Indigenous All Stars vs Polynesian All Stars

[ed313909]

I was at that game.... AWESOME haka.. Best ive ever seen. Could feel it in the air after that!...

 

[Sydney Knight]

So with the upcoming All Stars game on Friday, I saw an article that claimed that Jared Waerea-Hargreaves was interested in bringing in a Māori team. However i've always had the idea that it should be a Polynesian combined team. Everyone knows that Polynesian supporters are incredibly passionate about their teams and their countries, you only have to go back to the Samoa vs Tonga game at Penrith a few years ago to see the crowd swarm the field to see that.

The idea I have (as do many others) is simple. Choose the best Indigenous team and get them to play the best Polynesian team HOWEVER considering the latter team has a wider pool of players to choose from, they can only have a maximum of 5 players that have played for New Zealand. Looking at the squads i've made (If there was hypothetically a game for 2015) we could see a game featuring these teams;

Indigenous All Stars 2015

1. Greg Inglis
2. Alex Johnston
3. Justin Hodges
4. Will Chambers
5. Blake Ferguson
6. Jamie Soward
7. Johnathan Thurston ©
8. Andrew Fifita
9. Nathan Peats
10. Ryan James
11. Sam Thaiday
12. Wade Graham
13. Greg Bird

14. Tyrone Peachey
15. Kyle Turner
16. Ben Barba
17. George Rose
18. Jack Wighton
19. Jamal Idris
20. Keirran Moseley


Polynesian All Stars 2015 (Max 5 Kiwi players)

1. Sione Mata?utia (Samoa)
2. Akuila Uate (Fiji)
3. Michael Jennings (Tonga)
4. Konrad Hurrell (Tonga)
5. Manu Vatuvei (Samoa)*
6. Anthony Milford (Samoa)
7. Benji Marshall © (Māori)*
8. Jared Waerea Hargreaves (Māori)*
9. Issac Luke (Māori)*
10. James Tamou (Māori)
11. Josh Papalii (Māori)
12. Jason Taumalolo (Tonga)*
13. Tariq Sims (Fiji)

14. Josh Maguire (Samoa)
15. James Segeyaro (Papua New Guinea)
16. Dylan Walker (Pitcairn Islands)
17. Jayson Bukuya (Fiji)
18. Feleti Mateo (Tonga)
19. Sisa Waqa (Fiji)
20. Dylan Napa (Cook Islands)

* Denotes NZ Kiwi players


If anyone has any opinion as to choosing different players for the squads feel free to shout out, just my opinion but i've probably forgotten anyone.

Anyway this really needs to be done so that we can not only celebrate the players we have who represent the great land and the great islands of Australasia but also advertise and expand world rugby league. Take note NRL.

Pitcairn Island is an interesting one. Read on line they have a population of 56 people and it belongs to England. if he didn't get picked for the Roos England probably would have come sniffing around

 

[Card Shark]

I offer common sense.

:lol:

 

[Sea_Eagles_Rock]

The problem with the concept is painfully obvious. There is no real motivation for the NRL All Stars. And that's why they get beat, even when their side is significantly better on paper.

It is a pointless game as it stands. There is nothing wrong with the concept itself. Nobody wants to get injured before during the game, and beating the Indigenous side just makes you feel culturally insensitive.

The 9's is a good solution. But it gives no thought to the impact on existing sides and the structure of the competition. What is 17, 18 or 19 teams going to do... What happens when the comp expands.

Wait for the comp to go to 18. 3 pools of 6. Rather than taking players from the other sides, get them to unearth talent from each region. Indigenous All Stars, NZ Mouri, Fiji, Samoa, PNG, country Australia (non-indigenous - perhaps something else). Confine the amateurs to one pool to reduce injury risks. It also gives them a saloon passage to the semi's.

It needs to be played over 3 days too to reduce fatigue.

 

[oikee]

There was a interesting article in the paper today saying "league has severe self esteem issues" and blames the fans for the negative impact on the game.
The only person offering up any positive ideas is Wayne Bennett, the rest of the league just make lip movements.
Whatever the fans think, do the opposite and you are on a winner.
I have not really read one idea on these forums that has been positive or a good idea.

Gallen needs to retire. He is a mental genius.

The game was a cracker, my tip was indigenous by 12.

 

[oikee]

The problem with the concept is painfully obvious. There is no real motivation for the NRL All Stars. And that's why they get beat, even when their side is significantly better on paper.

It is a pointless game as it stands. There is nothing wrong with the concept itself. Nobody wants to get injured before during the game, and beating the Indigenous side just makes you feel culturally insensitive.

The 9's is a good solution. But it gives no thought to the impact on existing sides and the structure of the competition. What is 17, 18 or 19 teams going to do... What happens when the comp expands.

Wait for the comp to go to 18. 3 pools of 6. Rather than taking players from the other sides, get them to unearth talent from each region. Indigenous All Stars, NZ Mouri, Fiji, Samoa, PNG, country Australia (non-indigenous - perhaps something else). Confine the amateurs to one pool to reduce injury risks. It also gives them a saloon passage to the semi's.

It needs to be played over 3 days too to reduce fatigue.

You dont need 17 or 18 or even 19 Nines teams.
Just get rid of the teams who dont want to try or be there, like the Storm and Tigers, and replace them with teams who want to be part of a fullhouse pre-season,. (a indigenous side and maybe a maori side as well)
They (storm) dont get any publicity, no jersey sales and should be shamed, no prize money either, and no soup,.

 

[POPEYE]

You dont need 17 or 18 or even 19 Nines teams.
Just get rid of the teams who dont want to try or be there, like the Storm and Tigers, and replace them with teams who want to be part of a fullhouse pre-season,. (a indigenous side and maybe a maori side as well)
They (storm) dont get any publicity, no jersey sales and should be shamed, no prize money either, and no soup,.

I'm with you, should even stop all Storm players from participating in Origin, f*ke the lot of them

 

[kal83]

I enjoyed last night's game and don't think they need to play with the concept.You wouldn't want the players playing too many games before the season proper because the risk of injuries would become too high.

I think having the 9's + Indigenous vs All Stars + World Challenge Series is plenty of football to keep us occupied until the season proper.

Getting a combined Maori side vs Indigenous all stars into a stand alone origin weekend would be the best option in my book and maybe a Tonga vs Samoa game.

 

[blaza88z]

the NRL All Stars couldn't give a f**k last night and you could see that

they need to do something about it, Indigenous players have it all to play for, NRL players simply couldn't give a shit

 

[blaza88z]

I think it shows in the crowd figures too, over 50% of the crowd would of been those supporting the indigenous team, take out the NRL team and throw in a maori/pacific island team and I think it's a much better spectacle for players and fans

 

[DC_fan]

The problem with the concept is painfully obvious. There is no real motivation for the NRL All Stars. And that's why they get beat, even when their side is significantly better on paper.

It is a pointless game as it stands. There is nothing wrong with the concept itself. Nobody wants to get injured before during the game, and beating the Indigenous side just makes you feel culturally insensitive.

Totally agree with your comments. I have said something similar elsewhere in this forum where I mentioned this game has a limited shelf life.

The game is all about the Indigenous team. The NRL All-Star team is there for a match to be able to be played. Very few people want them to win and they play accordingly.

 

[Sydney Knight]

What about other groups. We could consider a team of players who's fathers married mail order brides.

 

[oikee]

The reason everyone started to complain was the amount of forwards pulling out of the indigenous team.
You forgot one thing, the secret weapon, Gorgeous George. He had more guts than any all-star.

I see Gallen the protected species got off a shoulder charge , Headslam, and elbow to eye socket with a grinding of the form-arm to the face while Turner lay unconscious.

The sooner Gallen retires the sooner the game can thrive.
Any more thugs like him should be rubbed out.

 

[Mr Alfonso Saitungpaipau]

:lol:

He offers nothing

 

[_Johnsy]

I see Gallen the protected species got off a shoulder charge , Headslam, and elbow to eye socket with a grinding of the form-arm to the face while Turner lay unconscious.

The sooner Gallen retires the sooner the game can thrive.
Any more thugs like him should be rubbed out.

There was no headslam, there was no shoulder charge, Turner was never out cold.

As for the forearm, really it wouldn't have knocked the skin of a custard.

Short memory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjsakaVXgrA

+ the kick to the head of Williams in origin 2009. I agree rub the grubs out of the game.

 

[Miller was a legend]

It's Gallen, the haters will find any excuse to carry on like pork chops.

If anything Gal at the Sharls is a fat headed hog. Stifles the attack over and over again. Sooner he is in the front row the better.

As I said in another thread, I love that queensland hates him though

 

[Canard]

The Sharls.

I imagine it in a loud nasal Aussie accent "Sharls....."

 

[Miller was a legend]

Oops! Lmao

Nice one Canard

 

[whall15]

I agree with the idea of an Indigenous vs Maori game, it would become a celebration of indigenous culture in both countries and would be a more competitive and enjoyable game.

 

[Perth Red]

The inclusion of the nrl all stars is to give higher profile to the game, give the opportunity for non indigenous stars of the game to get into the schools and communities and to generate interest in the game from the majority non indigenous rl fan population. A Maori team offers non of that. If you down scaled the game and played it at regional or smaller venue such as darwin etc then a Maori team would go ok but the nrl sees this as an opportunity to show it cares about its responsibilities to the aboriginal community So I doubt they would want to do that.

End of day it was a good crowd, good atmosphere, decent game, did great community work and filled a pre season weekend with something worth watching. Not sure where the problem is?