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Hypocritical bullsh*t from Cam Smith

The Colonel

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<H2 id=story>Cap a licence to poach best of the best: Melbourne Storm's Cameron Smith
By Cameron Smith
June 13, 2009 Amid all the madness and hysteria surrounding the swine flu "outbreak" in the NRL, I fear one of the more important and genuinely concerning stories in our game has drifted by almost unnoticed.
Joseph Tomane is not a household name. But it is a name all rugby league fans should remember.
Last weekend he treated everyone to a glimpse of the potential we at Melbourne Storm have seen building for the past two years.
At 19 and with only nine NRL games to his name, he was absolutely sensational against Brisbane Broncos and finished the night with a hat-trick of tries.
He also slotted six conversions covering for this tired, old bloke who normally kicks the goals. I told him I am taking the job back this week.
The kid is going to be a star one day. Sadly for us, when he does reach the heights I believe he can in this game, he won't be wearing the purple of the Melbourne Storm after Gold Coast Titans signed him on a two-year deal that we just couldn't match due to the constraints of the salary cap.
It is the third time in less than a year we have had to farewell one of our brightest talents.
First it was Israel Folau, who left to join the Broncos. Earlier this year, his replacement, Will Chambers, was poached by Queensland Reds and now Joe is heading north to catch some extra sun on the Gold Coast.
As a captain of the club, I have to admit it is a bitter pill to swallow and it again raises the issue of the lack of incentives or rewards there are for clubs to invest in the development of junior talent.
This is an issue that is obviously a hot topic at the Storm at the moment, but in no way are we the only ones affected.
In the past seven days, both St George Illawarra and Sydney Roosters have been dealt a similar blow, with Justin Poore and Shane Shackleton agreeing to terms with Parramatta.
Judging by the comments from the respective clubs, these were blokes they didn't want to lose. Both have come through their systems and have this year become representative players.
Now all that time, effort and money appears to have been for nothing. The Eels will be the recipient of all their hard work and what do the Dragons and Roosters get in return? Nothing. It is something the powers that be have to again look at.
Don't get me wrong. I am the first to acknowledge the salary cap has done a wonderful job in creating an even and exciting competition. You only need to look at the quality of football played across the board to see the impact it has had.
But I believe the time has come to again look at the configuration of the cap.
With the creation of the Toyota Cup competition, these young blokes are more readily seen and vulnerable to rival clubs than ever before.
Already we have seen certain clubs winding back their investment in junior development and the NRL has to take action to avoid things deteriorating to a point where clubs just decide the reward for investment is no longer there.
Whenever these sorts of topics come up the comment is made that it is easy to say there is a problem without offering any solution.
While I certainly don't profess to have all the answers, I know there are enough smart people in and around our game to come up with a way to address this issue.
One idea I did hear which, at the very least, sounded interesting, was a proposal that the salary cap be reduced and only cover players who you have brought to your club from another. Any player you have brought up through your junior development system is not included in the quota.
At the other end, I am also a strong advocate for greater salary cap exemptions for long-serving players.
I look at what Craig Bellamy and the administration team have done here in creating an environment players enjoy being a part of. We have a group of guys who have been together a long time.
It seems unfair the club would end up being punished as we get older for engendering the sort of loyalty rugby league has long been based on.
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http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25628668-23214,00.html

Funnily enough they are one of the clubs chasing hardest for Albert Kelly. Will Cameron be chastising the Storm for that? They've been living off offering the best and brightest the biggest deals around for years.....
 

hineyrulz

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The Storm have been doing it to other clubs for years, tough sh*t i say. And as for his comment about the Rorters LOL. They would be able to keep Shack if they didn't pay big dollars for an untested rookie from Manly. How many players have we lost since 2006???? We sign two blokes and everybody is giving it to us FFS.
 

sooperdooper

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i hate cam smith with a passion.
If he is so upset bout the titans signing tomane why didnt he take a small paycut to keep him at the storm?
 

stuke

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i hate cam smith with a passion.
If he is so upset bout the titans signing tomane why didnt he take a small paycut to keep him at the storm?

c'mon...why would he do that?

he whored himself out to the Gold Coast to get that great deal from the Storm. why would he throw away all that hard work to screw the club for as much money as he could only to give it away again.
 
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can't believe any club in this day and age can complain like that really, and the storm? like how many of their top 25 are local juniors?
 

WA Eel

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Smith = Queenslander + Storm player. What else would you expect from him but hypocritical bullsh*t?
 

TheRam

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Yes he is being hypocritical to some extent, but that is to be expected by most clubs, in certain situations, when the shoe is on the other foot. Every club does it to each other, that is the nature of such a strict salary cap and its greatest problem.

However the possible solution he suggests at the end is a pretty good one and would benefit Parra and the league in the long run to no end. Anything that will improve this ridiculous situation and allow clubs to hold onto their young talent should not be ignored just because we don't like the messenger.

I for one think that the more we debate about this issue the better and maybe, just maybe the boofheads that are still running our game might end up being forced into some sort of action.
 

oldmancraigy

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Yes he is being hypocritical to some extent, but that is to be expected by most clubs, in certain situations, when the shoe is on the other foot. Every club does it to each other, that is the nature of such a strict salary cap and its greatest problem.

However the possible solution he suggests at the end is a pretty good one and would benefit Parra and the league in the long run to no end. Anything that will improve this ridiculous situation and allow clubs to hold onto their young talent should not be ignored just because we don't like the messenger.

I for one think that the more we debate about this issue the better and maybe, just maybe the boofheads that are still running our game might end up being forced into some sort of action.

We should be supporting what Smith says - but pressing for "local juniors" to be classified from Harold Matthews age!

If we got benefits to keep the kids we 'developed' from the ages of 14-15 then I dare say we'd be perenially one of the strongest clubs in the league - along with the Dragons and Panthers.
 

Angry_eel

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lol mentioning parra in poaching people's players just shows the guy has no idea. How many juniors have we lost in the last 10 years that we wanted to keep. I wonder why this androtop wasn't screaming when we lost Tony Williams.
 

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Well if inglis slater smith and cronk are all so passionate about storm as they seem to be why don't they take pay cuts to keep players like tomane at the club....plus if tomane didn't see a future at storm then he has the right to go elsewhere where he is wanted storm are a bunch of nuffies
 

TheRam

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We should be supporting what Smith says - but pressing for "local juniors" to be classified from Harold Matthews age!

If we got benefits to keep the kids we 'developed' from the ages of 14-15 then I dare say we'd be perenially one of the strongest clubs in the league - along with the Dragons and Panthers.


I hear ya oldman, I hear ya.
 

The Colonel

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We should be supporting what Smith says - but pressing for "local juniors" to be classified from Harold Matthews age!

There is merit in what Smith says however to be crying foul now is ridiculous. They poached Greg Inglis from Newcastle, they poached Ryan Hoffmann from Wests. They pick the eyes out of the best talent available by throwing big money at them and sook about it when they leave.

Tomane was scouted from Union and was at one point trying to leave the club before he had even started there.


Sepeti Afu – prop – NZ
James Barker – second row - Scone
Keni Blair – halfback - Auckland

Jess Bromwich – prop – ?
Dane Chisholm – centre - Mullumbimby
Matt Croker – prop – Melbourne NYC
Matt Currie – halfback – Brisbane Wests
Matt Duffie – centre – Auckland
Slade Griffin – centre – Canterbury, NZ
Jake Hawkins – halfback - Tamworth
Josh Jerome – centre – Melbourne NYC
Sam Joe – centre – Melbourne NYC
Jai Jones-Wiegold – hooker – Manly NYC
Luke Kelly – five-eighth – Melbourne NYC
Blake Leary – lock/second row – Gold Coast SG Ball
Blaise Lomax – centre – Wellington, NZ
Pita Maile – centre/wing – Parramatta SG Ball
Fred Makimare – second row - ?
Sam Martin – second row - Ipswich
Jordan McLaughlin – prop - Auckland

Jordan McLean – prop - Young
Will Naitoro – lock – Melbourne NYC
Robbie Rochow – centre – Newcastle SG Ball
Billy Rogers – second row – Norths, Qld
Andrew Smith – second row – Souths NYC
Theodore Stuart – prop – Melbourne NYC
Gerrard Tibbetts – centre – Wests, Qld
Brendan Train – centre – Parramatta NYC
Jordan Tuarae – five-eighth – Auckland
Pulou Vaituutuu – prop – Melbourne NYC
Gareth Widdop – fullback – Melbourne NYC
James Woolford – hooker – Canberra junior

http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?p=5410337

This is there NYC side from this year. Sure they will develop many of them into good players but they are doing exactly what every other club in the NRL are doing and then crying foul when someone dares sign one of their young players.
 

Binga

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I made up a team of all the juniors we developed who are playing for other clubs this season:

1. Wade Mckinnon
2. David Williams
3. Jamie Lyon
4. Willie Tonga
5. John Williams
6. Blake Green
7. Tim Smith
8. Joel Clinton
9 P.J Marsh
10. Michael Hodgson
11. Paul Gallen
12. Andrew Ryan
13. Zeb Taia

14. Ashley Graham
15. Brett Delaney
16. Luke O'Dwyer
17. Richard Fa'asoso
18. Tony Williams
19. James Maloney
20. Kane Cleal
21. Michael Witt
22. Ben Farrah
23. Jack Afamasaga
24. Trent Hodkison
 
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