I'm not watching this weekend - team named.

[matt]

:lol: Punch on I say..

Just cause we throw a few,does'nt mean we don't love each other.

 

[edabomb]

I'd like to know why a bunch of armchair forum experts seem to have more idea than the people running the club.

 

[Timbo]

Well, I watched.

Hmph.

 

[VictorTheViking]

I'd like to know why a bunch of armchair forum experts seem to have more idea than the people running the club.

I think the results speak for themselves ed, pretty simple really, the club has no f**king idea what they are doing at the moment.

 

[Raiderssupporter]

I wen t and watched the game we seemed to be doing well, Mogg was playing ok as halfbalf taking the heat of Campo so he could run free. The in the 50 minute they took Mogg off. They only had to mark Campo and the game was over. Why did they take Mogg off was he injured ?

 

[Raider_69]

I'd like to know why a bunch of armchair forum experts seem to have more idea than the people running the club.

They dont, they are just deluded enough to think they do. Truth be told no one on this or any other Raiders forum have a single idea on how to run an NRL footy club

They have no idea the challenges the club faces, they have no idea on the intricacies of the salary cap, player negotiation, sponsorship negotiation, day to day running of a football club operations.

Nor do they have any idea on how to manage professional athletes. How to design and run a professional training regime for an NRL squad, how to devise and effective game plan for NRL competition, nor do they have an idea on management of specific athletes injury needs and management. Nor do they have any idea on sports psychology and how coaching and psychology interact. Nor how the coaching programmes use a mixture of techniques to tailored a sporting team or athlete to peak at various parts of a season/programme pending on their schedule
Nor do they understand the impact of bio mechanics and how it can influence performance and results, simple movements from certain muscles and limbs and the efficiency of that movement, can massive change how the successful the action is.

I include myself in this, as i have no idea on any of these issues, however recently i've been made aware that over the course of my studies i will be made well aware exactly how important these issues are, particularly the coaching side of things, and no one here has the business nous to correctly manage a football club

So no. We dont have a better idea of how to do things then those in the role now. Fact. Suggestion otherwise is frankly ill informed and ridiculous.

 

[legend]

How do you know this Nick? I would think there are some established business people who frequent this forum who would know how to run a club.

I would also suggest nepotism is not a step in the right direction. Furners winning % as a coach is currently hovering in the mid thirties and most if not all coaches would have their head on the chopping block by now and if the season continues based on current trends it wont get much higher.

Personally, I think all the Furners are a pack of dunces and have ruined the reputation of Don Sr and David is fast ruining his playing reputation by being such an inept coach who clearly has no f**king idea of how to coach a team for more than one half of footy per game.

 

[Timbo]

How do you know this Nick? I would think there are some established business people who frequent this forum who would know how to run a club.

I would also suggest nepotism is not a step in the right direction. Furners winning % as a coach is currently hovering in the mid thirties and most if not all coaches would have their head on the chopping block by now and if the season continues based on current trends it wont get much higher.

Personally, I think all the Furners are a pack of dunces and have ruined the reputation of Don Sr and David is fast ruining his playing reputation by being such an inept coach who clearly has no f**king idea of how to coach a team for more than one half of footy per game.

Here here.

 

[Raider_69]

How do you know this Nick? I would think there are some established business people who frequent this forum who would know how to run a club.

I would also suggest nepotism is not a step in the right direction. Furners winning % as a coach is currently hovering in the mid thirties and most if not all coaches would have their head on the chopping block by now and if the season continues based on current trends it wont get much higher.

Personally, I think all the Furners are a pack of dunces and have ruined the reputation of Don Sr and David is fast ruining his playing reputation by being such an inept coach who clearly has no f**king idea of how to coach a team for more than one half of footy per game.

mate, there might be some business people but you are kidding yourself if you think running a business is anything like running a sporting club, sure some skills might cross over, but essentially its a fairly specialised area.

Im not going to argue the furners and their credentials, ive had that argument too many times. All im saying is to suggestion ANYONE on this forum knows ANYTHING about running or coaching a football team is complete ridiculous.

No one on this forum could run this football club any better than it is now. Nor could they coach it any better than it is now.

You can have your opinion on where Dave and Don rank in the NRL world in their respective positions but no one on this forum or any other for that matter could do a better job. Thats all im saying re: the post of Ed

Tragically i really think there are people on this and the GH who actually think they could run the club better, which, take it from a guy who has recently discovered how much he DOESNT know about sports and sports science, they dont.

Don and Dave might be ranked 16th in the NRL for their respective positions but anyone thinking airchair experts on an internet forum know more about running and coaching a football club than the Furners, are frankly morons.

 

[matt]

I am an amazing talent.

 

[Raider_69]

I am an amazing talent.

You wouldnt know your stubby holder from you f**king c**k mate, and i respect that :lol:

 

[matt]

:lol: Both have been very good to me over the years.

 

[Raider_69]

:lol: Both have been very good to me over the years.

touche good sir :lol:

 

[legend]

What are Don Jr's credentials besides being related to a the coach and a former coach?

Robert Finch was once the football manager and was a former player, as was Meninga. What makes these blokes credentialled? The fact they have played the game? Surely that's not a pre-requisite to run a club?

 

[shear_joy9]

mate, there might be some business people but you are kidding yourself if you think running a business is anything like running a sporting club, sure some skills might cross over, but essentially its a fairly specialised area.

yada
yada

I'm not sure what your point is. Your saying we should all stop criticising management because we can't do a better job? That's ridiculous. Should we also stop bagging the players because no-one here would be capable of playing nrl footy?

Dump the furners and get someone more qualified to fill the positions. Hell, I'd even suggest throwing a bag of money at the brumbies Andrew Fagan.

 

[d-a-z-z-a]

The Raiders club is a club i believe still stuck in the past, i believe we never have recovered from the 90's period and our mgmt structure.. and practises are still from this time.

I feel so sad about the Raiders.. we really are a club in trouble... all teams have some problems..some teams have injury problems... some teams have a crappy coach... some have crappy players.. ours seems to suffer from crappy club management. The big problem with this one is that the people who can change the problem.. ARE THE PROBLEM!!!... i still can never believe David Furner was the best coach to be selected for our great club...maybe he is a smart guy.. but come on surely our INEXPERIENCED, GROWING, YOUNG TEAM of champions.. need a coach with years of experience...someone they can learn from... how david furner can teach these kids and nurture them ill never know...

i love the Raiders.. and wont ever give up on my the club.. but it really hurts me how stuck we are... we are in a continual spiral and never seem to be able to find out feet.. and i really believe the day we get new management with a fresh insight intro running a club.. we'll always be the club that is in the "development phase."

n/b "development phase" (the only thing we are friggin developing is a bunch of players for other clubs to buy later on )

*sigh

 

[Raider_69]

I'm not sure what your point is. Your saying we should all stop criticising management because we can't do a better job? That's ridiculous. Should we also stop bagging the players because no-one here would be capable of playing nrl footy?

Dump the furners and get someone more qualified to fill the positions. Hell, I'd even suggest throwing a bag of money at the brumbies Andrew Fagan.

thats not at all what im saying

Ed said "id like to know why a bunch of armchair forum experts seem to have more idea than the people running the club."

Legend went on to question how id know weather people on this forum know anything about running a football club

im not saying dont critise, im saying dont be foolish enough to actually believe anyone here has any f**king idea how to run a football club. No one here does and chances are they never will.

Legend, i said in my initial post im not going to debate the credentials of the furners, i've had that argument too many times and my position hasnt changed.

 

[Green Machine]

I watch 4 or 5 NRL games a week. I watch the Raiders play every week. We have some very good players and I would never question their work ethic. I think they play committed most weeks. Every team in the NRL values their dummy half and first receiver with the up most respect, all but us. The debacle of where we are 6 weeks into the comp with our 9 and 7 is embarrassing. I really don’t know why the coach kept Buttriss if he planned to use Tongue and Waddell at 9.
We would be in the lowest % of teams when it comes to putting on set plays in the red zone and scoring tries. Kicking for repeat sets?
I look at the Raiders in attack and see team with very poor structure.
Take Sunday for example.
The first try was off a scrum on half way. Dugan went to 5/8, who gave a double pump to draw Sutton to put Croker away.
The second started with a sh*t pass out of dummy half from Tongue to Campo with Dugan picking up the dregs and throwing a wide pass to put Kelly into the open and then backing up to score one of the best tries I’ve ever seen.
The third try was another sh*t from Tongue to Fenson this time, Tongue goes back to pick it up and passes to Thompson who sees Sutton move out of the line and runs past Best to score.
The last try was a barge over from dummy half from Thurling.
Not one try scored due to a set piece,