Jack De Belin

[denis preston]

The secret details behind St George Illawarra’s deal with Jack de Belin
The Dragons officially re-signed Jack de Belin last year but now the secret details behind the deal can be revealed.


The lucrative and secret details of Jack de Belin’s potential new contract with St George Illawarra can finally be revealed.

De Belin and Sinclair were found not guilty on one charge on Monday but the jury were unable to reach a unanimous verdict on the other five charges.

But De Belin has to wait until May 28 to learn if he will face a third trial on sexual assault charges or be free to take-up a four-year deal with the Dragons worth about $3 million.

De Belin and the Dragons agreed on the new contract last September but said only the details “were confidential while the matter remains in court”.

However, The Daily Telegraph has learnt de Belin re-signed with the club until at least 2024. The final year of the deal will be an option in the 30-year-old’s favour. It means de Belin could remain a Dragon until he is 33 if he takes up the final year of his deal and can return to the field.

Despite being sidelined since 2018 de Belin’s contract has been significantly upgraded. He was on a deal worth $595,000 last season which the Dragons still continued to pay as de Belin was stood down by the NRL’s no fault-policy.


He remains stood down until the Director of Public Prosecutions makes a final decision on if they will pursue de Belin and co-accused Callan Sinclair for a third time.

The former NSW lock was chased heavily by New Zealand last year with the Warriors tabling a four-year deal worth about $800,000 a season for four years to try to lure him to the club.

It is understood the Dragons contract was slightly less than what the Warriors offered. He has been given about a $200,000 pay rise despite not playing.

The Dragons and de Belin agreed on the new deal but it has not yet been activated because of the ongoing court case. The NRL are also yet to register the new contract.

To safeguard the club, the Dragons inserted a clause which meant they would not have to stump up significant cash while he cannot play.


He is receiving a significantly reduced wage while he is sidelined which is about $1000 a week.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...n/news-story/b10ffc2ae1ab062455887d0e41e1dc02

Please, please let this be utter bullshit and we didn't offer him anywhere year 750k a year for a player near 30 and out of the game for 2 years AND he has the option for a 4th year !!! Surely not ? Did webby & Hook agree to this ?

 

[Ghostrider22]

So it seems or they would have produce it by now.

If they did, it would be been all over in the first appearance in court.

 

[Gardenia]

It’s very rare to go to a third trial.

they might ask for extra time to decide ...I saw that reported .

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

they might ask for extra time to decide ...I saw that reported .

The prosecution have had two shots at him already. How many chances do they want?

Its becoming a human rights issue now. We are not a fascist country.

He should be out there playing footy for the dragons by the weekend.

And I’d say most fans of the game and regular Jill citizens will be pleased to have him back.

 

[TruSaint]

NRL deny Dragons’ request to allow de Belin to play as new contract revealed

The NRL will not allow Jack de Belin to play for the Dragons or any other club until he is found not guilty of all sexual assault allegations, or the charges against him are dropped.

Mark St John
2 min read
May 11, 2021 - 6:41AM
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The NRL will not allow Jack de Belin to play for the Dragons or any other club until he is found not guilty of all sexual assault allegations, or the charges against him are dropped.

A jury of eight men and four women on Monday found de Belin not guilty of one charge, relating to one sexual act allegedly performed by de Belin.

The jury were unable to reach a unanimous or majority verdict on the remaining five charges, which related to other sexual acts allegedly performed.

NRL: Jack de Belin has been found not guilty on one count of sexual assault but the jury was dismissed after failing to reach a unanimous verdict on five other…

The jury was discharged after the conclusion of the second trial de Belin and his co-accused Callan Sinclair faced on the charges, after last year’s trial ended in a hung jury.

The Sydney Morning Herald revealed de Belin signed a contract extension with the Dragons in 2020, which will see him remain at the Dragons until 2024 if he is cleared of the charges.

The Dragons have been paying de Belin a reduced wage outside the salary cap while he fights his case before the courts.

De Belin’s $700,000 salary will only kick in if he is found not guilty, with his contract to be terminated immediately if he is found guilty.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...s/news-story/108c1319efd71a15e0dc9a66886340db

 

[Walpole]

The prosecution have had two shots at him already. How many chances do they want?

Its becoming a human rights issue now. We are not a fascist country.

He should be out there playing footy for the dragons by the weekend.

And I’d say most fans of the game and regular Jill citizens will be pleased to have him back.

Here's a different perspective. I hope he never pulls on our jersey again.

There's far more important things than winning football games.

 

[BLM01]

Here's a different perspective. I hope he never pulls on our jersey again.

There's far more important things than winning football games.

Oh well opinions divided. For a coach, players, most fans and the media,...That is what is focused on most, who is winning games and who is not which determines job security for those in the game
I am happy for him to come back and play for us starting in reserve grade If and only he is cleared by the system
So roughly 3 more weeks will determine that

 

[boardlumps62]

Innocent until proven guilty. So why are some people unhappy still.

 

[thebigredv]

NRL deny Dragons’ request to allow de Belin to play as new contract revealed

The NRL will not allow Jack de Belin to play for the Dragons or any other club until he is found not guilty of all sexual assault allegations, or the charges against him are dropped.

Mark St John
2 min read
May 11, 2021 - 6:41AM
0 comments


The NRL will not allow Jack de Belin to play for the Dragons or any other club until he is found not guilty of all sexual assault allegations, or the charges against him are dropped.

A jury of eight men and four women on Monday found de Belin not guilty of one charge, relating to one sexual act allegedly performed by de Belin.

The jury were unable to reach a unanimous or majority verdict on the remaining five charges, which related to other sexual acts allegedly performed.

NRL: Jack de Belin has been found not guilty on one count of sexual assault but the jury was dismissed after failing to reach a unanimous verdict on five other…

The jury was discharged after the conclusion of the second trial de Belin and his co-accused Callan Sinclair faced on the charges, after last year’s trial ended in a hung jury.

The Sydney Morning Herald revealed de Belin signed a contract extension with the Dragons in 2020, which will see him remain at the Dragons until 2024 if he is cleared of the charges.

The Dragons have been paying de Belin a reduced wage outside the salary cap while he fights his case before the courts.

De Belin’s $700,000 salary will only kick in if he is found not guilty, with his contract to be terminated immediately if he is found guilty.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...s/news-story/108c1319efd71a15e0dc9a66886340db

That's all fine but...

Different story if it is the Roosters. Very ethical when they want to be, the NRL.

 

[boardlumps62]

But Rooters haven't got players on charges like this have they.
I hate the Rooters never forget 38 nil.

 

[Dragon David]

He didn’t present as Peter Perfect but remember OT, he doesn’t have to prove his innocence.

I understand it’s not conclusive, but he was found not guilty on one count, which means he’s innocent in relation to that. Whatever the prosecution case there, it did not prove that allegation beyond a reasonable doubt.

So if there was a test as you envisage, it’s not a stretch to claim that he proved his innocence in that count.

The court of public opinion may have a different view.

All things considered as you know, I think he’s been through enough and he should be allowed to walk.

As a fan of the Dragons and what JDB can do to help the team become a "force", I'd be happy for no further re-trial and for him to play. He is a shit for getting involved in this sorrowful situation and so many lives have been affected and possibly ruined.

The alleged victim I am sure would not like this to rest to prove that she was a victim of sorts and whilst the circumstantial evidence points to her appearing to be in the guys company for some "fun" at the time, who knows what developed??

To me unless there is a credible witness who hasn't come forward and/or exceptional evidence to prove anything, a second retrial which would take months to set up, new jurors selected, hearing the same stories, viewing the same CCTV etc., for what another hung jury??

I rest my case.

 

[Gourley's Socks]

I feel quite conflicted about this entire matter - holding the presumption of innocence sacrosanct but imagining I'd still feel odd cheering him on if allowed to play.

Nonetheless, I just want to contrast the other NFSD case regarding Dylan Walker. There the case was dropped after six months once the complainant recanted her story. Leaving aside all particulars, this was the swift justice under which the policy was intended to operate not the JDB saga dragging on to potentially three trials.

I don't know what the answer is but surely the policy as it stands isn't it.

 

[boardlumps62]

As a fan of the Dragons and what JDB can do to help the team become a "force", I'd be happy for no further re-trial and for him to play. He is a shit for getting involved in this sorrowful situation and so many lives have been affected and possibly ruined.

The alleged victim I am sure would not like this to rest to prove that she was a victim of sorts and whilst the circumstantial evidence points to her appearing to be in the guys company for some "fun" at the time, who knows what developed??

To me unless there is a credible witness who hasn't come forward and/or exceptional evidence to prove anything, a second retrial which would take months to set up, new jurors selected, hearing the same stories, viewing the same CCTV etc., for what another hung jury??

I rest my case.

A third trial surely not after he and his mate were found not guilty on one count.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Fair enough SP but he is still a grub and paying him MORE than when he was at his peak after 2 years off baffles him enormously. Just think of what we can buy for 750k a year ?

Thanks Dennis, yeah that’s a different issue and I haven’t really considered it. Doesn’t look the full quid at first light.

 

[WA 'S OWN RED V]

Let's not get emotional about moral choices. We might not agree with what people get up to in there personal lives but as long as it's not criminal behaviour so be it. The law works on the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.you don't need to prove you are innocent.
That's where ends. If people don't agree with these principles move to a country where you think their legal system is better. Good luck.

The legal system has almost run its course on this. If they drop the charges. Let's get on with life and footy.

 

[Dragonslayer]

I've stayed out of comment on this case this time around.

The forums provide some interesting reading on the case.

My only comments are:
In ALL cases a defendant is "innocent until proven guilty". This is the mainstay of our legal system. The prosecution has to "prove beyond a reasonable doubt" that the charges laid upon the accused took place. The "onus of proof" lays solely on the prosecution, not on the defendant ie: the prosecution has to prove guilt, the defendant does not have to prove their innocence.

We will probably never know the hung jury #'s ie how they were split (in both trials). In some way it is irrelevant. As stated above the onus of proof and beyond reasonable doubt is the responsibility of the prosecution and the "guilt" must apply to all the jurors.

So, in the determination of the DeBelin case he remains "innocent" of the charges laid, that is the way of the law. The arguement will remain that he wasnt found "not guilty" (albeit 1 charge was), however, that is a "community" assessment not the legal assessment. Many consider his acts amoral, but that does not make him guilty of the charges laid.

I cant see how the DPP can go for a 3rd time, unless some new evidence or witness comes forward, and even then, it or they weren't in that room at that time. Again onus of proof that the charges laid actually took place.

If the DPP dtop the charges, then the NRL has already indicated DeBelin can play, he would no longer be subject to the "no fault, stand down policy".
Do WE (the fans) want him at the Dragons? Like the 2 juries im guessing the answer would be the same "hung" one way or another. Do the Coaching staff want him in the team? Do the other players? Etc etc.

So, at this point in time, DeBelin is a free and innocent man. We'll just have to wait for confirmation from the DPP wether that is the final determination.

 

[possm]

Let's not get emotional about moral choices. We might not agree with what people get up to in there personal lives but as long as it's not criminal behaviour so be it. The law works on the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.you don't need to prove you are innocent.
That's where ends. If people don't agree with these principles move to a country where you think their legal system is better. Good luck.

The legal system has almost run its course on this. If they drop the charges. Let's get on with life and footy.

When they drop the charges, I hope De Belin get stuck right into the NRL and the DPP. For me this whole saga is a nightmare.

 

[redv13]

When they drop the charges, I hope De Belin get stuck right into the NRL and the DPP. For me this whole saga is a nightmare.

Really?? Nightmare no doubt but getting stuck into the DPP? You’re better than that possm honestly. Clearly some people on both juries believe he’s guilty or it would have been NG in the 1st trial and no need for a 2nd. Sorry mate but you can’t blame the DPP on this one

 

[giboz71]

And with regards to how people feel about JDB playing for us, that's up to the individual. But if the DPP don't pursue a 3rd trial, then the only thing he is guilty of is having a sordid sexual encounter play out in the public eye, and cheating on his partner.

That makes him a first class douche, but in reality no different to plenty of other players playing NRL. It's not a sporting code with a high moral compass after all and there is a long list of incidents that attest to this.

So I'll cheer him on like I do any other player that dons our jersey, especially if he helps us win.

 

[be55]

Let's not get emotional about moral choices. We might not agree with what people get up to in there personal lives but as long as it's not criminal behaviour so be it. The law works on the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.you don't need to prove you are innocent.
That's where ends. If people don't agree with these principles move to a country where you think their legal system is better. Good luck.

But if the DPP don't pursue a 3rd trial, then the only thing he is guilty of is having a sordid sexual encounter play out in the public eye, and cheating on his partner.

That makes him a first class douche, but in reality no different to plenty of other players playing NRL.