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Jarryd Hayne to the NFL!

Will Jarryd Hayyne make it in the NFL?


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Fathead

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One thing is absolutely certain. The eels - Hayne connection is finished for good. He has as much chance of playing for us again as Peter Sterling. It's time to move on.
 

Parra

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dear God

i'm talking about when he walked out on the Dogs you simpleton

he was not allowed to play French Yawnion until Bumdine paid the Dogs money as he was still under contract

Hayne could not have tried to play any sport unless he had got a release

you are trying to make it sound like he could only not play for another NRL club

You don't know why SBW had to repay Canterbury.

You are just making shit up again.
 

bartman

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Here's a quote from TVNZ (government-owned, ABC equivalent):

http://tvnz.co.nz/othersports-news/cash-strapped-mundine-hits-up-brother-sonny-bill-5657063

Mundine told Sydney's Daily Telegraph he'd definitely be hitting up "brother" Sonny Bill Williams for the cash.
"I'll check out Sonny for sure," Mundine said
"We're brothers. He'll be there for me like I was there for him."
In 2008, Mundine gave Williams A$750,000 from his personal account to help extract the cross-code star from his five-year Bulldogs NRL deal.
The cash allowed Williams to flee to Toulon and learn the nuances of rugby from All Black great Tana Umaga, before returning to New Zealand where he won the ITM Cup with Canterbury, the Super 15 with the Chiefs and the Rugby World Cup with the All Blacks.
He returned to the NRL with the Roosters this year, with his reputation and integrity enhanced.
It's pretty clear to most people that $BW had to pay Canterbury to avoid the contract-related court proceedings they were about to bring. (ABC link re intended court proceedings: http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2008/s2328258.htm)
 

El Diablo

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You don't know why SBW had to repay Canterbury.

You are just making shit up again.

lol

you really are stupid

who said repay anyway?

http://www.smh.com.au/news/news/son...1218307232568.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

Sonny Bill free for $750k

Andrew Webster
August 16, 2008

Former ALP powerbroker Graham Richardson ended the Sonny Bill Williams saga, brokering a deal between the renegade footballer and the Bulldogs.

In a heady chain of events played out late last night, the club has verbally agreed to a $750,000 payout from Williams, allowing him to break a five-year deal to take up a $2 million contract with French rugby side Toulon.

And in an unprecedented move for rugby league, Williams decided to negotiate the deal himself and offer his former club $750,000 to end court action against him.

The Bulldogs board baulked at the figure late yesterday and demanded a price tag of $1m.

Keen to end the melodrama over the future of their runaway star, and wary of protracted legal wrangling, they finally came to a deal late last night.

"We've had some good discussions and we're close to finalising a deal," Bulldogs chief executive Todd Greenberg told the Herald.

"We're not prepared to speculate on the details. But we're confident that we can finalise the details over the weekend."

The Herald understands the peace deal has been in the wings for some time involving Richardson and lawyer Mike O'Brien, who was the ARL's lawyer during its fight against Super League last decade.

"I don't see this as selling out whatsoever," Greenberg said. "It's important for people to know that he [Williams] and Toulon contacted us.

"We haven't gone chasing any of this. We were prepared to take the matter to court and make him accountable and still are if an agreement is not reached."

Williams withdrew at the 11th hour from his side's pre-season match against Toulouse yesterday morning (Sydney time) so he would not breach a NSW Supreme Court injunction banning him from playing with another club.

If Williams had played, he risked being found in contempt of court, facing arrest and the seizure of his Australian assets, including the $1.3m Sydney home now on the market.

Instead, Williams watched from the stands with good friend and boxer Anthony Mundine.


"A financial settlement is going to be found at the beginning of next week," Toulon club president Mourad Boudjellal told reporters in France, adding he did not want to "inflame the situation" with the Bulldogs.

Greenberg received a call from Richardson with news of Williams's bid to resolve the matter out of court. Greenberg confirmed any settlement with Williams would also mean the club would not pursue Khoder Nasser, the manager who the Bulldogs and NRL claim induced Williams into breaking his contract.

While the settlement is unlikely to prove a deterrent to cashed-up French rugby clubs raiding rugby league's stocks, NRL chief executive David Gallop claimed an early victory.

"The fact he has decided not to defy the injunction sends a clear message to people who want to break their contract," he said.

Asked if he was pushing for Williams to be prevented from playing for Toulon until the end of the NRL season, Gallop said: "How long he stays on the sidelines is one of the issues that has been raised."

This financial settlement will be an embarrassment for the NRL, which has talked tough since Williams fled the country in a bid to stop others from joining the exodus.

In European football, the size of a transfer fee usually depends on the status of the player, but the minimum usually amounts to one season of a new contract.

The Bulldogs have argued before the courts already that Williams's defection could have a wide-reaching effect on the club.

"I've said on a few occasions that the issue is that not only does his departure impact on us on the field but also off the field," Greenberg said.

"An impact across the whole business: current and future players, supporters, sponsors. We need to take all that into account on the next range of discussions with Toulon."

It is also believed the Bulldogs and NRL are in dispute over spiralling legal fees, which are believed to be about $300,000.

"They will be large," Greenberg said. "The NRL promised at the start that they would cover the legal fees. We've been in discussion with Gallop about it."
 
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El Diablo

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Tony Bongo

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Sam Burges at least gave Souffs notice so they could use the cap space, the selfish merkin that f**ked us over left us with little room to move

Souffs signed Stewart and was able to reorganise ever cap with plenty of time

Yup

Seems a lot of people don't know much about contracts.

Yup - you included!

Hayne for one

Yup - him too

With so called fans like this, it's no wonder he left.

Suity

There are a lot of fans like this mate (me included) who weren't like this until he showed his true colours (which aren't blue and gold). Until he walked out fans like me defended him time and time again, respected him, praised him for his achievements and believed that he was genuine in his commitment to the Eels. I still praise him for his achievements but the rest has gone out the window. I'm not going to start name calling and turning on those who choose to defend his actions because that is their right but irrespective of the finer details of his contract many of us including Hayne knows he did the wrong thing.
 

spiderdan

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I thought with sbw it was about compensation to the dogs because breaking the contract meant a loss of sbw related revenue?

I'd imagine our club would be missing out on hayne related revenue with him leaving and wanting a guarantee that if he returned it would be to the eels.
 
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And those clauses generally aren't really worth the paper they are written on. Unless you've compensated someone for giving up that freedom, it wont hold up. If you have, well they might need to recompense.

Do you know what you're talking about? Players are always compensated for giving up that freedom (assuming the clauses exist).

Those clauses are equally as enforceable as others terms of the contract. When you sign a contract, the fixed consideration specified (i.e. what you get paid, or what the other guy agrees to give up in return for your services) is not broken down and allocated to things that you have promised to do / not do. You don't typically get paid $400k for playing for us, and $50k to not engage in incompatible activities. Ignoring bonuses etc, you get paid $450k for honouring all the terms of your contract while ever that contract is valid.

So the claim that those clauses 'generally' aren't worth the paper their written on is, I'm sorry, horse shit.
 

Parra

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So no-one knows why SBW had to pay Canterbury. Was his deal front-ended? Was it a repayment?
 

El Diablo

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wtf

he didn't have to repay them you idiot

are you one of the only Rugger fans who didn't go to a private school?
 

IFR33K

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Suity.

You have no issues with hayne leaving mid contract??

Or that he waited for the season to end till he announced he was departing???

Or that he waited for BA to be overseas to announce his departure.

How about belittling his fans by stating its his dream to play nfl.

Or were you impressed with him disrespecting his team mates with his comments??

Good luck to hayne and all the best to him, but he has left us in a mess.
 

emjaycee

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So no-one knows why SBW had to pay Canterbury. Was his deal front-ended? Was it a repayment?

I think this has been explained before but here goes again...

SBW chose to break the term of his contract (the duration) and had the intent to break a condition of his contract (being the fact he couldnt play for someone else whilst under contract to the Dogs). Dogs decided to enforce this condition and were willing to go to court (they may have done so, i cant remember). Both parties agreed on compensation beeing paid to the Dogs to 'void' the contract and thus allow SBW to play somewhere else (actually this meant his contract with the Dogs was now finished, albeit early). Mundine bankrolled the payment, reportedly agreed by both parties as $750,000. SBW needed to REpay Mundine, but he didnt need to repay the Dogs, he simply paid them the agreed compensation (legally called "consideration") to effectively cancel his contract. The rest is history.

Lyon chose to break the term of his contract and Parra chose to enforce the condition related to him playing elsewhere although they did agree that as long as he didnt play for a direct ccompetitor he could do so without compensating the club (paying a consideration). Hence why he spent the remaining time of his contract playing for Weewaa and in the UK. Once the term of his contract was up, he was a free agent and could play wherever he chose - he chose Manly.

Hayne chose to break the term of his contract and Parra chose to not enforce the condition related to him playing elsewhere and the compensation (i.e. consideration) from all reports was that he does not play for another NRL club for his 'lifetime' hence the reported "lifetime contract" with Parramatta. As long as both parties signed something to this effect then this would be enforceable in court and no doubt the NRL would have some involvement as they decide who plays where in their competition anyway.
 

El Diablo

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Suity.

You have no issues with hayne leaving mid contract??

Or that he waited for the season to end till he announced he was departing???

Or that he waited for BA to be overseas to announce his departure.

How about belittling his fans by stating its his dream to play nfl.

Or were you impressed with him disrespecting his team mates with his comments??

Good luck to hayne and all the best to him, but he has left us in a mess.

he has also let down sponsors

imagine trying to get one now after you've just lost a marquee player
 

IFR33K

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he has also let down sponsors

imagine trying to get one now after you've just lost a marquee player

Could of gone on and on but what's the point?

Did hayne really make comments that his parra team mates are jealous but don't have the balls to do what he's doing?????
 

Joely01

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Suity.

You have no issues with hayne leaving mid contract??

Or that he waited for the season to end till he announced he was departing???

Or that he waited for BA to be overseas to announce his departure.

How about belittling his fans by stating its his dream to play nfl.

Or were you impressed with him disrespecting his team mates with his comments??

Good luck to hayne and all the best to him, but he has left us in a mess.

:lol:
 

El Diablo

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Could of gone on and on but what's the point?

Did hayne really make comments that his parra team mates are jealous but don't have the balls to do what he's doing?????

yes http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...rives-in-america/story-fni3fbgz-1227095400447

Hayne said teammates were ?excited and quietly jealous? for him.

?They?d love to be doing what I am doing. The biggest thing they said is that they?d love to try it out if they had the balls I do,? Hayne said.

the ego maniac also said this

FORMER rugby league superstar Jarryd Hayne has conceded he will be physically and mentally targeted by rival NFL players angry at a foreigner attempting to steal the US limelight.

?I don?t think that will happen ? I know it will,? Hayne said.
 
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