Opinion Is Ricky Stuart the most overrated coach ever?

[nick87]

They also scored one off a forward pass.

Which try?

 

[El Diablo]

Which try?

all of them

 

[super_coach]

The ball didn’t touch his hands of arms
Every single camera clearly showed it just went straight through.
The ball didn’t move nor did his fingers.

Hey
It was bloody close.
At the game we just thought he touched it and the ref had blown the whistle.
Myself and my mates didn’t know about the flag bit until I watched the replay and heard the commentary.

If the ref did go with the touch judge it would’ve been an incorrect call.
I bet Ricky wouldn’t have stuck up the Sharks then.

It looked ordinary but you gotta play the whistle.
Raiders scored a try off a quick tap before the ref had finished giving the penalty.
They also scored one off a forward pass.
Ricky seems cool with those decisions.
Both could’ve been called back.

When the side line official puts his flag up it is a mandatory stop in play, no if or buts. The fact that it was or was not a fair try has nothing to do with it. The play should have stopped end of story. It’s pretty simple really and 99% of people seem to understand

 

[carcharias]

When the side line official puts his flag up it is a mandatory stop in play, no if or buts. The fact that it was or was not a fair try has nothing to do with it. The play should have stopped end of story. It’s pretty simple really and 99% of people seem to understand

It’s 2018
That’s what the bunkers for.

The ref obviously thought he didn’t touch it.
Otherwise he would’ve blown the whistle.

 

[squiddy]

When the side line official puts his flag up it is a mandatory stop in play, no if or buts. The fact that it was or was not a fair try has nothing to do with it. The play should have stopped end of story. It’s pretty simple really and 99% of people seem to understand

What 99% of people don’t seem to understand is why did the touchie put his flag up ?

First touchie I’ve ever seen raise his flag for a knock on , called it yes but raise a flag NO ,

There was a view he thought Katoa might have gone out but he was inside , important to not too how long flag was in the air . Maybe half a second perhaps , not long enough to respond to anything

No audio of touchie saying knock on , no audio of Sutton saying anything , play on in every ones books , except raiders who didn’t play to the whistle and it bit them on the bum , raiders played for a knock on that wasn’t there

Fair try

 

[bileduct]

Fair try

The NRL disagrees.

 

[The Great Dane]

The NRL disagrees.

The NRL and everybody who isn't a one-eyed fool disagrees...

 

[skeepe]

What 99% of people don’t seem to understand is why did the touchie put his flag up ?

First touchie I’ve ever seen raise his flag for a knock on , called it yes but raise a flag NO ,

There was a view he thought Katoa might have gone out but he was inside , important to not too how long flag was in the air . Maybe half a second perhaps , not long enough to respond to anything

No audio of touchie saying knock on , no audio of Sutton saying anything , play on in every ones books , except raiders who didn’t play to the whistle and it bit them on the bum , raiders played for a knock on that wasn’t there

Fair try

The try would not have been scored but for the unnatural interruption.

If play had been stopped when the flag went up as the rules say it should have been, we wouldn’t have gotten as far as Katoa placing the ball over the line.

The fact that Sharks fans don’t understand this shows that the Shire is a massive intellectual black hole.

What a bunch of twonks.

 

[Vee]

Certainly.

Section 16, rule 8.1(f)

The Referee shall blow his whistle
when any irregularity, not provided for in these Laws, occurs and one team unjustifiably gains an
advantage

Cheers. I guess we just have to agree on whether one team unjustifiably gained an advantage or whether Canberra should have just played the whistle.

 

[THE CHAMP]

What 99% of people don’t seem to understand is why did the touchie put his flag up ?

First touchie I’ve ever seen raise his flag for a knock on , called it yes but raise a flag NO ,

There was a view he thought Katoa might have gone out but he was inside , important to not too how long flag was in the air . Maybe half a second perhaps , not long enough to respond to anything

No audio of touchie saying knock on , no audio of Sutton saying anything , play on in every ones books , except raiders who didn’t play to the whistle and it bit them on the bum , raiders played for a knock on that wasn’t there

Fair try

No.

 

[Cherry_poppins]

I'd blow a donkey for Ricky Stuart to coach us instead of this shit haircut having merkin

 

[Canard]

What 99% of people don’t seem to understand is why did the touchie put his flag up ?

First touchie I’ve ever seen raise his flag for a knock on , called it yes but raise a flag NO ,

There was a view he thought Katoa might have gone out but he was inside , important to not too how long flag was in the air . Maybe half a second perhaps , not long enough to respond to anything

No audio of touchie saying knock on , no audio of Sutton saying anything , play on in every ones books , except raiders who didn’t play to the whistle and it bit them on the bum , raiders played for a knock on that wasn’t there

Fair try

Can you tell me where the confirmation of no audio is?

Also what's your thoughts on the Bunker overruling the referee, which the NRL have confirmed was incorrect.

 

[nick87]

Cheers. I guess we just have to agree on whether one team unjustifiably gained an advantage or whether Canberra should have just played the whistle.

Why can’t it be both?
Why can’t the raiders be criticised for not playing to the whistle and we still accept it shouldn’t have mattered since the issue was referred to the bunker, who inexplicably missed the raised flag and over turned the call without conclusive evidence

Both can, and in fact, are true

There was four f**k ups here

1. The touchie raising his flag
2. The on field official not stopping the game when he did
3. The raiders not playing to the whistle
4. The bunker overruling the call without sufficient and conclusive evidence to do so AND missing the procedural error that negates the entire knock on fiasco

One of those 4 is on the raiders and they have to own up to that. But the other 3 need to be acknowledged

 

[Spade]

If I'm not mistsken it was Luke Patten again in the bunker? biggest spastic in the video box going, should have been sacked 3 years ago.

 

[El Diablo]

bring back the grey ghost or is he dead?

 

[bileduct]

4. The bunker overruling the call without sufficient and conclusive evidence to do so AND missing the procedural error that negates the entire knock on fiasco

This is the part that stuns me.

Ok, I might be able to be convinced to believe that the two onfield referees that were facing the touch judge both somehow miss the flag being raised, but how the f**k does the bunker miss it?

When referring a call to the video ref, the main ref usually only asks for one or two things to be looked at yet the f**kers still go through the entire play. This must have been the only time they didn't.

 

[nick87]

Yeah im WAY more f**king furious about the Bunker than i am the on field official or touchie

the touchie made an honest mistake, the ref reacted to it in real time in a way i think made sense in the moment...

the bunker is there to clean up this mess and make sure it's not a story... and they just f**king blew it haha

And yet the BJ forward pass call was even more annoying... those calls cost us the game on the score board, but the reality is our first half performance actually cost us the football game
And the season was decided long before this game, we weren't going f**king anywhere the halves as they are, the coach as they are and ultimately, the club as it is.

 

[Cherry_poppins]

Yeah im WAY more f**king furious about the Bunker than i am the on field official or touchie

the touchie made an honest mistake, the ref reacted to it in real time in a way i think made sense in the moment...

the bunker is there to clean up this mess and make sure it's not a story... and they just f**king blew it haha

And yet the BJ forward pass call was even more annoying... those calls cost us the game on the score board, but the reality is our first half performance actually cost us the football game
And the season was decided long before this game, we weren't going f**king anywhere the halves as they are, the coach as they are and ultimately, the club as it is.

Feel for you guys tbh

Even f**king Skeepe

If you dumb merkins aren't f**king yourselves over then it's the geniused officials

You have a good crack one year, get minorly f**ked here and there, sign a bunch of good players for big coin preparing for a big go at the premiership and they collectively decide to play like a bunch of f**king potatoes

 

[nick87]

This is who we are Cherry
Who we'll likely always be. Ive come to terms with that.

To win a premiership in today's NRL, the Raiders would need to have EVERYTHING go in their favour or unearth the next JT/Smith level superstar... which isnt too dissimilar to half the league tbh... but we do ourselves no favours by maintaining a jobs for the boys board, which retains a proven failure at CEO, and hires a thrice failed old boy HC, after sacking a rookie old boy HC weeks prior

We have a lot stacked against us, clubs in big markets undoubtedly have significant advantages over our club which can not be understated... but until we sort our shit out, that's white noise. It doesn't matter because we could be in f**king Paris,and the other 15 franchises located on the Garza strip and we still wouldnt win a league with this set up

 

[nick87]

It's really not even Ricky Stuart's fault when you get to the brass tax, right?
I mean sure, he can't coach, he whinges, he's a walking meme... we all have a good laugh.., great but who do you blame for this?

The guy being offered really good money to sit in a position he's woefully unqualified for, or the system that allows this guy to be "head hunted"?

It's easy to crack wise at Stuart. But im woefully unqualified to coach an NRL but ill take the f**king money and opportunity to have a crack if offered it, and i'd keep taking cheques as long as they cleared.

And probably long after they didnt, haha.
The problem is not the coach, really. It's the system that allows us to get here, and stay here. And continue to repeat those mistakes