Jarryd Hayne to the NFL!

[Poupou Escobar]

40m dash times mean f**k all for a running back.
For that position it's all about either being elusive and patient, finding gaps to run through...or strong enough to just barge got way through.
The only time you would ever hit top speed is when you make it through to the secondary. Hayne is fast enough for RB.

Exactly. Hayne is powerful and agile - far more important for a player in either sport. His speed over the 40 is the least of his abilities, however it is still exceptional.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Great point. His calculations were clearly speculative, so instead we should believe the even more unbelievable speculation you put forward....

My point is the extremely valid one that Hayne was the highest paid player in the game. I said he would be on $1M and mister calculations said $900k.

Given the numbers thrown around for some off contract players to be earning next year, it's reasonable to think that $900k for Hayne this year is a conservative estimate.

The average (mean) salary this year is $252k. What do you think Hayne is worth compared to the average player?

 

[spiderdan]

Exactly. Hayne is powerful and agile - far more important for a player in either sport. His speed over the 40 is the least of his abilities, however it is still exceptional.

short distance speed tells you how much power a person can generate.

basic physics.
F=ma

speed over a short distance tells you more about that powerful running burst than a bench press or nrl highlights youtube clip will.

and gurminga, no one is death riding him. just not getting caught up in the hoopla of thinking hayne is better than he is. if he were jumping ship to super rugby I'd be saying he would be a bigger influence than Israel Folau has been.

 

[spiderdan]

My point is the extremely valid one that Hayne was the highest paid player in the game. I said he would be on $1M and mister calculations said $900k.

Given the numbers thrown around for some off contract players to be earning next year, it's reasonable to think that $900k for Hayne this year is a conservative estimate.

The average (mean) salary this year is $252k. What do you think Hayne is worth compared to the average player?

hayne, while not having won anything at nrl level, is worth a heap to a club considering his drawing power for tv ratings, sponsors, and bums on seats.

 

[Craig Johnston]

speaking of rugby, the way nfl fanboys carry on about how difficult it is to switch to their code (complexities, youth grading system etc) is eerily similar.

 

[Joely01]

he has size. not sure where you saw his gridiron specific skill given he's never played the game and i'd say you're impressed with his speed because you either look at relative to who he's burning in nrl or you've never actually ran particularly fast.

time will tell if he makes it. if he does i'll be one of the first to say i called it wrong.

Hayne has a very strong athletics background (more to the point sprinting) if you know much about running you can see it in his running style that he know exactly how to get the maximum speed out.
I actually don't think we saw him at maximum speed very much in the NRL.

But I do think speed wise he will be able to handle NFL.

 

[bartman]

and to think that some people on here want to question Hayne's loyalty.

:lol: You could guess that Hayne wanted out of here three years ago, by the way he drifted in and out of matches throughout most of that time. His head wasn't in it, and he didn't play to his - admittedly amazing - potential.

Good luck to him, I hope he makes it over there and lives his dream etc. But either way, I suspect he's never. coming. back. to us.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

short distance speed tells you how much power a person can generate.

basic physics.
F=ma

speed over a short distance tells you more about that powerful running burst than a bench press or nrl highlights youtube clip will.

I'm talking more about power as it relates to colliding with another heavy athlete on a football field than the physics terminology (and I thought Power = Force times Velocity). Really a mix of explosive physical strength at various points of the lower and upper body, as well as balance, timing and footwork/technique.

As backward as rugby league is compared to everything in America, even league coaches understand there is a certain type of strength that can't be measured in the gym. Hayne's running game is one such example.

and gurminga, no one is death riding him. just not getting caught up in the hoopla of thinking hayne is better than he is. if he were jumping ship to super rugby I'd be saying he would be a bigger influence than Israel Folau has been.

But who thinks Hayne is better than he is? He is simply a 27 year old with zero American football experience who has attracted attention from multiple NFL teams. He must have impressed with his physicality. There is no other explanation.

 

[Parra]

Hayne kicked arse and got us wins in that period that only he good get.

He played to his potential.

Love that he is putting it all on the line for a bigger win. Love to see him make it. What a wonderful journey.

 

[spiderdan]

speaking of rugby, the way nfl fanboys carry on about how difficult it is to switch to their code (complexities, youth grading system etc) is eerily similar.

probably as difficult as it was for say c-bomb and izzy to switch to afl I'd say.

 

[bartman]

But But but Bart told us it was just some scheme to get out of his contract with Parra????

Trust me... Hayne's walked on the final year of his contract, and the last quote in the article ends ith the words "...unless Parra don't want me." Setting it all up real well - no way he'll be with us 2016 ;-).

But who really cares, good luck to guy. I just get amused at how many people bought the spin and hype about "Eel For Life" and still think he'll be back in blue and gold now that he's a free agent.

 

[spiderdan]

Hayne has a very strong athletics background (more to the point sprinting) if you know much about running you can see it in his running style that he know exactly how to get the maximum speed out.
I actually don't think we saw him at maximum speed very much in the NRL.

But I do think speed wise he will be able to handle NFL.

i did track and field (ran sub 11 100m when I was 21). I played league and I started with gridiron until I did an acl. I think from that point of view I have a little knowledge. half of my under grad degree was coaching science which gives me a bit more of an understanding. I also worked as a personal trainer for five years so it gives me another dimension. but hey, maybe I don't know much about running.

hayne's 2nd place 11.15 a few years back when he wanted and trained to be the fastest player in Australian codes didn't impress me much.

 

[bartman]

Hayne kicked arse and got us wins in that period that only he good get.

He played to his potential.

Hmm, not in those final two games of last season while we had a shot at the finals. And he regularly went missing for half a game throughout last year -hardly playing to his potential. We must've been watching different telecasts.

 

[spiderdan]

I'm talking more about power as it relates to colliding with another heavy athlete on a football field than the physics terminology (and I thought Power = Force times Velocity). Really a mix of explosive physical strength at various points of the lower and upper body, as well as balance, timing and footwork/technique.

you may be right but a running back goes from a stationary start, accelerating to the space that's meant to be created for them (which isn't always there). I think the f=ma still holds.

I'm interested to see how he goes. I just don't think he's got what it takes.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

hayne's 2nd place 11.15 a few years back when he wanted and trained to be the fastest player in Australian codes didn't impress me much.

Was that after a good year or a shit year? He was probably injured.

 

[Joely01]

i did track and field (ran sub 11 100m when I was 21). I played league and I started with gridiron until I did an acl. I think from that point of view I have a little knowledge. half of my under grad degree was coaching science which gives me a bit more of an understanding. I also worked as a personal trainer for five years so it gives me another dimension. but hey, maybe I don't know much about running.

hayne's 2nd place 11.15 a few years back when he wanted and trained to be the fastest player in Australian codes didn't impress me much.

That's fair enough, but more so to my point is the fact Hayne has a very good running style.
You should know better then most that technique is key when you a sprinting, he has a very good texhnique

You can't seriously base what you think of him as a sprinter on what you saw when he did the fastest footballer race. Yes he did some training for it (but really not much) he would be doing a lot more speed drills now.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Hmm, not in those final two games of last season while we had a shot at the finals.

Your eyes must be painted on. He was the best player on the field against Canberra.

 

[spiderdan]

Hmm, not in those final two games of last season while we had a shot at the finals. And he regularly went missing for half a game throughout last year -hardly playing to his potential. We must've been watching different telecasts.

must have been. he killed it v raiders in the last game. I think he may have got 2 or 3 dallys that game.

 

[spiderdan]

That's fair enough, but more so to my point is the fact Hayne has a very good running style.
You should know better then most that technique is key when you a sprinting, he has a very good texhnique

You can't seriously base what you think of him as a sprinter on what you saw when he did the fastest footballer race. Yes he did some training for it (but really not much) he would be doing a lot more speed drills now.

he has decent technique. he made a big deal about his training in the lead up to that race. technique helps a lot but one of the fastest guys I knew ran a 10.6 without much training and had a similarly shit running style to josh Dugan.

400m and former 200m wr holder Michael Johnson had one of the worst techniques but still moved quick.

 

[spiderdan]

Was that after a good year or a shit year? He was probably injured.

probably was or you'd like to think he was?