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If the Western Force get cut

BuffaloRules

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Grant said the same thing three years ago, no vision, no strategy. Next tv deal will roll around and we still won't have a ninth game to sell.

This is what Grant said in October...

He has said that expansion in 2023 is "unlikely" and he wants to concentrate on the State Cups...

Not sure he was saying that in 2013...

Appears that Greenburg in now parroting this view...

Grant said the NRL could increase beyond the current 16 teams by the time a new broadcast deal is negotiated for 2023 and beyond, but it was unlikely. The $1.8 billion deal struck in November last year comes into operation in 2018 and will expire in 2022.

The NRL has previously stated no expansion beyond 2020. Grant conceded the idea of growing the elite level was not completely out of range for the 2023 negotiations.

“Perhaps, but it would depend entirely on what our participation rates are looking like,” the chairman said. “Participation is like a pyramid. If you don’t build up the base you can’t add more to the top.

“Remember our expansion strategy is around State cups. With the NYC (under-20s) ending at the end of 2017 that’s around 400 players coming out of there and going into the NSW and Qld Cups and a few into the NRL.”

We’d see teams playing from around the Pacific, into New Zealand and from around Australia in that competition,” Grant said. “We’ll be putting much, much more of it on television as part of the new rights deal (starting 2018).

“We see expansion in that tier two competition having a much broader footprint. But another element of that is to make sure those clubs are closely linked to an NRL club so players coming back — who are not playing NRL — come back into those teams and make them strong on a competitive basis.

“So when people talk about expansion with me, I tell them it’s expansion at the tier two level.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...l/news-story/c084437904da62c3e9f831e585789d24
 

papabear

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Fair enough, but you'd need to square that with the other Sydney clubs who'd lose a home game.
obviously, they would take the lions share of revenue from that game.

when the attendance numbers start to move below what they would get at a normal home game thats when it is slowly phased out, to a once or twice a year heritage type thing.
 

papabear

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Penrith v Souths viewers
got 38K in brisbane and 17k in melbourne.. then it only got 2k in adelaide and 6k in perth.

Add to that all the clubs and pubs that would have the nrl on in brisbane that wouldnt have it on in melbourne.

The benefits the NRL would get out of having a local perth side (and adelaide for that matter, but tbh that can wait) makes the move to perth should the force get cut a no brainer.
 

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This is what Grant said in October...

He has said that expansion in 2023 is "unlikely" and he wants to concentrate on the State Cups...

Not sure he was saying that in 2013...

Appears that Greenburg in now parroting this view...



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...l/news-story/c084437904da62c3e9f831e585789d24

I was at this nrl breakfast in 2012 when he said exactly the same thing in relation to the tv deal. No doubt we will hear it again when the 2023 deal rolls around unless we have some fresh blood at CEO and commission level.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-01/wa-rugby-league-fans-not-happy/4348374
 

Perth Red

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Penrith v Souths viewers
got 38K in brisbane and 17k in melbourne.. then it only got 2k in adelaide and 6k in perth.

Add to that all the clubs and pubs that would have the nrl on in brisbane that wouldnt have it on in melbourne.

The benefits the NRL would get out of having a local perth side (and adelaide for that matter, but tbh that can wait) makes the move to perth should the force get cut a no brainer.

Afl kill us in metro ratings due partly to our inability to grow the game in Perth, Adelaide and to a lessor degree Melbourne. Probably another one of the reasons they get more than us every tv pay day. We'd only need to be getting around 100k across those cities to beat afl's Sydney and Brisbane viewing figures.
 

taipan

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Afl kill us in metro ratings due partly to our inability to grow the game in Perth, Adelaide and to a lessor degree Melbourne. Probably another one of the reasons they get more than us every tv pay day. We'd only need to be getting around 100k across those cities to beat afl's Sydney and Brisbane viewing figures.

It's no thanks to the Nth TV ratings ,cr*p and getting cr*ppier.
This is the same mob(AFL) that hasn't grown its TV ratings In Sydney and Brisbane,with all the marketing,money and promotion, and you continue to ignore the fact.
 

Perth Red

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It's no thanks to the Nth TV ratings ,cr*p and getting cr*ppier.
This is the same mob(AFL) that hasn't grown its TV ratings In Sydney and Brisbane,with all the marketing,money and promotion, and you continue to ignore the fact.

They smash nrl's ratings in Perth, Adelaide and Melbourne
 

T-Boon

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This is what Grant said in October...

He has said that expansion in 2023 is "unlikely" and he wants to concentrate on the State Cups...


Awesome expansion areas. Reserve grade is coming to you!! Thats right, the grade clubs barely give a f**k about is coming to you.

I got there an hour early for an Eels game last week. There was about 100 fans there to watch reserve grade.

This is one sure way to make damn sure expansion never happens.
 

T-Boon

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I was at this nrl breakfast in 2012 when he said exactly the same thing in relation to the tv deal. No doubt we will hear it again when the 2023 deal rolls around unless we have some fresh blood at CEO and commission level.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-01/wa-rugby-league-fans-not-happy/4348374

Nice pick up. So Grant said in 2014 "sorry but WA kids are going to need to stumble around in the dark (with a massive AFL light glaring in their eyes) and find their own way to Rugby League".
This is going to continue on for ever.
 

taipan

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They smash nrl's ratings in Perth, Adelaide and Melbourne

So they should.heartland areas AFL ambassador.They are dropping already sh*thouse ratings in the Northern States which was ,,is, has been my point.

All the money spent on their expansion clubs and they still can't can't get more people to watch.Polish a t*rd with gold plating.It's still t*rd.

But,but,but,it's the AFL the epitome of everything that is successful,righteous and worthy of the Order of Australia.
 

age.s

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f**k this relocation talk. When the Force die let's get the Pirates in, resurrect the Rams and negotiate another FTA game on Saturday. Unions failure should be a lesson to anyone who thinks a sport can survive on pay tv only.
 

taipan

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f**k this relocation talk. When the Force die let's get the Pirates in, resurrect the Rams and negotiate another FTA game on Saturday. Unions failure should be a lesson to anyone who thinks a sport can survive on pay tv only.

The most sensible comment I have read.
 

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Best thing the nrl could do if Force are cut is to pump some serious money Into the nrlwa to support union jnr clubs to convert to league and to increase funding to the elite program.

We have our first union club start up a Jnr league program last year in the Kwinana wolves, let's convince the others to jump ship.

Then announce a Perth team for 2021/22 so these kids have something to aspire to.
 
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f**k this relocation talk. When the Force die let's get the Pirates in, resurrect the Rams and negotiate another FTA game on Saturday. Unions failure should be a lesson to anyone who thinks a sport can survive on pay tv only.

A Sunday 6pm east coast game would be better. 4pm wa time, 5:30 SA time

2 games Friday, 4 games Saturday, 3 games Sunday should be the aim.
 

Stormwarrior82

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Best thing the nrl could do if Force are cut is to pump some serious money Into the nrlwa to support union jnr clubs to convert to league and to increase funding to the elite program.

We have our first union club start up a Jnr league program last year in the Kwinana wolves, let's convince the others to jump ship.

Then announce a Perth team for 2021/22 so these kids have something to aspire to.

That is Absolutely what is needed. But what money are they going to use? Maybe after the clubs are settled and knights/Gold Coast have been sold for a good price they might do it, that is what the nrl have said for a few years now. I would also assume that the Nrl would also use the announcement of a Perth expansion team as well as big money for WA grassroots to help with the snowball affect.
 

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