a gnawing sense of deja vu - see Stephen Kearney 2011.
Unlike Kearney though Maguire does have experience coaching first-grade.
 

dogslife

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I was also getting the deja vu feeling, but I think it's because Bunniesdud said the exact same thing last year, except replace the name Reynolds with Inglis, and Maguire with Lang
 

Mr Blonde

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Dear BunniesMan, you seem to be less annoying than you have been previously, good work. I think you may have matured.

Dear Tom Shines, It's sweet how you try to endear yourself to the LOL@Souffs brigade. A little pathetic, but cute at the same time.

I award both of you B+ for effort

# bothsadcases
 
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dogslife

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Dear Mr Blonde, your 14 posts on these forums suggests you know very little about either Constable Dunniesman nor our friend Tom Shines. Tom Shines is what we on planet earth refer to as a realist, someone who has come to terms with 40 years of Souths mediocrity, but still continues to support them nevertheless. Bunniesdud is what we refer to as deluded, whose nonsensical ramblings have been a constant source of humour for the rest of the population.

I award you an F, because your life sir, is a failure.

Good day
 

Mr Blonde

Juniors
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Dear Mr Blonde, your 14 posts on these forums suggests you know very little about either Constable Dunniesman nor our friend Tom Shines. Tom Shines is what we on planet earth refer to as a realist, someone who has come to terms with 40 years of Souths mediocrity, but still continues to support them nevertheless. Bunniesdud is what we refer to as deluded, whose nonsensical ramblings have been a constant source of humour for the rest of the population.

I award you an F, because your life sir, is a failure.

Good day

Dear Dogslife,

They are both losers as far as I'm concerned.
You sound a bit loserish too.

I wish you the best & hope your life gets better. Maybe you can get laid?
 

slipperykinchela

First Grade
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The big difference to Souffs will be inglis. He knows he won't be able to stroll up to the coach and say "I've got the sniffles can I not train" & get away with it.maguire will get the best out of him.
 

boonboon

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On a serious note their playing strength has got worse but their coaching better so they will probably even out next year and finish 10th
 

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