I Dont' Like Cricket, Oh No, I Love it, Yeah

[Eelogical]

Loved it. Poms battled hard for the draw. Didnt begrudge Anderson hanging on. Hes been a magnificent player. Yes Lyn never seems to be able to finish an innings. I guess Warne spoiled us forever.

Now they head to Tassie, they'll think they're back in the UK.

 

[King-Gutho94]

Because we're not as good as we think we are.

Yeah England's batting is just pure dog shit pretty hard to judge Australia with a weak opposition.

I would look at last years effort against India as a better guide where this team is at. And lets be honest they got humbled.

I reckon Pakistan tour is so tantalising because of the unknown i wasn't old enough to remember our last trip to Pakistan in 1998.

Pakistan have form on throwing up an ambush every now and then wouldn't surprise me ends up a 1-all draw over there in March.

 

[Eelogical]

Yeah England's batting is just pure dog shit pretty hard to judge Australia with a weak opposition.

I would look at last years effort against India as a better guide where this team is at. And lets be honest they got humbled.

I reckon Pakistan tour is so tantalising because of the unknown i wasn't old enough to remember our last trip to Pakistan in 1998.

Pakistan have form on throwing up an ambush every now and then wouldn't surprise me ends up a 1-all draw over there in March.

Some analysis and questions. Politics and past discrepancies aside, who is best suited to be Australia's Captain. Cummins, Smith or player X? I believe Smith because of his experience and decision making. He's made for the role, whereas Cummins seems to be more like one of the boys and seems happy to go with the general consensus amongst the other players. If he is the captain then he should be conferring with Smith only, especially since Smith would be a lot closer to the action when Cummins is fielding.
I think Warner is in the team on reputation these days, the other countries know how to get him out. Unfortunately, while Harris and others struggle with form at the top of the order his place is safe, but is only ignoring a major weakness going forward. We can't always rely on Labs or Smith to continually get us out of trouble.
Cameron Green is a work in progress and should be retained. He's young, green, but shows plenty of promise. If he puts in the hard yards he could be anything.
I don't know about Carey. He's 30 and bats like McGrath. He's been pretty good with the gloves, and so he should be at that age but he's no Gilly with the bat. Maybe some more time in the Test team to prove me wrong.
Our bowling is pretty good but some hot young firebrand to replace Starc would be handy. Also, Boland has taken his chances in the team but I'm talking about another Lee heading into the future. As much as Lyon has been a mainstay of our spin attack we need to develop another leggy.
I can't see us taking the #1 spot in Test cricket with our current team. Anyone disagree?

 

[Twizzle]

Warner is 35, Oozie 35, Lyon 33, Smudger 32 and Boland 32. I think if Lyon retires soon, we'll be better for it s I have never rated this guy. So many times he has had opportunities to bowl us to victory on day 5 and failed. He's never heard of variation.

You're right about Green, he is so talented, just wish he'd pitch the ball up a bit further and bowl more of those accidental yorkers that he did yesterday.

We have a few players who will soon retire so I reckon there will be few changes to the squad pretty soon.

 

[84 Baby]

but he's no Gilly

This is what’s wrong with your entire analysis. Literally comparing players with absolute greats. Using that logic, we may as well drop LabradorShane and Smith because they are no Bradman with the bat.

 

[84 Baby]

The bigger test (pun intended) for CA is not doing a Poms and losing Test competitiveness as players focus on short form dollars

 

[Eelogical]

This is what’s wrong with your entire analysis. Literally comparing players with absolute greats. Using that logic, we may as well drop LabradorShane and Smith because they are no Bradman with the bat.

Like that's never happened before on the Eels side of player discussions. I wasn't expecting another Gilly, just someone who knows what a bat is for.

 

[King-Gutho94]

Like that's never happened before on the Eels side of player discussions. I wasn't expecting another Gilly, just someone who knows what a bat is for.

In Carey's defence his averaged is skewed because he had to bat twice when he was on a hiding to nothing.

On Saturday he shouldn't have had to bat cummins should have declared when green got out. So he unnecessarily got a golden.

Then in the 2nd innings of the gabba warner had a injured rib. Carey had to open chasing 17 runs and got out when in normal circumstances he wouldn't be required.

He has proven he can bat at international level he started off slow with the bat in ODI Cricket took him about 20 games but got going eventually. He had a great 2019 WC and scored a 100 in 2020 against England when they were 5/90.

Hopefully it doesn't take 20 tests at test level. But he at least deserves another half a dozen tests i feel to get a true gauge.

I think his keeping is more of a worry atm though.

 

[Twizzle]

his keeping was good in the first 3 tests, but he was pretty average in the Sydney test

 

[Eelogical]

In Carey's defence his averaged is skewed because he had to bat twice when he was on a hiding to nothing.

On Saturday he shouldn't have had to bat cummins should have declared when green got out. So he unnecessarily got a golden.

Then in the 2nd innings of the gabba warner had a injured rib. Carey had to open chasing 17 runs and got out when in normal circumstances he wouldn't be required.

He has proven he can bat at international level he started off slow with the bat in ODI Cricket took him about 20 games but got going eventually. He had a great 2019 WC and scored a 100 in 2020 against England when they were 5/90.

Hopefully it doesn't take 20 tests at test level. But he at least deserves another half a dozen tests i feel to get a true gauge.

I think his keeping is more of a worry atm though.

Understood, and I know I'm judging him on a very short timespan. I'm just trying to look at where we should plan to be in the future.

 

[Incorrect]

In Carey's defence his averaged is skewed because he had to bat twice when he was on a hiding to nothing.

On Saturday he shouldn't have had to bat cummins should have declared when green got out. So he unnecessarily got a golden.

Then in the 2nd innings of the gabba warner had a injured rib. Carey had to open chasing 17 runs and got out when in normal circumstances he wouldn't be required.

He has proven he can bat at international level he started off slow with the bat in ODI Cricket took him about 20 games but got going eventually. He had a great 2019 WC and scored a 100 in 2020 against England when they were 5/90.

Hopefully it doesn't take 20 tests at test level. But he at least deserves another half a dozen tests i feel to get a true gauge.

I think his keeping is more of a worry atm though.

Mark Waugh made a good observation on his keeping in the Sydney Test and noted that he seems to be standing directly behind the on strike batsman (if not even further towards legside), to the point that he is probably not seeing a lot of the balls that are making the batsman play until it gets past them and potentially reacting too late (the dropped catch a case in point). Junior was saying that he almost has to 'look around the corner'. He needs to take a good step or 2 to towards the first slip and then set the cordon based on his position...

 

[King-Gutho94]

Understood, and I know I'm judging him on a very short timespan. I'm just trying to look at where we should plan to be in the future.

Jimmy Pierson was batting ok in the shield. And some judges think he is just as competent keeper as carey.

Even though its T20 he now can't score a run in the BBL.

Josh Inglis is the next in line it seems but i haven't seen enough to judge him he come from the clouds in the last 6 months.

He and pierson have identical FC stats average 33 with 3 hundreds. Inglis is 3 years younger though at 26.

 

[King-Gutho94]

Mark Waugh made a good observation on his keeping in the Sydney Test and noted that he seems to be standing directly behind the on strike batsman (if not even further towards legside), to the point that he is probably not seeing a lot of the balls that are making the batsman play until it gets past them and potentially reacting too late (the dropped catch a case in point). Junior was saying that he almost has to 'look around the corner'. He needs to take a good step or 2 to towards the first slip and then set the cordon based on his position...

Oh ok i was at cricket from day 2 to 4 so i sort of missed what the commentators were saying throughout the match.

But yeah there certainly looks to be a communication issue with warner at first slip.

 

[84 Baby]

Like that's never happened before on the Eels side of player discussions. I wasn't expecting another Gilly, just someone who knows what a bat is for.

And the comparison is as dumb then as it is now.

 

[Twizzle]

Mark Waugh made a good observation on his keeping in the Sydney Test and noted that he seems to be standing directly behind the on strike batsman (if not even further towards legside), to the point that he is probably not seeing a lot of the balls that are making the batsman play until it gets past them and potentially reacting too late (the dropped catch a case in point). Junior was saying that he almost has to 'look around the corner'. He needs to take a good step or 2 to towards the first slip and then set the cordon based on his position...

I heard Jnr saying that and I was yelling at the TV, perhaps he didn't hear me.

They do that when you have a bowler like Starc who bowls a bit of leg side shit and it gives them a better chance to get across to the leg side and cover those wide ones. Generally happens to a keeper who sees the ball movement late.

Not a good sign.

 

[hineyrulz]

Carey is average, he’s already 30 and just a stop gap measure. Inglis is 4 years younger and the superior batsman. Lyon is the biggest myth in Aussie cricket the last 20 years. And Starc is a Starc great on his day but when it’s not swinging and he’s a little down on pace he struggles. Haze is a big loss he would if bowled stump to stump on day 5 and got us home.

 

[Twizzle]

Carey is average, he’s already 30 and just a stop gap measure. Inglis is 4 years younger and the superior batsman. Lyon is the biggest myth in Aussie cricket the last 20 years. And Starc is a Starc great on his day but when it’s not swinging and he’s a little down on pace he struggles. Haze is a big loss he would if bowled stump to stump on day 5 and got us home.

Starc has not swung the ball much this series and been our second highest wicket taker, he's been a bit more line and length this series.

 

[Incorrect]

It's also a bit of a worry that Richardson, Neser, Boland (question mark on him for Hobart apparently) and Hazlewood have all succumbed to injury. I mean Richardson and Neser played 1 test and pulled up sore... Are these guys a little soft or what? Or is it merely team mgmt being overly cautious?

 

[84 Baby]

It's also a bit of a worry that Richardson, Neser, Boland (question mark on him for Hobart apparently) and Hazlewood have all succumbed to injury. I mean Richardson and Neser played 1 test and pulled up sore... Are these guys a little soft or what? Or is it merely team mgmt being overly cautious?

That and probably lacking match fitness.

 

[Incorrect]

That and probably lacking match fitness.

They need to put on a couple of horse blankets and skol a schooner at the drinks breaks. That's what John Snow would do and he was a helluva bowler...