Isaac Luke at it again

Fast Eddie · Oct 30, 2011

:? He wasn't implying that, he said that grubs shouldn't be complaining about 'grubby' tactics.

Pierced Soul · Oct 30, 2011

Luke's a dog. the powers thta be need to stamp out this dangerous "tackle". if it had been an aussie doing this to marshall we'd never ehar the end of it.

p.s. nice to see the kiwi's still have decided the only way to try and win a game this year is through cheap shots rather than trying to play footy

Fast Eddie · Oct 30, 2011

Haha righto.

roughyedspud · Oct 30, 2011

its true :lol:

Joker's Wild · Oct 30, 2011

If the roles were reversed and Cam Smith had taken Matalinos legs out that way, plenty of Kiwis would be screaming bloody murder

It is a totally legal play, no doubt, but that doesnt make it less dangerous and unnecessary.

Marshall_magic · Oct 30, 2011

ceagle said:
So the chicken wing tackle and others weren't dirty before they were outlawed?

of course it wasn't and the day they outlawed it, it magically became dirty.

edabomb · Oct 31, 2011

Funny how you never see any tacklers launching themselves at players legs from front on. Front on they seem to always make the tackle much more conventionally - wrapping their arms round the legs rather than launching themselves at the legs.

The intent is pretty clear cut IMO.

doogiehowser_md · Oct 31, 2011

Outlaw tackling round the legs!

hitman82 · Oct 31, 2011

I complained quite a lot when ??? that Eels winger launched at Vatuvei's knee in round 1 and broke it. So I guess I should apply the same thing to Luke.
However, if it's within the rules - do it.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/5876625/T-Rex-vows-vengeance-on-dirty-Kiwis

Kangaroos strike forward Tony "T-Rex" Williams has vowed to repay the Kiwis for their "dirty" tactics in yesterday's fiery encounter at Halliwell Jones Stadium if the two teams meet in the Four Nations final.

While most of the chorus of Aussie complaints after the game centred on Issac Luke's "cannonball" tackle on David Shillington and late shots on kickers, Williams was unhappy with the Kiwis for other tactics.

The Kangaroos suffered a high injury toll with Shillington (ankle), Willie Tonga (hip) and Anthony Watmough (elbow) all in doubt for next weekend's clash with England at Wembley, while Cooper Cronk has a broken nose.

Williams scored a try with his first touch of the ball but he was still unhappy after the win because of what he saw as dirty play.

"Play hard but don't play dirty," Williams said. "Jared Waerea-Hargreaves and all of those guys ... that was something I don't like and I will back up my boys any time.

"I don't think it was suitable and we will just have to give it back to them. Hopefully we will have a chance to verse them, I would love to verse them again."

The loss leaves the Kiwis needing to beat both Wales and England in the next two weeks if they are to have any chance of retaining the Four Nations title they won last year.

Australian coach Tim Sheens claimed it wasn't until prop Matt Scott came to the aid of Cowboys team-mate Johnathan Thurston after a late shot by Jeremy Smith that English referee Phil Bentham took action.

"I don't know what sort of instructions he was working under but I thought it was close to exploding ...

"If things don't happen officially they will happen unofficially as players tend to work those things out."

Meanwhile, The Kiwis are refusing to pat themselves on the back for a much-improved performance against Australia in yesterday's Four Nations opener at Warrington.

I had a great chuckle at T-Rex's rant in the paper - not even sure what he's going on about tbh. JWH plays hard but I wouldn't call him a grub.

Pierced Soul · Oct 31, 2011

hitman82 said:
JWH plays hard but I wouldn't call him a grub.

guess you've never watched jwh play then :sarcasm:

Izz · Oct 31, 2011

Scott was having a whinge on nrl.com today, too. Must be a Sheen's team strategy.

I can understand some of the whinging about the Luke tackle (though i didn't think it was as bad as some are making out), but the whinging about Jeremy Smith hitting Thurston late? That's bollocks. Smith jumped to charge the kick down. He was in the air. Missed the ball, turned his body in an attempt to lessen impact. What was he supposed to do? Magically bend the laws of physics and change his trajectory?

Izz · Oct 31, 2011

Joker's Wild said:
If the roles were reversed and Cam Smith had taken Matalinos legs out that way, plenty of Kiwis would be screaming bloody murder

It is a totally legal play, no doubt, but that doesnt make it less dangerous and unnecessary.

I thought trying to destroy the legs was a Cam Smith special.

hitman82 · Oct 31, 2011

Pierced Soul said:
guess you've never watched jwh play then :sarcasm:

I meant in this particular game - he was more aggressive than dirty imho.

Joker's Wild · Oct 31, 2011

Izz said:
I thought trying to destroy the legs was a Cam Smith special.

Huh? Everyone knows that the neck is Cams specialist area :roll:

Izz · Oct 31, 2011

Joker's Wild said:
Huh? Everyone knows that the neck is Cams specialist area :roll:

He's just evolving his game, like all the great players.

Ram Man · Oct 31, 2011

I remember a Riley Brown tackle a few years ago that was similar to this incident, not the same I know but similar with a tackler trying to finish a tackle off and people crying about that as well.
Its not the safest tackle in the book because careers can be finished as an outcome and Luke has form but I find it a bit rich with Thaiday, always the 5th bloke into a scrap, whinging about this

ozenzud · Oct 31, 2011

I dunno how old some of the posters here are, but what a laugh, hearing people talk about "dirty" tactics in test football.

Test footy years ago was full of cheap shots, elbows, head highs and fist punches.

RL is cleaner by a country mile to what it was. Compare Adam Blair and Stewarts fight to the Manly/Newtown brawl of I think 81. Led by Tommy R. There was no comparison. We have come a long way.

George Rose's elbow in the GF was far worse than Luke's tackle. It had one intention. To hurt or maim. No other reason. Would have been a penalty or send off even in the 80's! He should have gone.

Luke's was more or less a legit tackle. There is a margin of error, but he was clearly making an aggressive, around the legs tackle. The point being to put a big bloke down. If Shillington is fighting in the tackle and not surrendering, he can be tackled. Ref got it right.

Izz · Oct 31, 2011

ozenzud said:
I dunno how old some of the posters here are, but what a laugh, hearing people talk about "dirty" tactics in test football.

Test footy years ago was full of cheap shots, elbows, head highs and fist punches.

RL is cleaner by a country mile to what it was. Compare Adam Blair and Stewarts fight to the Manly/Newtown brawl of I think 81. Led by Tommy R. There was no comparison. We have come a long way.

George Rose's elbow in the GF was far worse than Luke's tackle. It had one intention. To hurt or maim. No other reason. Would have been a penalty or send off even in the 80's! He should have gone.

Luke's was more or less a legit tackle. There is a margin of error, but he was clearly making an aggressive, around the legs tackle. The point being to put a big bloke down. If Shillington is fighting in the tackle and not surrendering, he can be tackled. Ref got it right.

+1 million!

langpark · Oct 31, 2011

doogiehowser_md said:
Outlaw tackling round the legs!

idiot...

If you can't distinguish between a textbook rugby league tackle around the legs and a straight up cheapshot, then something is seriously wrong...

Usain Bolt · Oct 31, 2011

lol @ T-Rex mouthing off. the biggest cat in the game who stands in the centres and runs at the smallest guy trying to talk tough. Didn't see him do anything about it on the field. JWH would of knocked him out

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