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Jack Bird

grouch

First Grade
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And who's providing the naked appraisal of the practices of the board and chief executive?
 

Cagey Mac

Bench
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Exactly Bird decided to go and Adam Gerard-Tuimavave wanted to come to the club. So get behind Adam and don't worry about Jack. He is now a Shark.

I have heard some Warriors fans speak highly of Adam just like some here speak of Bird. Time will tell who is the better player.

Is he a member of this forum? :sarcasm:
 

The Nick

Bench
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Bird and Hastings were/are dissatisfied junior Dragons. They both made their feelings public and were offered and accepted contracts with other Clubs who seized the opportunity to snap up promising juniors.


Our Club needs to investigate the circumstances related to the non-retension of these players and put in place policy that wll LIMIT such situations happening in the future. Our Club spends a lot of money each year developing juniors and so, we should be able to keep the players we want to keep.

I don't know all the facts however from what I understand, Hastings was always going to go to the Roosters (mainly due to his father?s connection to that Club) and so, he should have be let go much earlier in his development years. This would make way for a more loyal and highly talanted Dragon's junior.

Bird had off field problems regarding support for his family and experienced very tough times. He asked his Club for help and was denied the assistance he needed. Surely a solution could have been found to help him and his family; even if it included provisions for repayment in later years.


It appears you rarely do.
 
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Sometimes players get offers they can't refuse
An example may be ....a parent may have a business that suffers some "bad investment decisions" and the offer the son receives may wipe out said debt thus obliging the player to take a juicier contract more on promise than current ability.
The draw of the club your Dad was a legend at is very strong too.
 

TruSaint

Referee
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Bird and Hastings were/are dissatisfied junior Dragons. They both made their feelings public and were offered and accepted contracts with other Clubs who seized the opportunity to snap up promising juniors.


Our Club needs to investigate the circumstances related to the non-retension of these players and put in place policy that wll LIMIT such situations happening in the future. Our Club spends a lot of money each year developing juniors and so, we should be able to keep the players we want to keep.

I don't know all the facts however from what I understand, Hastings was always going to go to the Roosters (mainly due to his father?s connection to that Club) and so, he should have be let go much earlier in his development years. This would make way for a more loyal and highly talanted Dragon's junior.

Bird had off field problems regarding support for his family and experienced very tough times. He asked his Club for help and was denied the assistance he needed. Surely a solution could have been found to help him and his family; even if it included provisions for repayment in later years.


Great post possm as usual.

Thing is none of us know the facts, so we can only comment on what its front of us.

Losing talented players, up and coming, or otherwise is a real shame. Cant keep them all, but as you said, what measures where taken to keep them?

Time will tell.
 

bottle

Coach
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Sometimes players get offers they can't refuse
An example may be ....a parent may have a business that suffers some "bad investment decisions" and the offer the son receives may wipe out said debt thus obliging the player to take a juicier contract more on promise than current ability.
The draw of the club your Dad was a legend at is very strong too.

Hehe.
'bad investment decisions'.
Hehe.
 

TonyT6

First Grade
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Sometimes players get offers they can't refuse
An example may be ....a parent may have a business that suffers some "bad investment decisions" and the offer the son receives may wipe out said debt thus obliging the player to take a juicier contract more on promise than current ability.
The draw of the club your Dad was a legend at is very strong too.

When has a poker machine been a bad investment?

You are 100% on the money as to the reason SOH(son of Horrie) left us
 

hardbaby

Coach
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Tuimavave Gerrard has the better frame for the position we want one of them to play. He has the skill and talent to be a success just needs to add some size. If we wanted bird for the backline we have plenty coming through like aitken, Runciman, Thompson and Dufty to fill that role.

Yep that is an excellent signing. More progressed than Bird. Will play first grade for a long time.
 

Minh

First Grade
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Bird and Hastings were/are dissatisfied junior Dragons. They both made their feelings public and were offered and accepted contracts with other Clubs who seized the opportunity to snap up promising juniors.


Our Club needs to investigate the circumstances related to the non-retension of these players and put in place policy that wll LIMIT such situations happening in the future. Our Club spends a lot of money each year developing juniors and so, we should be able to keep the players we want to keep.

I don't know all the facts however from what I understand, Hastings was always going to go to the Roosters (mainly due to his father?s connection to that Club) and so, he should have be let go much earlier in his development years. This would make way for a more loyal and highly talanted Dragon's junior.

Bird had off field problems regarding support for his family and experienced very tough times. He asked his Club for help and was denied the assistance he needed. Surely a solution could have been found to help him and his family; even if it included provisions for repayment in later years.

I love reading your posts possm, it's way more exciting to read than the usual safety first garb from myself included. You are as passionate a supporter as any and nobody can tell you what you can or can't say. I always read your posts, always and you are usually on the money about the issues at hand.;-)
 

TruSaint

Referee
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I love reading your posts possm, it's way more exciting to read than the usual safety first garb from myself included. You are as passionate a supporter as any and nobody can tell you what you can or can't say. I always read your posts, always and you are usually on the money about the issues at hand.;-)

Spot on mate. :D
Not the part about your posts... lol
 

bottle

Coach
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Weren't you leaving a week ago? Good to see you stick to your convictions lol.

That's right, reignite a shitstorm that has passed.
Why not leave well enough alone and just get on with discussing some footy issues? Are you so desperate for an argument?
Settle down Nick, there are plenty of real things to get riled up about without looking for them.
 

Minh

First Grade
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Weren't you leaving a week ago? Good to see you stick to your convictions lol.

Sometimes people don't leave is because others are wanting them to. It's the reaction they want, besides many have wanted a guy like Tru to stay.;-)
 

The Nick

Bench
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No actually, he is normally on the mark .

Very astute and loyal supporter.

Like the time he got his knickers in a knot over the Dragons website headline "Dragons Grant Beale an early release" lol his name is Gerard not Grant LMAO one of his best!!!
 
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