Is St George Illawarra Still A Joint Venture Club

[muzby]

When we merged they stopped calling us Saints.

I refer to us as Saints, and I was a Steeler in the pre-99 world.

 

[Dennis Papaioannou]

When we merged they stopped calling us Saints.

too bad so sad...

 

[Saint_JimmyG]

By selling all their shares to WIN, Illawarra has written themselves out of the joint venture. I would say that there no joint venture anymore. Just like South Sydney is not a joint venture even though they have an investor holding a significant share holding. When Tinkler took over Newcastle it was not a joint venture and the Manly club is not a joint venture.

In my mind the Club is now the St George Dragons and WIN are an investor holding 50% of the shares.

For Jonesy.

 

[Saint_JimmyG]

When we merged they stopped calling us Saints.

The clubs did not merge.

 

[Frank Facer]

I refer to us as Saints, and I was a Steeler in the pre-99 world.

But the media and co stopped calling us Saints.

 

[muzby]

But the media and co stopped calling us Saints.

Funny how perspective can make us view things differently.

For years I'd get the shits when we'd be referred to as St George or Saints and not St George Illawarra..

So it would stick out for me like dogs balls how often the media would call us saints...

 

[ouryears]

Y’know, I attempted to ask the same question in another thread but was ‘dissed’ by Muzby ‘leading’ the way.

It’s a serious matter which relates to our club’s history.

Some clarity would be nice.

Personally, I don’t see how SGI can still operate under the guise of a JV if the one Illawarra Steelers’ Board member cannot exert any voting rights which are bereft of substance.

Muzby acts like he is god, disses all except the apologists.
Staff member, sack nugget, sack doust, sack muzby.

 

[Saint_JimmyG]

But the media and co stopped calling us Saints.

Not true.

 

[ouryears]

Funny how perspective can make us view things differently.

For years I'd get the shits when we'd be referred to as St George or Saints and not St George Illawarra..

So it would stick out for me like dogs balls how often the media would call us saints...

Always Saints, Illawarra is at the end of the sentence for good reason.
It’s the word we all need to drop off.
St George Dragons.
Sounds perfect.

 

[muzby]

Muzby acts like he is god, disses all except the apologists.
Staff member, sack nugget, sack doust, sack muzby.

I agree.

That muzby guy is a jerk.

 

[ouryears]

I refer to us as Saints, and I was a Steeler in the pre-99 world.

Of course you were.
Won anything pre 1999?
Nope.

 

[muzby]

Always Saints, Illawarra is at the end of the sentence for good reason.
It’s the word we all need to drop off.
St George Dragons.
Sounds perfect.

Nah, you gotta follow the $$$ and look after those that pay the bills.

 

[Saintsified]

When super league and ARL merged and formed the NRL they took on the side with the bigger history ie ARL's . How is it so when the same thing happened with St George and Illawarra that they scrapped the Saints history from continuing. Double standards or our directors were just weak as piss. This can be corrected with strong leadership.

 

[ouryears]

St George saved Illawarra by inviting them a lifeline. Illawarra could not pay their way and eventually sold their shares to WIN. WIN is now an investor and St George Leagues Club is the other investor. Illawarra took the cash and paid its debts. Illawarra no long hold any shares so are no longer an owner and so no longer have a say and so are no longer in the NRL..

Perfect possum
Frankly I have never thought of us as St George Illawarra
Always St George Dragons
Saints
St George
Dragons
Never does the word Illawarra even enter my mind.
Except when we lose like we are losing now.....and I realise Illawarra have brought us down to their level.
But we can rise again, whereas Illawarra now have no team.

 

[SaintPauli]

St George saved Illawarra by inviting them a lifeline. Illawarra could not pay their way and eventually sold their shares to WIN. WIN is now an investor and St George Leagues Club is the other investor. Illawarra took the cash and paid its debts. Illawarra no long hold any shares so are no longer an owner and so no longer have a say and so are no longer in the NRL..

Technically spot on.
So can the powers who be at NRL
Clarify this and state that Dragons has 16 Premierships

 

[Saintsified]

Good way to alienate a chunk of your fan base.

We had more standalone. Fans didn't double when the merge happened, we didn't all of a sudden double our income or crowds. Both sides lost fans as well.

The only merge benefit was the first year when we had double the cap , but they f**ked us over , superclub they said. Bullshit they cut us in half, if STGI remained double the cap and that was the trade off for merging then it may of been worth it. As it stands all mergers became rabble.

 

[ouryears]

I agree.

That muzby guy is a jerk.

Like an Aldi team member
Annoying, lazy, and poor communication skills.

 

[muzby]

Like an Aldi team member
Annoying, lazy, and poor communication skills.

But awesome special buys twice a week!

You seem like the kind of guy who needs a new BBQ.

 

[SaintPauli]

When super league and ARL merged and formed the NRL they took on the side with the bigger history ie ARL's . How is it so when the same thing happened with St George and Illawarra that they scrapped the Saints history from continuing. Double standards or our directors were just weak as piss. This can be corrected with strong leadership.

Yeah the same NRL who we stood by during the super league war!

 

[Saintsified]

Yeah the same NRL who we stood by during the super league war!

I at the time wanted us to go super league, we made a grave mistake sticking with ARL.