HSC Subjects

[Eelementary]

Homersexuals are notoriously good statisticians, though. :sarcasm:

Yeah I remember briefly doing stats in Year 10 and Year 11, and then we get into uni and have to do stats.

"This will be easy as - we did it in Year 10!" we think.

We were taught so much more than we were taught in Year 10. Which is why I feel, for those interested, getting a head start on it would be beneficial.

 

[Mr. Fahrenheit]

I agree with you tbh Eele, I mean Maths have a whole faculty and only teach maths. English have a whole faculty and they have a small contingent of Drama students as well...

What Drama is for english can be Statistics for maths.

 

[Eelementary]

I agree. And to be honest, students who studied Drama for their HSC and then go to a dramatic arts school already have a head start over those that didn't and go to dramatic arts school. So why not apply the same logic for statistics? :crazy:

As you get further and further into uni, the statistics courses become specialised anyway - imagine the time and resources they'd save if they only taught specialised statistics courses because everyone already knew the big basics.

 

[strewth_mate]

This is kind of like the frustration our course convenors face. Biomedical science has 'recommended knowledge' of Chemistry, Biology and Maths, but no prerequisites for entry. So instead the first year of the course is two semesters of Chemistry, one of Maths, one of Physics, and some basic biology, physiology and statistics stuff to round it off. Nothing really relevant to the degree itself - granted, it's not a specialist degree like physiotherapy or speech pathology, but it means the first year is almost a wasted one of recapping for most.

 

[Jobdog]

It doesn't particularly matter what HSC subjects you do, the HSC isn't all its cracked up to be ;-)

 

[Mr. Fahrenheit]

ZOMG, some words of wisdom! :shock:

 

[Stonecutter]

Mine for next year.

Adv Maths
Adv English (contemplating dropping but I'm doing pretty good atm)
Biology
Chemistry

Modern History/Geography (still deciding)

And stupid Catholic Studies which doesn't go towards my UAI but I'm in a catholic school and have to do a religion so this was the biggest bludge. :x

 

[NK Arsenal]

I'm doing pre-lims at the moment.

English Standard
General Maths
Music 1
Sport Leisure Recreation (SLR)
PE
Business Services

Dropping Music 1 in a little over a term.

 

[The Devil]

Mine for next year.

Adv Maths
Adv English (contemplating dropping but I'm doing pretty good atm)
Biology
Chemistry

Modern History/Geography (still deciding)

And stupid Catholic Studies which doesn't go towards my UAI but I'm in a catholic school and have to do a religion so this was the biggest bludge. :x

You can't drop english.. unless you meant dropping to standard english. I recommend sticking with advanced english, it will get you higher scaling comparatively to standard english

 

[Hallatia]

You can't drop english.. unless you meant dropping to standard english. I recommend sticking with advanced english, it will get you higher scaling comparatively to standard english

not just that, but standard candidates cannot get 100% for the subject, not just doees it scale poorly, but the most you can get for it like 92%

 

[Eelementary]

:lol:

Love it.

 

[Hallatia]

if you do not believe me, check the standard english mark range for 2006

 

[Mr. Fahrenheit]

Locky, thats f**king ridiculous

ofcourse you can get 100... its just highly unlikely

 

[Bazal]

if you do not believe me, check the standard english mark range for 2006

Just because no one got over 92 doesn't mean that's the highest mark you can get...no one in the ACT got 100% for any subject in my year...that doesn't mean 97 was the top possible mark, just that we were geniuss

 

[Eelementary]

Actually Locky, I wasn't criticising you. I was merely laughing inwardly at people's obssessions over "scaling". There are a lot of things said about it, and in many cases, they seem foundless and/or ill-informed.

 

[Hallatia]

you can't, people try to tell you that you can, but you can't, it has been explained to me a few times but I never really cared enough to remember why, I think it has something to do with the common paper and the standard paper. In conclusion the fact that the highest standard english mark in the state last year was 92% was not a coincidence

 

[strewth_mate]

Righto, so how does 'scaling' work, if anyone would be so kind?

All I remember is teachers giving us ambiguous answers that pretty much ended with them saying something like 4u Maths will be kind to you, even if you do relatively poorly. And so a lot of people jumped on.

 

[Mr. Fahrenheit]

scaling basically just makes all subjects 'equal', like easier subjects get scaled down and harder subject get scaled up. What is hard and easy is determined by how people across the board go... THat is subject scaling, there is also school-scaling. In school scaling, they see how your school goes in the HSC exams, before they scale up or down the school's 50 marks. Some schools may offer harder assessments to distinguish between it's smarter student base, some may provide easier assessments to not discourage the students. So that aspect is neutralised by the school scaling.

 

[t-ba]

Scaling is a myth cultivated by the BOS designed to scare students into doing 4 Unit Maths and Extension Classical Greek.

Good luck with your HSC peoples. Don't be slashing your wrists over something that in the long run really doesn't mean too much.

 

[Eelementary]

That's it. Ta, Mr. F.

But the crucial point to make about scaling is that it goes both ways - if you do poorly, depending on the results of others, you may be scaled up.

HOWEVER, if you do exceedingly well, you may just as easily be scaled down. Get used to it - in uni, you may get 99% on an assignment and still not get an HD/D.