Jarryd Hayne - Make him an Eel for Life

[Gronk]

Savage rebuttal there merkin.

 

[Gronk]

The problem is in this day and age it is very easy to accuse high profile people of sexual assault and have it played out in the media before a charge is even laid let alone going to trial. These false accusers get off scott free with their name hidden and reputation in tac while the high profile person has their reputation tarnished forever

I think you will find that false accusers are treated very harshly by the law. For example;

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/act/woman-pleads-guilty-to-making-false-rape-allegation-against-ex-partner-20181106-p50edw.

It would be nice to have a system where perpetrators are caught 100% of the time, women are never further traumatised by the court process and no men are left with their reputations scarred because of false allegations. There is no solution for this however.

 

[Dibs]

I’ve changed my mind on some of this in the last year or so. Started to see a very unpleasant side of the #MeToo movement.

I am a supporter of treating women better, as I have mentioned I have 16 and 15 year old daughters and the idea of someone mistreating them in anyway makes me think of vigilante justice, but I agree about the unpleasant side of the me too movement. In fact I think it is possible that it causes as much harm as it does good. Of course like anything else it’s the minority that ruin it for the rest. There was this actress who used social media to judge and sentence some celibrity and was very vocal about him before any charges were laid. Yet years before while making a woody Allen film she was asked about the recent allegations against woody and his adopted daughter. Her response was he deserves the presumption of innocence until proven otherwise(paraphrasing immensely here I can’t remember what she said but it was along those lines)

 

[Incorrect]

I think you will find that false accusers are treated very harshly by the law. For example;

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/act/woman-pleads-guilty-to-making-false-rape-allegation-against-ex-partner-20181106-p50edw.

It would be nice to have a system where perpetrators are caught 100% of the time, women are never further traumatised by the court process and no men are left with their reputations scarred because of false allegations. There is no solution for this however.

Any other examples you can share? That broad wont see jail time... And again, she is not named, why so protected? It feels like if you've got a pair of tits and a fanny and can recite the words "hash tag me too" then it's anything goes.... FFS

 

[Dibs]

As with most issues like this it is very hard for the pendulum to rest in a balanced position. Those with neutral or balanced views tend to get ignored, shouted down or vilified by both more extreme ends of the spectrum. I find it quite despressing really.

Great post

 

[Dibs]

I said might.

Irrespective of whether he is guilty or not I can understand why clubs (including our own) night steer clear of him. Doesn’t make it right, but I can understand it.

Good luck supporting the Wanderers.

Well it’s a basic risk assessment now and there is more to lose and less to gain, which is a shame for an innocent Jarryd and a just outcome for a guilty one

 

[ImTheMan]

The problem is in this day and age it is very easy to accuse high profile people of sexual assault and have it played out in the media before a charge is even laid let alone going to trial. These false accusers get off scott free with their name hidden and reputation in tac while the high profile person has their reputation tarnished forever

For example, look at this article:

https://www.news.com.au/national/ns...d/news-story/26d266417617123dc2a84bbdad5e805e

This guy has been arrested, charged and not named. It should not be any different for Hayne who has not been charged with anything or arrested. Whatever loophole the "good people" in the media use to go crazy on stories and name people based on accusations needs to be legally closed.

 

[Noise]

I think you will find that false accusers are treated very harshly by the law. For example;

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/act/woman-pleads-guilty-to-making-false-rape-allegation-against-ex-partner-20181106-p50edw.

It would be nice to have a system where perpetrators are caught 100% of the time, women are never further traumatised by the court process and no men are left with their reputations scarred because of false allegations. There is no solution for this however.

Interesting her name is kept silent

 

[Gronk]

Well the stats of women being effected by domestic violence and/or sexual assault at the hands of men is like 500,000 compared to the number of falsely accused men as probably less than 0.1% (my guess). So as much as being falsely accused would be horrible, there is an obvious disparity in the numbers and for that reason I think you guys have lost focus on the real problem here.

https://www.aph.gov.au/about_parlia...ications_archive/archive/violenceagainstwomen

 

[T-Boon]

It is an interesting field and scary to some extent.
I had a friends 16 year old daughter tell me "a drunk woman cannot consent" (thats what she is being taught in school). WTH?
That sounds disrespectful to women...and do young women even want that as a law?

 

[El Diablo]

Savage rebuttal there merkin.

do you have to get your missus permission before you can post?

you certainly don't have to worry about anyone hugging your nuts seeing you've had them removed

 

[El Diablo]

probably less than 0.1% (my guess).

it's probably your wifes guess which in turn then makes it yours

surely you've got some protest rally to get to

 

[Gronk]

do you have to get your missus permission before you can post?

you certainly don't have to worry about anyone hugging your nuts seeing you've had them removed

Clearly you are happy being a mysoginitsic neanderthal. Good luck with that.

 

[Noise]

Well the stats of women being effected by domestic violence and/or sexual assault at the hands of men is like 500,000 compared to the number of falsely accused men as probably less than 0.1% (my guess). So as much as being falsely accused would be horrible, there is an obvious disparity in the numbers and for that reason I think you guys have lost focus on the real problem here.

https://www.aph.gov.au/about_parlia...ications_archive/archive/violenceagainstwomen

Yes domestic violence and sexual assault against women is a huge problem. But there is a growing problem of high profile people getting falsely accused and then being named and shamed in the media before they are even charged. This turns into a cash grab all the while the ‘victims’ identity is kept hush hush. Something needs to be done about this just like something needs to be done about domestic violence.

 

[Noise]

It is an interesting field and scary to some extent.
I had a friends 16 year old daughter tell me "a drunk woman cannot consent" (thats what she is being taught in school). WTH?
That sounds disrespectful to women...and do young women even want that as a law?

Yep that is the law and what is taught in schools.

 

[El Diablo]

Clearly you are happy being a mysoginitsic neanderthal. Good luck with that.

i'm a neanderthal because i'n not some soft cock like you who has surrendered his manhood lol

you go girl

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Yep that is the law and what is taught in schools.

So if a man is drunk and the woman not drunk then he has been raped? And if they're both drunk then they've both been raped?

 

[Gronk]

It is an interesting field and scary to some extent.
I had a friends 16 year old daughter tell me "a drunk woman cannot consent" (thats what she is being taught in school). WTH?
That sounds disrespectful to women...and do young women even want that as a law?

Boys are tought the same.

Life is different these days. There are STDs that can give a girl cancer. No means no and there are massive consequences if those rules are not respected.

You'll find that the current teens have no real issue with this concept and it is just the bitter Neanderthals of this world that can't cope with women being their equals.

 

[Gronk]

So if a man is drunk and the woman not drunk then he has been raped? And if they're both drunk then they've both been raped?

Consent needs to be clear and unambiguous.

 

[Noise]

So if a man is drunk and the woman not drunk then he has been raped? And if they're both drunk then they've both been raped?

The law says you can’t give consent if you are intoxicated. I have no idea what constitutes officially ‘intoxicated’ or what happens in your example.