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Jarryd Hayne to the NFL!

Will Jarryd Hayyne make it in the NFL?


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Jodeci

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Lol at those who actually believe Hayne only gave the club 24hrs also.

Exactly.

If people believe he only told the club on Tuesday night for a Wednesday announcement need to check themselves into Westmead Hospital.

Like I said earlier, the alarm bells should of been ringing when he said all contract talks are off until after the season.

He had a gut feeling then.
 

Joshuatheeel

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Not sure the club could have done much more to keep him. It's not like he is leaving us for another club or a better contract in Union. He is risking it all by attempting a new sport/challenge without a contract. Good luck to him. It takes balls to follow your dreams.

My only issue with the matter is that he waited until now to make a decision. He has left us in very difficult position so late in the year trying to get a replacement. Gee he was even negotiating a new contract with us. That is pretty poor form of Hayne's part.
 
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True...well maybe we fine tune hoppa for fullback and he can start earning his money.
Than go after ferguson or SKD??

Wouldn't feed either of those guys. Fergo is a grub of a human and overrated based on 1 good season 2 years ago, and SKD has hands like feet. Would pass on Stewart as well as he is too old.

The important thing IMO is that we don't chase someone now because we are separate to fill a hole and have serious cash to spend. That just equates to paying overs.

Hopefully if the club isn't able to secure the right big name player, they can use Haynes cap space to extend some contracts and front load as much as possible. That or pre-pay a big name signing for next year like the Rorters did with Maloney when he left the Warriors.

As for Hayne, I'm disappointed, but I'm also excited to see how he goes chasing a shot in the NFL. I might have cruelled the Eels for 2015, but I'll be following his progress every step of the way. I think he has a better chance of cracking it than most people on the forum. He isn't going to be the fastest "rookie" hitting the system, and there will be bigger and better athletic specimens, but the "package" that Hayne has will get him a shot at a roster spot. Good speed, big guy, can bust a tackle, great hands and has shown in the NRL that he can find and hit holes like nothing else. Imagine what could do when he has some blockers.
 

Joely01

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Exactly.

If people believe he only told the club on Tuesday night for a Wednesday announcement need to check themselves into Westmead Hospital.

Like I said earlier, the alarm bells should of been ringing when he said all contract talks are off until after the season.

He had a gut feeling then.

The club knew just after origin, at least that is when he expressed to BA and the club that he wanted to give it a go in NFL
 

Jodeci

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The club knew just after origin, at least that is when he expressed to BA and the club that he wanted to give it a go in NFL

Exactly

This article back in July by Michael Chammas from the SMH regarding Hayne and the NFL. Have a look at the quotes from Hayne.

A week after this article, Seeward says we are starting contract negotiations with Hayne's manager???

A week after that, Hayne and his manager tell Parra talks are off till end of the season.

If someone tells me the club had no idea about this pending decision from Hayne, they must be kidding themselves

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...an-football-20140706-zsy3g.html#ixzz36jRLhZu2
 
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Exactly

This article back in July by Michael Chammas from the SMH regarding Hayne and the NFL. Have a look at the quotes from Hayne.

A week after this article, Seeward says we are starting contract negotiations with Hayne's manager???

A week after that, Hayne and his manager tell Parra talks are off till end of the season.

If someone tells me the club had no idea about this pending decision from Hayne, they must be kidding themselves

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...an-football-20140706-zsy3g.html#ixzz36jRLhZu2

There's a world of difference between knowing that Hayne was considering this, and would make a decision in the future, and knowing what that decision actually is/was. In the first case, it allows the club to sus-out a few contingency plans, but not much else.
 

Gronk

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You can flip it, turn it around or even upside down. In the end he has left us will little warning. The fact that Dave Smith was on the phone late Tuesday trying to sway him suggests that it did blind side many in the game.

If Hayne had telegraphed his formal intentions earlier then fans would have had a chance to say goodbye and the club would have been able to privately and publicly plan for succession.

I feel like my fiancée of many years has upped and left me cos she wants to travel to India and help the poor. An out of the blue WTF moment that might have been talked about, but you never thought that it would ever amount to anything.

I find very little sympathy for him as I think he has acted selfishly compared to (say) Sam Burgess who gave plenty of lead time so that the fans, NRL and his club can come to grips with it and undertake some forward planning.
 
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You can flip it, turn it around or even upside down. In the end he has left us will little warning. The fact that Dave Smith was on the phone late Tuesday trying to sway him suggests that it did blind side many in the game.

If Hayne had telegraphed his formal intentions earlier then fans would have had a chance to say goodbye and the club would have been able to privately and publicly plan for succession.

I feel like my fiancée of many years has upped and left me cos she wants to travel to India and help the poor. An out of the blue WTF moment that might have been talked about, but you never thought that it would ever amount to anything.

I find very little sympathy for him as I think he has acted selfishly compared to (say) Sam Burgess who gave plenty of lead time so that the fans, NRL and his club can come to grips with it and undertake some forward planning.

Maybe your fiancée thought you were a bit easy, and was heading to India to test herself against a bigger pool of contenders?
 

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Carroll coy about signing rugby star

RENTON, Wash. -- Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll had a little fun Wednesday when asked about the team possibly signing Australian rugby star Jarryd Hayne.
[+] Enlarge Ashley Feder/Getty ImagesAustralia's Jarryd Hayne says he is retiring from the National Rugby League to pursue a career in the NFL.


"Our scout Down Under has been on this for some time now," Carroll joked. "But he's an incredible athlete and a great competitor, so we'll see where it goes. I'm afraid to mention anything because I'm not sure of the rights things and contract issues down there. We'll leave that up to [Seahawks general manager] John [Schneider] to figure out."
Hayne, 26, announced earlier this week that he is retiring from the National Rugby League to pursue a career in the NFL. He made a visit to Seattle in September, making an appearance at the Seahawks' facility after meeting University of Washington coach Chris Petersen at Husky Stadium.
Carroll said he did not meet Hayne when the rugby star visited the Virginia Mason Athletic Center. When asked specifically about Hayne, Carroll was a bit coy.
"I don't think I'm able to talk about that," Carroll said. "We couldn't talk about a player on another [NFL] team, so I don't want to mess it up. But it's a pretty exciting thought.
"I've always thought it would be cool to recruit down [in Australia] and all that because there are some great players, and it's a great game. It's a very physical and demanding game, so those guys have all the same stuff we're looking for in our guys."
When Carroll's normal news conference ended, Dave Pearson, the Seahawks' vice president of communications, said Carroll was just having fun.
"He doesn't even know who the guy is," Pearson said.
However, the interest appeared serious enough that a television station from Australia sent one of its reporters (Los Angeles-based Michael Best) to Seattle on Wednesday to ask Carroll about Hayne.
Carroll was willing to talk about rugby players in general.
"They're great athletes," Carroll said. "They run fast, and they hit hard. The style of throwing and catching is different. I'm sure our guys could cross over, too, once they figured out how to lateral and kick it on the run. Well, we'd be miserable at that, I'm sure. But there's a lot of general carryover because of running and tackling and making people miss."
Could a rugby star such as Hayne (6-foot-2, 220 pounds) make it in the NFL?
"I think it would be really hard and a tremendous challenge," Carroll said. "Only a certain few could do it. There would need to be a lot of patience from the [NFL team involved]. I don't think a guy could come in in the middle of a season. I think it would take more time than that. But we've seen guys over the years who have made the transition from other sports."
Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman also was asked if Hayne could do it.
"It depends on what position he is trying to play," Sherman said. "If he can adjust and grasp the strategic part of the game, I think he would do fine. That's to be seen."
And could Sherman play rugby?
"I don't know," Sherman said. "I don't really know the rules to rugby, but I think I'd do all right."
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...yne?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
 

Jodeci

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You can flip it, turn it around or even upside down. In the end he has left us will little warning. The fact that Dave Smith was on the phone late Tuesday trying to sway him suggests that it did blind side many in the game.

If Hayne had telegraphed his formal intentions earlier then fans would have had a chance to say goodbye and the club would have been able to privately and publicly plan for succession.

I feel like my fiancée of many years has upped and left me cos she wants to travel to India and help the poor. An out of the blue WTF moment that might have been talked about, but you never thought that it would ever amount to anything.

I find very little sympathy for him as I think he has acted selfishly compared to (say) Sam Burgess who gave plenty of lead time so that the fans, NRL and his club can come to grips with it and undertake some forward planning.

What is there to flip around?

Did Seeward start contract talks or not?

Was he just trying to say that after the article by the SMH early July about the NFL talk?

Eels chief executive Scott Seward confirmed yesterday that contract negotiations with the Parramatta star?s representatives were about to get under way.

?It has been on our radar for a while now,? Seward said.

?We have flagged it with Jarryd?s management about extending and, as far as we?re concerned".

So he actually never spoke to Beavis? he only flagged the idea?

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...ntract-extension/story-fni3ga7r-1226982268447

There is no way on this earth he would of just dropped this bombshell.

The discussions with the club would of happened in recent weeks at least.

Anyway, best of luck to the champ. I hope he goes well and wish him nothing but success in life and I hope he chases that dream to play NFL.
 

hineyrulz

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What is there to flip around?

Did Seeward start contract talks or not?

Was he just trying to say that after the article by the SMH early July about the NFL talk?

Eels chief executive Scott Seward confirmed yesterday that contract negotiations with the Parramatta star?s representatives were about to get under way.

?It has been on our radar for a while now,? Seward said.

?We have flagged it with Jarryd?s management about extending and, as far as we?re concerned".

So he actually never spoke to Beavis? he only flagged the idea?

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...ntract-extension/story-fni3ga7r-1226982268447

There is no way on this earth he would of just dropped this bombshell.

The discussions with the club would of happened in recent weeks at least.

Anyway, best of luck to the champ. I hope he goes well and wish him nothing but success in life and I hope he chases that dream to play NFL.
Hey at least the leaks have stopped :)
 

Joely01

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There's a world of difference between knowing that Hayne was considering this, and would make a decision in the future, and knowing what that decision actually is/was. In the first case, it allows the club to sus-out a few contingency plans, but not much else.

If you honestly want to think the club hasn't got plans in place you are kidding.
Imagine the reaction a few weeks out while we are going for the 8 that we have just signed an elite fullback for next year...

Some people need to get off the whole the club is s**t it has no idea bandwagon. BA and Seward are much better operators than what we have become used to over the last few years.
 

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What is there to flip around?

Did Seeward start contract talks or not?

Was he just trying to say that after the article by the SMH early July about the NFL talk?

Eels chief executive Scott Seward confirmed yesterday that contract negotiations with the Parramatta star’s representatives were about to get under way.

“It has been on our radar for a while now,” Seward said.

“We have flagged it with Jarryd’s management about extending and, as far as we’re concerned".

So he actually never spoke to Beavis? he only flagged the idea?

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...ntract-extension/story-fni3ga7r-1226982268447

There is no way on this earth he would of just dropped this bombshell.

The discussions with the club would of happened in recent weeks at least.

Anyway, best of luck to the champ. I hope he goes well and wish him nothing but success in life and I hope he chases that dream to play NFL.

It could have been handled way better than it has. Better for the fans. Better for the club. Better for the NRL.

You seem to be content with how it was handled. I'm not.

Do I wish Jarryd well ? Of course. Do I think it's been handled in an unprofessional and disrespectful manner. Hell yes. Oddly he said that he was going to bail out a year ago but didn't do so because of the Brad Arthur thing (he then actually went on to say that he didn't have the balls to make the move). So frankly he didn't know what he wanted to do until recently. To me he made a rather spontaneous decision that blind sided the club

Some might say that it's all up front and planned with all parties on notice. We'll see. If the club has been aware of this for many months then no doubt we'll see a gun fullback announced in the next few days.
 

Joshuatheeel

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Surely if this wasn't a last minute decision by hayne and the club knew a while back there would have been rumours/leaks/articles about.
 

Delboy

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Gronk response sets out the issues as well as we have seen

We all Love what we have been been given by Hayne, the fans he has brought to games and th kids that just want to be him

The timing is unofrtunately selfish, and puts the club behind the eight ball, he will e I highlight reels for ever, but to leave the club as late as this and seemingly not given them the opportunity to use his massive cap space is a bit irresponsible. Wayne Beavis confirmed that it was only decided on Tuesday as he had to make a decision on th biggest contract seen in rugby league.

Good luck to JH but it still leaves a bitter taste as much as we want him tosucceed, but he let the club and fans down big time!!!
 

Jodeci

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It could have been handled way better than it has. Better for the fans. Better for the club. Better for the NRL.

You seem to be content with how it was handled. I'm not.

Do I wish Jarryd well ? Of course. Do I think it's been handled in an unprofessional and disrespectful manner. Hell yes. Oddly he said that he was going to bail out a year ago but didn't do so because of the Brad Arthur thing (he then actually went on to say that he didn't have the balls to make the move). So frankly he didn't know what he wanted to do until recently. To me he made a rather spontaneous decision that blind sided the club

Some might say that it's all up front and planned with all parties on notice. We'll see. If the club has been aware of this for many months then no doubt we'll see a gun fullback announced in the next few days.

Judging by our recent signings, the 'gun' fullback signing is way off and won't be happening. The CEO on radio has already stated that Hoppa will play 1 and we will be chasing a centre and not fullback.

I'm putting the individual first. He is a friend of mine and I respect his decision no matter how it was done.

Whether it was handled properly or not is irrelevant now.

There is no use debating how it went down. The club should of been in his ear and the managers at the end of last season working towards an extension.

Why wait till July this year to start talks.
 
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