In and out of 8?

[Charlie124]

OUT: Souths, Dogs, Warriors

IN: Dragons, Panthers, Sharks

 

[bobmar28]

Titans will make the 8 with the help of their new stadium.

 

[macavity]

i had to laugh at whoever it was that said the knights pack was one of the best in the comp.... i just cant really see it... Bulldogs, Souths, Eels, Roosters, Warriors, Melbourne, Manly & Nth QLD all have much better packs IMO...

it was me, and laugh away.

of those you listed, IMO ony Roosters, Warriors, Melb & Manly are on a similar level.

Dogs, Eels and Warriors have one decent forward each (Mateo will play 5/8 I hear...) while NQ are boarderline, their success will depend on LOD.

I think we are going to shake up some more fancied packs this year.

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

warriors overacheived last year imo. They have average halves and hooker. Price and Wiki are another year older. I will be very surprised if they make the top 4 again.

I'm trying to find a way to disagree, but I can't, and few Warriors fans could. The annoying thing is the Warriors will probably have a very strong backline next year with the addition of Tate and Mannering's likely move into the second row allowing Ropati the other centre spot. We just don't have anyone to get our backs the ball.

Price will be fine, the extra year on his age won't mean a thing. Wiki though didn't have a very good year last year. He had a few nagging injuries, but if they don't get fixed up then he's extra weight the team can't afford to carry. Logan Swann as well.

As always the bottom four will be decided by injuries and that's impossible for anyone to predict. I still think the Raiders are a year or two of maturing away from becomming a very strong side. The Knights potential I rate highly, but when have they ever had a good run with injuries?

Dogs out, an then whoever gets a bad injury run. Teams most likely to challenge for top 8 are Knights and Roosters. Sharks will appear likely until midway through the season where they'll suddenly disintegrate into powderpuffs yet again.

 

[caylo]

it was me, and laugh away.

of those you listed, IMO ony Roosters, Warriors, Melb & Manly are on a similar level.

Dogs, Eels and Warriors have one decent forward each (Mateo will play 5/8 I hear...) while NQ are boarderline, their success will depend on LOD.

I think we are going to shake up some more fancied packs this year.

No Mateo may start the season at 5-8 (i think keating will come in though) until Smith is fit, then he would revert back to lock.

Cayless
Riddell
Moimoi
Hindmarsh
Robenson
Mateo

that is our starting pack, there is 3 international forwards (current not past) who would all be in the 10 forwards in the game. Then there is Riddell Robenson and Mateo, all very good players in their own right. Plus guys young guys like Paulo, Cordoba, Hauraki comming through, plus the experiance of Wagon and Guavou. How is that just one good player... not a fair call imo.
Warriors again have a good forward pack, and Dogs is now just SBW.

I would say the Knights pack in superior to Rosters and Dogs, on par with Souths and Manly (both packs are over-rated very hard) but the others mentioned IMO are better than the Knights pack.

 

[mxlegend99]

of those you listed, IMO ony Roosters, Warriors, Melb & Manly are on a similar level.

Dogs, Eels and Warriors have one decent forward each (Mateo will play 5/8 I hear...) while NQ are boarderline, their success will depend on LOD.

So Warriors pack is of similar quality, but only has one decent forward? I guess that's about how i would rate the Knights pack. So yeah.

And as for those other teams being on a "similar level". They aren't. They are heaps better then the Knights pack. Without anywhere near the bias you have shown, i fancy the Panthers pack over the Knights.

The Knights pack would be borderline top 8.

 

[Iafeta]

LOL overachieved? I suppose all below just underachieved. The funniest part is the Knights pack comments, Buderus was well below his best last year, Simpson was good, Paterson is a good kid... but jobbers like Sargeant, Houston, Wicks? ROFL. Yep, there'll be many sides trembling in their boots over that.

Wade McKinnon took a long time to settle right at the Warriors, early on in the season he wasn't getting onto the offloads, and this is reflected by our first half of the year. We'll be better purely on the back of that. Yes, halves are weak as p!ss, but they were just that this year as well, and they still put the cleaners through a few mobs, including the strong as bulls pack the Newcastle Knights. Yes, Price is another year older, but sh!t, he's showing signs of it off the back of numerous record performances last year, an outstanding rep year, and great leadership. Woe was me, pity us poor Warriors fans having to cop his performances... Then again, I'd rather have Mitchell Sargeant propping my team up.

 

[netic]

Out with Warriors, Souths

In: Roosters, Sharks

I beleive the dogs will still make the eight, but just scrape in.

I think the top 3 will be decided between Storm, Cowboys, Eels

Dont write Manly off, last year everybody said they cant perform well without Kennedy and they did, this year without Monaghan they will do fine, Shame they play the most boring brand of footy i have ever seen. Would rather watch grass grow

Although i find it highly unlikely the Tigers can play some good football but our season will depend on consistency which over the past 2 seasons has seriously been lacking so realisticly i would have to say the Tigers would probably come around 10th in 2008, more then likely just miss out again

 

[macavity]

So Warriors pack is of similar quality, but only has one decent forward? I guess that's about how i would rate the Knights pack. So yeah.

good pick up.

Cross, Buderus, Simpson & Paterson

and we have one good forward?

good one.

you are just as biased as me if you discount that lot and rate the likes of Tim Grant (as promising as he may be), Adam Woolnough, Shane Rodney, Brendan Worth, Tony Puletua and Luke Priddis higher.

 

[macavity]

Cayless
Riddell
Moimoi
Hindmarsh
Robenson
Mateo

that is our starting pack, there is 3 international forwards (current not past) who would all be in the 10 forwards in the game. Then there is Riddell Robenson and Mateo, all very good players in their own right. Plus guys young guys like Paulo, Cordoba, Hauraki comming through, plus the experiance of Wagon and Guavou. How is that just one good player... not a fair call imo.
Warriors again have a good forward pack, and Dogs is now just SBW.

I rate MoiMoi and Mateo, sure.

Hindy is looking old (but granted is still class), the rest I don't rate. I have never understood why Parra fans rate Cayless so highly. He is about the same level as Sargent IMO....

You guys (like us, admittedly) wank off about your young guys every year - and few actually come good.

I would say the Knights pack in superior to Rosters and Dogs, on par with Souths and Manly (both packs are over-rated very hard) but the others mentioned IMO are better than the Knights pack.

I rate the Rooters. Manly too. Souths will be better with a fit Kidwell.

Perhaps im a bit over-optimistic about the Knights this year, guess I'm just excited that we will actually have someone other than total cream-puffs up front.

 

[Johnny Bravo]

I rate MoiMoi and Mateo, sure.

Hindy is looking old (but granted is still class), the rest I don't rate. I have never understood why Parra fans rate Cayless so highly. He is about the same level as Sargent IMO....

You guys (like us, admittedly) wank off about your young guys every year - and few actually come good.



I rate the Rooters. Manly too. Souths will be better with a fit Kidwell.

Perhaps im a bit over-optimistic about the Knights this year, guess I'm just excited that we will actually have someone other than total cream-puffs up front.

Cayless is a much better player than Sargeant.

 

[The Engineers Room]

And it is hard not to be excited at Parramatta with the record the junior club has.

I am with you a little, Cayless certainly isn't the biggest or the best front rower but he is a good leader and that is what he is there for.

 

[The Engineers Room]

And it is hard not to be excited at Parramatta with the record the junior club has.

I am with you a little, Cayless certainly isn't the biggest or the best front rower but he is a good leader and that is what he is there for.

 

[Iafeta]

good pick up.

Cross, Buderus, Simpson & Paterson

and we have one good forward?

good one.

you are just as biased as me if you discount that lot and rate the likes of Tim Grant (as promising as he may be), Adam Woolnough, Shane Rodney, Brendan Worth, Tony Puletua and Luke Priddis higher.

Simpson and Paterson. Cross is above average, but he's no world beater.

I'd back Penrith over your mob. What was the score at Energy Australia this season?

 

[macavity]

And it is hard not to be excited at Parramatta with the record the junior club has.

I would rate Penrith, the Broncos and probably the Knights as having a better long-term record with juniors.

granted you guys get a lot of young guys through (surprisingly few locals) but not much more than an average rate actually progress.

I expect that production line to slow now Hages is in charge too - ours certainly did, and is only just starting to ramp up again.

 

[Jobdog]

OUT - Rabbitohs, Bulldogs, possibly Warriors

IN - Titans, Knights, possibly Roosters

 

[mxlegend99]

good pick up.

Cross, Buderus, Simpson & Paterson

and we have one good forward?

good one.

you are just as biased as me if you discount that lot and rate the likes of Tim Grant (as promising as he may be), Adam Woolnough, Shane Rodney, Brendan Worth, Tony Puletua and Luke Priddis higher.

What about Petero Civinoceva, Frank Puletua, Frank Pritchard, Trent Waterhouse who would all walk into your forward pack? Did you forget them?

Nice of you to pick Brendan Worth and Shane Rodney who aren't likely to be anywhere near first grade next season. The others however are good players, Adam Woolnough was the captain of the Knights at one point this year, and Big T and Priddis both picked their game up after some time in PL. Put them with a leader like Petero Civinoceva and some young blokes looking at cracking first grade, and they should pull their fingers out.

Even if our pack fails to perform at its potential, it should still comfortably have it over that Knights pack. Which in all likeliness, atleast 1 or 2 of the blokes we hope will improve under Petero Civinoceva won't. Just as the Knights pack will have a player or 2 who won't perform aswell as fans would hope.

 

[mxlegend99]

*delete*

 

[mxlegend99]

I would rate Penrith, the Broncos and probably the Knights as having a better long-term record with juniors.



granted you guys get a lot of young guys through (surprisingly few locals) but not much more than an average rate actually progress.



I expect that production line to slow now Hages is in charge too - ours certainly did, and is only just starting to ramp up again.

Pity our juniors end up at other clubs

 

[Iafeta]

What about Petero Civinoceva, Frank Puletua, Frank Pritchard, Trent Waterhouse who would all walk into your forward pack? Did you forget them?

Nice of you to pick Brendan Worth and Shane Rodney who aren't likely to be anywhere near first grade next season. The others however are good players, Adam Woolnough was the captain of the Knights at one point this year, and Big T and Priddis both picked their game up after some time in PL. Put them with a leader like Petero Civinoceva and some young blokes looking at cracking first grade, and they should pull their fingers out.

Even if our pack fails to perform at its potential, it should still comfortably have it over that Knights pack.

Very...very comfortably. The Knights may rival the Tigers as the worst pack in the comp next year.