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Opinion Is Ricky Stuart the most overrated coach ever?

Quicksilver

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Take a look at the video if you like. The ball is played about a metre off the 20 metre line. The Cronulla defence ends up at the same distance from the 10 metre line and they are retreating the whole time.

And no one is ever even touched.
 

Vee

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Anyone have a link to Sutton's explanation of why the try should not have been awarded ?
 

Vee

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The NRL referees boss literally said the pass was OK.

So whatever else you want to try and read into for your own agenda, you can.

The phrase “but in this instance” acts to distance his statement of “I believe the pass is OK” from the obligatory subjective call part

Effectively he’s saying “forward passes are often subjective and tough to assess on replay given the deceptive camera angles, but in this case it’s clear a mistake was made, the pass was ok”
No, that's not what he's effectively saying at all. But don't let us stop you slanting it to suit your argument.
 

nick87

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Take a look at the video if you like. The ball is played about a metre off the 20 metre line. The Cronulla defence ends up at the same distance from the 10 metre line and they are retreating the whole time.

And no one is ever even touched.

Whitehead is tackled, Beej jumps out of hooker, has to alter his run due to an offside player, looks like #10... straight away the play has been impacted.
But we play on, he crabs across field, there is no three players outside Beej with the ball, only one of which (the closest to him #3) gets even close to getting back onside, the other two players are in an offside position and impacting the play

Also the pass was not forward, as per the NRL Referee's boss, so it doesnt even matter!

I have honestly never seen anything like this in all my time on LU. Unfathomable levels of density, how do you mouth breathers get out of bed in the morning with assistance?!
 

nick87

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No, that's not what he's effectively saying at all. But don't let us stop you slanting it to suit your argument.

Why does he use the phrase "but in this instance" if not to exclude it from his previous statements?
He's saying generally forward passes are subjective and hard to assess on replay but in this case the pass was ok.

For your information:

BUT
  1. used to introduce a phrase or clause contrasting with what has already been mentioned.
    "he stumbled but didn't fall"
    synonyms: yet; More
Or as you have used it in that very post. Haha!

"That's not what he's saying. BUT dont let us stop you..."
 

Quicksilver

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Whitehead is tackled, Beej jumps out of hooker, has to alter his run due to an offside player, looks like #10... straight away the play has been impacted.
But we play on, he crabs across field, there is no three players outside Beej with the ball, only one of which (the closest to him #3) gets even close to getting back onside, the other two players are in an offside position and impacting the play

Also the pass was not forward, as per the NRL Referee's boss, so it doesnt even matter!

I have honestly never seen anything like this in all my time on LU. Unfathomable levels of density, how do you mouth breathers get out of bed in the morning with assistance?!

He is running at a player who is retreating with his back turned and he does not touch him. I think it's what they'd probably call milking.

Canberra Milk. Mmmmmmmm..

I think we were all crying about players doing this off tap kick a couple of weeks ago.

Chad Townsend is the only one that doesn't get back but he is waaaaaay behind the Canberra attacking line and nowhere near having any influence on the play.

But a nice try.

I actually really want to give you guys the two points now. You have been very spirited.
 
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Generalzod

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You know I find Ricky Stuart to the most hypocritical coach this bloke instigated the gang tackle wrestle when he was coaching the Roosters actually helped them win a premiership, Now that he is coaching the Raiders he is now complaining about about cleaning the ruck...Can you believe this bloke
 

carcharias

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Whitehead is tackled, Beej jumps out of hooker, has to alter his run due to an offside player, looks like #10... straight away the play has been impacted.
But we play on, he crabs across field, there is no three players outside Beej with the ball, only one of which (the closest to him #3) gets even close to getting back onside, the other two players are in an offside position and impacting the play

Also the pass was not forward, as per the NRL Referee's boss, so it doesnt even matter!

I have honestly never seen anything like this in all my time on LU. Unfathomable levels of density, how do you mouth breathers get out of bed in the morning with assistance?!

What a load of rubbish

The sharks player is allowed to run back onside.
He didn’t change direction at all.
Then the pass was thrown forward
The ref was right behind it a called it forward straight away.
 

nick87

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Sharks fans are drooling idiots, who dont seem to know what they are talking about, but Frailty appears to have a good handle on this.

See how that works, guys? See how the but is used to introduce a phrase that is contrasting the previous statements.
 

nick87

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Then the pass was thrown forward
The ref was right behind it a called it forward straight away.

The pass was thrown backwards, as the video shows and the referee's boss has confirmed.
The ref was right behind it, and called it straight away, he called it incorrectly, as the referee's boss has confirmed.
 

Generalzod

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Sharks fans are drooling idiots, who dont seem to know what they are talking about, but Frailty appears to have a good handle on this.

See how that works, guys? See how the but is used to introduce a phrase that is contrasting the previous statements.
So what exactly are you doing if not Drooling....calling the Kettle phew!!
 

Quicksilver

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Sharks fans are drooling idiots, who dont seem to know what they are talking about, but Frailty appears to have a good handle on this.

See how that works, guys? See how the but is used to introduce a phrase that is contrasting the previous statements.

Mate please stop.

This is embarrassing, for you.

Good luck in the finals. I actually still think you guys will make it.
 

AJB1102

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See how that works, guys? See how the but is used to introduce a phrase that is contrasting the previous statements.

Let me try..

The refs boss confirmed the pass was ok, but Raiders still lost.

Am I getting the hang of it?
 

nick87

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Let me try..

The refs boss confirmed the pass was ok, but Raiders still lost.

Am I getting the hang of it?
Yes!
That’s progress

People who know him say Ricky Stuart is a good bloke, but I think he’s a f**king shitbag and should resign
 

carcharias

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The pass was thrown backwards, as the video shows and the referee's boss has confirmed.
The ref was right behind it, and called it straight away, he called it incorrectly, as the referee's boss has confirmed.

Ha
So he called the pass incorrectly and the no try correctly

Suits your pathetic excuse for losing I suppose.
 

Eion

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Are these raiders fans still whinging? How about you don’t leak 22 points by half time in effectively a ‘must win’ game. It was only wade graham coming off at half time, and general apathy from the sharks, that gave you any sort of chance.
 

carcharias

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Are these raiders fans still whinging? How about you don’t leak 22 points by half time in effectively a ‘must win’ game. It was only wade graham coming off at half time, and general apathy from the sharks, that gave you any sort of chance.
Plus the ref cheated
 

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