"It’s very realistic to say that we’ll have a second team in Brisbane in 2023": V'landys

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I think @Get Rid of The Donkeys was applying Paul gallen’s own litmus test of accepting any new expansion team to that of gallen’s own sharks who didn’t compete/win a premiership for 50 years since entering the professional ranks in 1967.

Exactly. Cronulla were an expansion team, eating into St George's territory. St George were a very successful team until Cronulla entered the league. Then both teams became strugglers. I was using the history of both clubs to show Gallen was being a hypocrite. All of this went over @MugaB head.

 

[MugaB]

Exactly. Cronulla were an expansion team, eating into St George's territory. St George were a very successful team until Cronulla entered the league. Then both teams became strugglers. I was using the history of both clubs to show Gallen was being a hypocrite. All of this went over @MugaB head.

Whatever pal,when the NSWRL expanded the league in '67, because back then there was a huge junior presence in and around St.Georges catchment, hence why they were so strong a decade leading up to it, some of of the more famous dragons were from the shire area, so introducing a second team in the area was a given, same happened in regards to manly in '47 when there was an influx of players from the northern sydney, now back then you had to play for the team in your catchment, nowadays that's not a thing, especially in professional era.

Gallens a moron, his views are myoptic to those of only whats happening in the current week or season. Player talent is subjective, so he cannot say there is isn't enough of it, especially when reece walsh and sam walker were sitting in reserve grade at the broncos last year twiddling their thumbs... hence the need to expand into QLD in my opinion moreso

 

[flippikat]

Player talent is subjective, so he cannot say there is isn't enough of it, especially when reece walsh and sam walker were sitting in reserve grade at the broncos last year twiddling their thumbs... hence the need to expand into QLD in my opinion moreso

The key thing to keep in mind is that Covid has wrecked the 2nd tier & lower competitions - and probably a fair bit of disruption to age grades too.

If the fringe players & youngsters can't get regular game time because their competition keeps being disrupted, of course it's gonna look like we have no depth.

Skills, fitness, mental attitude will all be dulled by that.

Give it a year or two with those lower levels of the structure operating again, and the game will regenerate.

 

[MugaB]

The key thing to keep in mind is that Covid has wrecked the 2nd tier & lower competitions - and probably a fair bit of disruption to age grades too.

If the fringe players & youngsters can't get regular game time because their competition keeps being disrupted, of course it's gonna look like we have no depth.

Skills, fitness, mental attitude will all be dulled by that.

Give it a year or two with those lower levels of the structure operating again, and the game will regenerate.

More teams at top flight means more players playing at top flight, so expansion can happen with or without covid disruptions, yes reserve grade has been put off, but adding another team in SEQ won't hamper that

 

[Pippen94]

NRL just got to do it. Add dolphins then Perth a short while after.
Clubs will always oppose expansion but bugger them, got to do what's good for game

 

[flippikat]

More teams at top flight means more players playing at top flight, so expansion can happen with or without covid disruptions, yes reserve grade has been put off, but adding another team in SEQ won't hamper that

The base will widen to accommodate expansion.

What really brasses me off is people pointing to the current state of the NRL, and saying "we don't have depth for expansion", when it's been Covid's effect on the lower levels of the game that's to blame here - and Covid will pass once vaccination is well sorted out.

 

[Perth Red]

They've being saying not enough depth since expansion was first muted in 2011, nothings changed. Just looking for reasons not to grow as some feel threatened by the prospect of two more big city clubs coming in and their relevance and success shrinking even further.

 

[Jim Rockford]

They've being saying not enough depth since expansion was first muted in 2011

It's mooted Brainiac

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Whatever pal,when the NSWRL expanded the league in '67, because back then there was a huge junior presence in and around St.Georges catchment, hence why they were so strong a decade leading up to it, some of of the more famous dragons were from the shire area, so introducing a second team in the area was a given, same happened in regards to manly in '47 when there was an influx of players from the northern sydney, now back then you had to play for the team in your catchment, nowadays that's not a thing, especially in professional era.

Gallens a moron, his views are myoptic to those of only whats happening in the current week or season. Player talent is subjective, so he cannot say there is isn't enough of it, especially when reece walsh and sam walker were sitting in reserve grade at the broncos last year twiddling their thumbs... hence the need to expand into QLD in my opinion moreso

The BRL operated under similar rules until the 60s or 70s. Players had to live within their club's district. The exception was Pastoral Brothers Leprechauns, with their players needing to have attended a Catholic school.

That system worked great back then, but times have changed. The Sydney model is stuck between an outdated system that doesn't appeal to people any more and full time professionalism in a globalised world, which is dictated by capitalism and is what people prefer because it allows them to see the best athletes. By trying to hold onto something so outdated we've limited the game's growth in new territories, and it is starting to really hurt us as our main competitor has been given a 30 year head start.

I've watched the game for 28 years and I must say, the game's reluctance to get with the times is making it boring and embarrassing. I get angry seeing nine tiny clubs running around each week while there's none in Adelaide and Perth and just one in the world's second largest RL city. It's a massive injustice and it is killing our game, because people outside of NSW aren't interested in watching teams from some obscure LGA/suburb of metropolitan Sydney that they couldn't even locate on a map. Younger generations don't care about the practices of 1967 and will jump on board of the coolest trend, which is AwFuL, NFL and EPL.

 

[MugaB]

If King Wally says it it must be so...

Legends' blockbuster plan for new $100m team

Surprising truth about Brisbane Broncos

wwos.nine.com.au

Dolphins is the frontrunner

 

[Perth Red]

Thaiday zero credability if he thinks this

"I keep going back to Redcliffe because they've got the stadium there. I think it's a perfect-sized stadium for a new team coming into a massive competition

Lewis zero credibility for even mentioning Rockhampton when the license is clearly only going to Brisbane lol

 

[mongoose]

Yep every expert will have their say on expansion.... after putting about 30 seconds of though into it.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

Thaiday…Wally… lol

the nrl remit is…innit?
Play out of suncorp
Represent Brisbane

 

[Hartwood]

The shock move that could shake up NRL expansion race and ambush $100m frontrunner

Shock move that could shake up NRL race and ambush $100m expansion frontrunner

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Foreign Legion]

The shock move that could shake up NRL expansion race and ambush $100m frontrunner

Shock move that could shake up NRL race and ambush $100m expansion frontrunner

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[flippikat]

The shock move that could shake up NRL expansion race and ambush $100m frontrunner

Shock move that could shake up NRL race and ambush $100m expansion frontrunner

www.foxsports.com.au

Hmm... how likely is this to happen, I wonder?

Also, if the Firehawks & Jets combine to run head-to-head against the Dolphins.. would that make the NRL more likely to add both Brisbane bids?

Interesting scenario...

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Hmm... how likely is this to happen, I wonder?

Also, if the Firehawks & Jets combine to run head-to-head against the Dolphins.. would that make the NRL more likely to add both Brisbane bids?

Interesting scenario...

Could it end up being that all three combine for the final product? Would be a formidable rival for the Broncos and any other NRL club for that matter with he Football nouse, juniors, money, assets and some very talented administrators.

 

[toomuchsoup]

Brisbane United

 

[The Great Dane]

Could it end up being that all three combine for the final product? Would be a formidable rival for the Broncos and any other NRL club for that matter with he Football nouse, juniors, money, assets and some very talented administrators.

That'd almost certainly be a recipe for disaster.

Too many chiefs all pulling in different directions is never a good thing. I mean can you imagine the infighting over how many home games are played at each venue each season, how much of each colour's in the jersey, etc, etc. It'd be the worst of West Tigers disfunction on roids as you'd effectively have 4 different ownership groups all pulling in different directions and fighting for dominance over the others.

It'd also severely suffer from trying to be everything to everyone.

 

[The Great Dane]

Whether or not the Ipswich/Bombers bid merging with Easts is a good idea really depends on the ins and outs of the deal.

If there's an expectation of an equal say in club affairs, games played annually in Ipswich, etc, etc, it'd probably end up being more trouble than it's worth IMO.

Easts would probably be better off just beating the Jets in the bidding process, then trying to sign them as an affiliate club when their deal with Newcastle ends. That way all the same benefits would be achieved without risking all the unnecessary BS that goes along with disjointed mergers. We don't need Wests Tigers 2.0.

I don't know much about Wynnum Manly's financial situation, but a marriage between them and Easts, for NRL purposes, would probably be a better fit, assuming that a good deal could be struck and they weren't looking to do anything crazy.