Inglis to Souths..

[851]

And we all know Souffs have no heart

Or loyalty now too.

 

[BunniesMan]

f**k your heart and your loyalty. You can have them while we win more premierships.

 

[grouch]

Another chapter in BunniesMan's "Book Of Deludes"

 

[Whos Ya Daddy]

f**k your heart and your loyalty. You can have them while we win more premierships.

Souths has been turned into a millionaires brothel and the new fans are an embarrassment to the code. Your soulless rebirth of a club is destined to fail.

 

[Canard]

f**k your heart and your loyalty. You can have them while we win more premierships.

The irony here is that this was the motto of the now defunct SuperLeague.

 

[rnb11]

BM hows it feel to know money hasn't won you squat while players who are shown respect and loyalty are out there winning premierships.

 

[BunniesMan]

The irony here is that this was the motto of the now defunct SuperLeague.

So you have no problem when players leave every day of the week for bigger money elsewhere? That's ok and happens without anyone bitching about it, but a club replacing a player with an upgrade, that's some kind of heinous crime. It sh*ts me that people criticise us for doing something that gives us a better chance to win. It's jealousy, nothing more or less than jealousy from clubs who could never dream of attracing a player like Inglis to their team.

And the superleague was all about money, I don't care about money, I care about my team winning. This gives us a better chance to win, that's the priority.

 

[BunniesMan]

BM hows it feel to know money hasn't won you squat while players who are shown respect and loyalty are out there winning premierships.

Wtf are you talking about? The NRL's salary cap rules (that everyone loves) make loyalty and premierships not belong in the same sentence. Look at the Storm, the lengths they went to keep their players and show loyalty to them by resigning them and they got their premierships taken away from them.

You can't spend up to keep your players, players can't even take a discount to stay. The Salary cap is all about "redistributing talent", redistributing talent is the opposite of loyalty. The salary cap forced us to lose Champion, if you don't like that then you should have a problem with the salary cap.

 

[the1]

Champion will be back at Souths in 2012.

 

[Cletus]

I'm glad you're just some idiot on a forum and you aren't actually running a professional footy team. Champion is a good bloke but he wasn't even a certainty of staying a starting centre to the end of the season. To not get Inglis because of some stupid sense of "loyalty" would have been thinking with your heart instead of your head, and that's not the way to make decisions in professional sport.

You don't think Champion would be a little pissed off that he's done the right thing by the team and had a chat to Inglis, then the club has told him he should go to Melbourne a couple of months later because Inglis has signed? I know I'd be pissed off about that, even if my new employer is a much better place than my current one. He is a Souths Jnr after all.

 

[grouch]

Souths has been turned into a millionaires brothel and the new fans are an embarrassment to the code. Your soulless rebirth of a club is destined to fail.

In the Rusty-commissioned Souffs puff-piece “The Book Of Feuds”, there’s a line in the Roosters chapter suggesting that the Roosters “had lost their soul”. Now, if Nick Politis had nothing better to do on weekends he could offer some unknown freelance (aka unemployed) writer a few coins to write his own stroke-book, and he could very easily plagiarise that same phrase in describing the Rabbitohs. They’ve lost their soul.

Where is it? When these apparently imminent premierships roll in, where will the so-(laughably)called pride of the league find their pride?

Their captain, their leader, is a johnny-come-lately Bulldog whose only decent season in 07 (leading to a rare finals appearance – the Bunnies sole September sojourn in 20 years) was enough to earn him not only the captaincy but seemingly a four year paid vacation. He’s now a has-been at 28. Surely once that mammoth contract runs out he’ll be granted the same fond farewell as his predecessors, those beloved former Souths captains Peter Cusack and Bryan Fletcher - i.e sh*t-canned and sent to England.

The coaching conveyor belt continues on unabated. John Lang, a two year veteran in the head coach hot seat of Souffs, has mercifully been advised of his termination well in advance. Jason Taylor (07-09), Shaun McRae (05-06), Arthur Kitinas (04), Paul Langmack (03-04) and Craig Coleman (02) weren’t so fortunate. If a coach typically provides direction for a club, then it’s no surprise that somewhere in that aimless maze of coaching schizophrenia, that the Souffs soul has been lost - along with countless, countless games of football.

The playing group, surely, are where the soul is at! That abundant, fertile nursery of local juniors, all of them coming up through the grades together and making the big time. Those promising youngsters who came into the NRL during the Souffs dark days (umm, I may need to be more specific here... but carry on) who are now a few years older and have still done pretty much nothing in the NRL. John Sutton, a player who has remarkably managed to tread water his entire career. He’s inconsistent, they say. No, he’s just average, we say. Then there’s the other local juniors... [scans list] oh yes – Nathan Merritt. What a good guy at scoring tries he is. Also loves to point fingers at cameras after scoring tries. Not so good at tackling or making rep teams, but loves to point fingers at racist rep selectors after missing those teams. Who else. McPherson, Falloon, Corrigan. Who? Craig Wing! No he was canned. David Fa’alogo – Mascot junior! Not Jason Taylor’s favourite player, but he was canned because they signed the butterfingered Pom. Buddy Gordon, Eddie Paea – hmm both better halfbacks than Chris Sandow but no. Beau Champion. Ahh yes, Beau Champion. Here we have the latest chapter in the tale of latter-day South Sydney soul destruction. A cocky kid from the very nucleus of Bunnies heartland – La Perouse. A raw player, patiently slow-cooked into a genuine first grade centre. Yet, here he is, being treated like nothing more than a cell on an Excel spreadsheet. Ctrl-X. The sums weren’t adding up. Ctrl-X. Rusty says he’ll never do chequebook rugby league like the Roosters, but Excel spreadsheet rugby league is worse. At least in a cheque there is an inherent promise, and the promise is kept. In the new soulless Bunnies, you’re only a Ctrl-X away from being unceremoniously dumped when something better comes along.

I think if the current group of players did some soul-searching they may all eventually follow the sage advice offered to Joe Galuvao, when Rusty wanted to Ctrl-X him with a year left on his contract – quit Souths and join a seminary.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

f**k your heart and your loyalty. You can have them while we win more premierships.

You are truly a woeful, ignorant character. Heart and loyalty are the foundation of premierships. And before the razzle dazzle and bandwagon fans of the russell era what true souths fans could reflect on with pride as part of their culture.
All the best to the true and decent souths fans next season, but all the worst to imposters like you.

 

[besthalfbackPEARCE]

f**k your heart and your loyalty. You can have them while we win more premierships.

It's funny cause you won't win any more premierships.

Inglis (0 premierships) + Souffs (0 premierships in 20 years) = 0 premierships????

 

[Canard]

So you have no problem when players leave every day of the week for bigger money elsewhere? That's ok and happens without anyone bitching about it, but a club replacing a player with an upgrade, that's some kind of heinous crime. It sh*ts me that people criticise us for doing something that gives us a better chance to win. It's jealousy, nothing more or less than jealousy from clubs who could never dream of attracing a player like Inglis to their team.

And the superleague was all about money, I don't care about money, I care about my team winning. This gives us a better chance to win, that's the priority.

Im struggling to see how that post is in ANYWAY related to my quip about SuperLeague? Show me where people have NO problems with a player leaving for big money elsewhere?? (cutie and Izzy for example are hated more than Hitler on these boards, and SBW is considered worse than all three).

My comment was that Souths have turned into the very thing they purported to be against, a cashed up "win at all costs" corporate machine.

 

[rnb11]

Wtf are you talking about? The NRL's salary cap rules (that everyone loves) make loyalty and premierships not belong in the same sentence. Look at the Storm, the lengths they went to keep their players and show loyalty to them by resigning them and they got their premierships taken away from them.

You can't spend up to keep your players, players can't even take a discount to stay. The Salary cap is all about "redistributing talent", redistributing talent is the opposite of loyalty. The salary cap forced us to lose Champion, if you don't like that then you should have a problem with the salary cap.

It doesnt work like that for Souths, the salary cap isn't forcing out the local talent, Russel Crowe is forcing them out by signing million dollar players. If you're okay with that then you really should be ashamed to call yourself a fan. I bet you next year we'll see something along the lines of; "Geddes & Lowe released, Souths sign Johnathan Thurston." The Rabbioths are the biggest disgrace of the NRL the way they treat their players. It doesn't matter how long you've been at the club, if you you're not a "star" you're most probably gonna get told to go elsewhere. How can you support that?

 

[Kiki]

BunniesMan : i really like Souths and i would love to see them do well next year, but do you really think the signing of one player is a sure premiership? it's a bit more complicated than that mate.

 

[Evenflow]

So you have no problem when players leave every day of the week for bigger money elsewhere? That's ok and happens without anyone bitching about it, but a club replacing a player with an upgrade, that's some kind of heinous crime.

The 2 are completley different thing you f**king moron. When a player leaves for a better pay packet it's 99% at the end of his contract, not mid contract. If Souffs had've let Champion go when his contract was finished then i can guarantee you wouldn't be copping anywhere near the amount of sh*t that the club is now as that happens every season.

I'm not one bit at all surprised you tried to compare the 2 situation because yes, you really are that stoopid and nothing that comes from you these days surprises me anymore :lol:

 

[Perth Red]

Shock, horror, RL club run as a business, RL fans don't like it. Please people it isn't 1982 anymore!

 

[BunniesMan]

You don't think Champion would be a little pissed off that he's done the right thing by the team and had a chat to Inglis, then the club has told him he should go to Melbourne a couple of months later because Inglis has signed? I know I'd be pissed off about that, even if my new employer is a much better place than my current one. He is a Souths Jnr after all.

When we got Champion to talk to Inglis we had no idea we'd be letting go of anyone. And while I know the last couple of weeks probably haven't been easy for Champion he's not being sent to Siberia to work in a Gulag like some people are making it out to be. He got a 3 year 900k contract when before this he only had a year left. The more money and more years isn't something to be dismissed.

And he's gone to Melbourne where they have a history of bringing out the best in players. He hasn't been given a death sentence.

In the Rusty-commissioned Souffs puff-piece “The Book Of Feuds”, there’s a line in the Roosters chapter suggesting that the Roosters “had lost their soul”. Now, if Nick Politis had nothing better to do on weekends he could offer some unknown freelance (aka unemployed) writer a few coins to write his own stroke-book, and he could very easily plagiarise that same phrase in describing the Rabbitohs. They’ve lost their soul.

Where is it? When these apparently imminent premierships roll in, where will the so-(laughably)called pride of the league find their pride?

Their captain, their leader, is a johnny-come-lately Bulldog whose only decent season in 07 (leading to a rare finals appearance – the Bunnies sole September sojourn in 20 years) was enough to earn him not only the captaincy but seemingly a four year paid vacation. He’s now a has-been at 28. Surely once that mammoth contract runs out he’ll be granted the same fond farewell as his predecessors, those beloved former Souths captains Peter Cusack and Bryan Fletcher - i.e sh*t-canned and sent to England.

The coaching conveyor belt continues on unabated. John Lang, a two year veteran in the head coach hot seat of Souffs, has mercifully been advised of his termination well in advance. Jason Taylor (07-09), Shaun McRae (05-06), Arthur Kitinas (04), Paul Langmack (03-04) and Craig Coleman (02) weren’t so fortunate. If a coach typically provides direction for a club, then it’s no surprise that somewhere in that aimless maze of coaching schizophrenia, that the Souffs soul has been lost - along with countless, countless games of football.

The playing group, surely, are where the soul is at! That abundant, fertile nursery of local juniors, all of them coming up through the grades together and making the big time. Those promising youngsters who came into the NRL during the Souffs dark days (umm, I may need to be more specific here... but carry on) who are now a few years older and have still done pretty much nothing in the NRL. John Sutton, a player who has remarkably managed to tread water his entire career. He’s inconsistent, they say. No, he’s just average, we say. Then there’s the other local juniors... [scans list] oh yes – Nathan Merritt. What a good guy at scoring tries he is. Also loves to point fingers at cameras after scoring tries. Not so good at tackling or making rep teams, but loves to point fingers at racist rep selectors after missing those teams. Who else. McPherson, Falloon, Corrigan. Who? Craig Wing! No he was canned. David Fa’alogo – Mascot junior! Not Jason Taylor’s favourite player, but he was canned because they signed the butterfingered Pom. Buddy Gordon, Eddie Paea – hmm both better halfbacks than Chris Sandow but no. Beau Champion. Ahh yes, Beau Champion. Here we have the latest chapter in the tale of latter-day South Sydney soul destruction. A cocky kid from the very nucleus of Bunnies heartland – La Perouse. A raw player, patiently slow-cooked into a genuine first grade centre. Yet, here he is, being treated like nothing more than a cell on an Excel spreadsheet. Ctrl-X. The sums weren’t adding up. Ctrl-X. Rusty says he’ll never do chequebook rugby league like the Roosters, but Excel spreadsheet rugby league is worse. At least in a cheque there is an inherent promise, and the promise is kept. In the new soulless Bunnies, you’re only a Ctrl-X away from being unceremoniously dumped when something better comes along.

I think if the current group of players did some soul-searching they may all eventually follow the sage advice offered to Joe Galuvao, when Rusty wanted to Ctrl-X him with a year left on his contract – quit Souths and join a seminary.

Douchebag post of the year. This is one of the ones I'll be digging up when we win a premiership.

You are truly a woeful, ignorant character. Heart and loyalty are the foundation of premierships. And before the razzle dazzle and bandwagon fans of the russell era what true souths fans could reflect on with pride as part of their culture.
All the best to the true and decent souths fans next season, but all the worst to imposters like you.

I said "your" heart and loyalty, I said f**k to the definitions of heart and loyalty that morons were throwing up, not heart and loyalty itself.

The pride in our culture is the fact that we're the most successful team in history. A culture of winning. We dominated from 1908 to 1971. But since then the way we've done things hasn't worked. 1972-2005 proves that. I'm happy Crowe is doing things differently and I'm confident that success awaits.

As for the "imposter" tag, you're just a petty little loser. You don't know me, you don't know that I've been a Souths fan for as long as I've known of footy. So get a life, it's better than throwing uneducated insults at people you don't know.

It's funny cause you won't win any more premierships.

Inglis (0 premierships) + Souffs (0 premierships in 20 years) = 0 premierships????

Wanna bet? Impending success is around the corner. Anyone with eyes can see it.

Im struggling to see how that post is in ANYWAY related to my quip about SuperLeague? Show me where people have NO problems with a player leaving for big money elsewhere?? (cutie and Izzy for example are hated more than Hitler on these boards, and SBW is considered worse than all three).

My comment was that Souths have turned into the very thing they purported to be against, a cashed up "win at all costs" corporate machine.

And my comment was about how Souths is nothing like superleague. Superleague tried to turn footy into a for profit business when it never was and never will be about that. Crowe is trying turn Souths into being in the business of winning, there's a difference between doing whatever it takes to win premiership (the essense of why we have this league) and trying to turn this sport into a profitable arm of a corporation (something completely alien to the game).

It doesnt work like that for Souths, the salary cap isn't forcing out the local talent, Russel Crowe is forcing them out by signing million dollar players. If you're okay with that then you really should be ashamed to call yourself a fan. I bet you next year we'll see something along the lines of; "Geddes & Lowe released, Souths sign Johnathan Thurston." The Rabbioths are the biggest disgrace of the NRL the way they treat their players. It doesn't matter how long you've been at the club, if you you're not a "star" you're most probably gonna get told to go elsewhere. How can you support that?

I'm "okay with" doing what it takes to win a premiership. Having Inglis and giving up Champion for him helps us in our chase for a premiership in my view. And because of that I'm completely for the move.

And we are not a "disgrace", we (like every other club) are simply making the best 25 man squad we can that will hopefully win us a grand final in October. That's what we're doing, that's what everyone else does.

BunniesMan : i really like Souths and i would love to see them do well next year, but do you really think the signing of one player is a sure premiership? it's a bit more complicated than that mate.

It doesn't begin and end with Inglis certainly. But I think he's a huge asset we didn't have last year. As well as the Inglis factor there is the fact that we have another year of expierience under the belt of young players like Luke, Burgess, Taylor, Sandow and others. Increased competition for spots from players coming in from Toyota cup, as well as some luck from the injury gods.

All those factors combined will hopefully get us a premiership. Not just Inglis, but him combined with other factors.

The 2 are completley different thing you f**king moron. When a player leaves for a better pay packet it's 99% at the end of his contract, not mid contract. If Souffs had've let Champion go when his contract was finished then i can guarantee you wouldn't be copping anywhere near the amount of sh*t that the club is now as that happens every season.

I'm not one bit at all surprised you tried to compare the 2 situation because yes, you really are that stoopid and nothing that comes from you these days surprises me anymore :lol:

You make it sound like we tore up his contract and flushed it down the toilet. He was able to get a longer contract and more money. And we couldn't have forced him to leave if he didn't find a better contract. So get over yourself and stop making it sound like we've ruined Champion's life.

 

[Kiki]

i honestly think if Souths can get some consistency and some luck with injuries they are a good chance in 2011.