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http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/...eam-raids-new-zealands-rugby-union-youngsters

How the Canberra rugby league team raids New Zealand's rugby union youngsters
DAVID POLKINGHORNE

Last updated 20:37, February 22 2017

He once lured All Blacks star Nehe Milner-Skudder to the Canterbury Bulldogs and now Canberra Raiders recruitment director Peter Mulholland is raiding the next batch of New Zealand rugby union young guns.

Under-20s players Paul Roache and Mikaele Ravalawa have moved to Canberra after coming through the New Zealand schoolboy rugby system and Mulholland said it was just another cog in the Green Machine's overall recruitment strategy.

It's not something new for Mulholland, who also lured Milner-Skudder into the Bulldogs' under-20s system before he went on to become one of the best wingers in world rugby.

He also went after Roache's Mount Albert Grammar teammate Niven Longopoa, an exciting fullback, but said he'd missed out on him to Super Rugby's Waikato Chiefs - although he vowed he'd "keep working on him, don't worry".

The Raiders recruitment boss used Milner-Skudder as a selling point to bring Roache and Ravalawa across the ditch, but also the success and culture Canberra coach Ricky Stuart has established.

Unfortunately, Roache suffered a similar injury to Raiders captain Jarrod Croker at training and will miss six months after needing surgery on the knee he dislocated at training.

"I did it with Milner-Skudder, the All Black, I took him over to Canterbury and he had two seasons in the NYC and when I left Canterbury he went back to rugby union and became an All Black," Mulholland said.

"Kids in New Zealand can also see our development programme as a pathway, not just into the NRL but also to go back and play club level rugby union.

"He's been a great example of that for us and that was a good selling point. What Ricky's done in Canberra has also sold it to a couple of these young players, which has been tremendous."

Mulholland said New Zealand's production line of rugby stars meant it was an obvious recruitment target, given the Kiwis have "dominated a particular code of rugby for the last 30 or 40 years".

Roache was the New Zealand schoolboys first five-eighth, while Fijian Ravalawa went to school at Burnside College in Christchurch.

As an added bonus, any recruit that's under 21 and been brought across from rugby union doesn't count towards the salary cap for their first year at an NRL club.

"You're talking about a country that's dominated a particular code of rugby for the last 30 or 40 years and their first-choice athletes are very, very good," Mulholland said.

"Plus the school system there basically educates them in every facet of it - values, education, the whole works.

"They've been through wonderful programmes and they're usually the first choice athletes in New Zealand.

"Paul Roache ... was a New Zealand schoolboys five-eight and he's very, very good. He's been through a great school, been through a great programme so they're the reasons you look at them."

With the go-home factor a potential problem, the Raiders sent welfare manager David Thom over with Mulholland to talk to the potential targets to ensure they had the best chance of successfully relocating.

Mulholland said Canberra was an easy sell to a lot of young Kiwis, especially those in the country, because it wasn't a massive city like Sydney.

He said the club's success last season, plus the proposed new training complex at Braddon, were also lures.

While talk of Milner-Skudder sets the bar high, Mulholland said they weren't setting any unrealistic goals.

"No expectations. I think it's about how they settle in and what they're doing. Their ability is no problem, it's about adapting to the game and adapting to the lifestyle here and it's pretty easy," he said.

"We took our welfare manager to New Zealand when we met with these kids and their families. There's some kids that we interviewed that we just wouldn't bring back.

"They were great players, they just weren't suited to relocation. Whereas these boys were absolutely perfectly placed for it."


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El Diablo

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he'll bitch and moan in the presser despite all the leg ups he got like a player who should have been in the bin scoring a try
 

Pete Cash

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I thought we played pretty good all things considering *shrug*

Not a big fan of how dirty jordan and joey were
 

AlwaysGreen

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Please stop putting Clay Priest in the side. 97kg props don't cut it in the modern game unless they've got SBW like ball skills. The bloke was getting tossed around out there like a rag doll

He might be the nicest bloke in the history of the world but there's a reason why he didn't make first grade until he was 27.
 

Desert Qlder

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The 'woe is us' routine in the press conference was tiresome considering how poorly his side behaved. But he's got to back his players I guess.
 

El Diablo

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Of course its El Diablo to bump it. Probably had the thread open in a tab and post ready to go all game. :joy:
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Cartman

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Lost against the Cowboys in Townsville in GP, worst coach ever. I plan on gouging out my eyes so as to never see another Ricky coached side again.
 

Perth Red

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Hard done to, refs seemed far more pedantic for raiders. I thought they looked very Impressive, will be surprised if they arent pushing for a top 4 spot.

And re Ricky, he sits on the bench not in a box, that in itself gives him large kudos.
 

Spot On

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The 'woe is us' routine in the press conference was tiresome considering how poorly his side behaved. But he's got to back his players I guess.

Thought they would have
learnt something from the prelim final loss last season.

Apparently not - yet.
 
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What a gallant effort from the boys considering how one sided the refs were. I couldn't be prouder, and I have the great R. Stuart to thank for that. The spirit he has developed in the club is phenomenal. Best coach in the world.

Whatever he said in the press conference was justified.

Oh and Gavin Cooper has had it coming for a loooong time, and Cummins still lets Thurston walk all over him. Weak.
 

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