Jason Demetriou

[BLM01]

I think this is part of giboz point though - why are we calling for another rookie coach when every other team is filling the role with experience?

My view is that we let other teams blood the rookies for a change. We can then, as Broncos have, poach the best from the bunch.

I agree and he is a risk we dont need.....yet!.
But there is no one available to replace Mary out there right this very second for 2020 for me except Toovey and that is real scary and the facts of the get rid of Mary now campaign which I have been a part of.
I would hate to think we would consider a ESL or overseas Pacific island test coach to replace Mary as I would rather Toovey or even JD before anyone from overseas.

 

[giboz71]

I don't disagree. Was just highlighting the latest on him and Bennett.

And Brisbane did interview him at least. I also believe Gold Coast interviewed him when they were looking for a coach - was that last year or the year before? Anyway, as you point out, he's been passed up by at least 2 teams to-date and not considered for a number of others when looking tor replace their coach. His future might be rosy, but at the moment, the interest isn't there from NRL clubs.

You would think if he was going to land a head coaching job it would be Brisbane would it not? He knows the players, been in the system 2 years etc.

Yet the Broncos pinned their hopes on a coach with a whole 1 years experience ?? Seibold is hardly a sure thing, he took advantage of a pretty solid Souths squad with a big portion of their premiership team still in tact (Burgess x3, GI, Sutton, Reynolds, AJ). He also had the services of the best hooker in the game. He had a dream run in a lot of ways.

He may end up being a very good coach or the next Ivan Henjak.

The Broncos saw all they needed with JD and at the end of the day didn’t give him the job. Perhaps they saw the same thing we did?

 

[2010]

I think that any club that has a strong roster would not sign an unproven coach without first grade experience.

 

[giboz71]

I think that any club that has a strong roster would not sign an unproven coach without first grade experience.

Not necessarily.

Maguire, Robinson and Siebold were all unproven coaches who had pretty much instant success. It can work, you just need the right person.

Demetriou has been an assistant at the Cows, Dragons and Broncos. He's coached at Qld Cup and NSW Cup and won premierships at that level. That's a fair apprenticeship, smiliar to the coaches above. His CV is there for all 16 clubs to see. If he's as good as people say he is, he'd be a head coach by now.

Yet not one club has offered him an NRL gig. But somehow, we're the only idiots for not signing him up?

Please.

 

[Dennis Papaioannou]

My point was, Penrith, Wests, Brisbane, Souths and Manly all changed head coaches within a 2 month period. That's almost 1/3 of the NRL.

And seemingly not one of those team considered JD a viable candidate?

Given the jizzfest on this forum about how great a coach JD is, it's interesting that none of those teams feel the same way.

At the time those changes were muted, JD was based in Brisbane and also a candidate for the Broncos job.
If those positions were still open now, he would certainly be in the mix.
As for your "Jizzfest" remark.
What's your opinion of Demetriou as a coach?
Maybe you can give us all a cold shower.

 

[giboz71]

At the time those changes were muted, JD was based in Brisbane and also a candidate for the Broncos job.
If those positions were still open now, he would certainly be in the mix.
As for your "Jizzfest" remark.
What's your opinion of Demetriou as a coach?
Maybe you can give us all a cold shower.

I have no idea. I've never been coached by him.

He's clearly got runs on the board as an assistant and at Qld Cup/NSW Cup level. But other than that, I wouldn't know.

But I'm basing my assessment on the fact he still hasn't landed an NRL gig. That's with 5 clubs changing coaches in 2 months. Oh, and Ricky Stuart, Brad Arthur and Garth Brennan are still all NRL coaches in 2019.

He's like the Kurt Mann of NRL coaches. Talked up massively by Dragons fans, yet shown no interest by any other NRL club.

 

[grouch]

NRL coaching is mostly a crapshoot mixed with politics. You've got to be in the right place in the right time and play the right game.

giboz71 you seem a tad obsessed with proving Demetriou's lack of coaching nous based on one factor alone, ignoring the complexities and nuances around it.

 

[giboz71]

NRL coaching is mostly a crapshoot mixed with politics. You've got to be in the right place in the right time and play the right game.

giboz71 you seem a tad obsessed with proving Demetriou's lack of coaching nous based on one factor alone, ignoring the complexities and nuances around it.

No, just countering the obsession of Dragons fans who think we simply should have handed him a head coaching gig, with no other reason than to have Mary replaced.

For the record, I think there are many better options out there than Mary. Any of the 5 coaches handed new coaching gigs would have been an upgrade.

Is one of those options JD? Perhaps, but the lack of interest from any other NRL club is telling.

 

[grouch]

No, just countering the obsession of Dragons fans who think we simply should have handed him a head coaching gig, with no other reason than to have Mary replaced.

For the record, I think there are many better options out there than Mary. Any of the 5 coaches handed new coaching gigs would have been an upgrade.

Is one of those options JD? Perhaps, but the lack of interest from any other NRL club is telling.

Not being handed an NRL head coach role does not equal lack of interest though

 

[Warabrook saint]

Souths will win a comp or go very close in the next 2 years. Demetriou takes over and makes a nice career for himself

And our fools just keep going with the nepotism, taking the fans for granted.

 

[giboz71]

Not being handed an NRL head coach role does not equal lack of interest though

Yep fair enough.

And as others have said, he was interviewed for both the Broncos and the Titans role so there is interest.

My question, is what stopped these clubs from hiring him? His pedigree is very good with a great record as both an NRL assistant and premierships at NSW and QLD Cup level.

And perhaps that's how a lot of clubs see him. As a great assistant, much like Jason Taylor and John Cartwright. I still fail to see the evidence he would make a good NRL coach?

 

[grouch]

Yep fair enough.

And as others have said, he was interviewed for both the Broncos and the Titans role so there is interest.

My question, is what stopped these clubs from hiring him? His pedigree is very good with a great record as both an NRL assistant and premierships at NSW and QLD Cup level.

And perhaps that's how a lot of clubs see him. As a great assistant, much like Jason Taylor and John Cartwright. I still fail to see the evidence he would make a good NRL coach?

NRL clubs are far from infallible and quite often make the wrong choice. You don't have to look far to see proof of this *stares at navel*. The fact he hasn't landed the top gig somewhere doesn't prove anything.

Like I said, a lot of the time it's luck and politics.

 

[Drag Queen]

NRL clubs are far from infallible and quite often make the wrong choice. You don't have to look far to see proof of this *stares at navel*. The fact he hasn't landed the top gig somewhere doesn't prove anything.

Like I said, a lot of the time it's luck and politics.

Becoming Bennett's sidekick may well have dug him a hole. Just a thought.

 

[possm]

My point was, Penrith, Wests, Brisbane, Souths and Manly all changed head coaches within a 2 month period. That's almost 1/3 of the NRL.

And seemingly not one of those team considered JD a viable candidate?

Given the jizzfest on this forum about how great a coach JD is, it's interesting that none of those teams feel the same way.

Some members on the forum are desperate for a change of head coach to the point that any new coach would be satisfactory. Remember JD has been assistant to Bennett and before that won the NSW Cup competition at the Dragons.

I believe JD would bring through the younger players better than what Mary does and would also at least have a plan B and plan C.

 

[Coffs dragon]

Becoming Bennett's sidekick may well have dug him a hole. Just a thought.

I tend to agree when you look at the record of his former protégés.....Henjack, Griffin, Pricey, Rick Stone.....all disappeared into the abyss or went to ESL!

 

[Drag Queen]

Im tipping Broncos to be very strong now with Seibold at the helm and Souths to have a poor year(s).
I reckon if that happens JD is back to square one. He'll struggle to get a head coach role following wayne around.

Not sure how you can rationalise that Crush. I have no problem with Siebold, but he had a pretty handy roster to work with from day one. Not bad for a rookie coach. Time will tell though.

 

[Drag Queen]

I tend to agree when you look at the record of his former protégés.....Henjack, Griffin, Pricey, Rick Stone.....all disappeared into the abyss or went to ESL!

Exactly. I did take note that it was generally JD in the sheds at half time, and not Bennett when the Broncs weren't doing so well. Sly ole dog got his money, and I'm pretty sure he may have thrown a good man under the bus.

 

[Drag Queen]

Some members on the forum are desperate for a change of head coach to the point that any new coach would be satisfactory. Remember JD has been assistant to Bennett and before that won the NSW Cup competition at the Dragons.

I believe JD would bring through the younger players better than what Mary does and would also at least have a plan B and plan C.

You forgot to mention he also won a Q-cup previous to this. He also won the NSW/Qld challenge with the Cutters putting a cricket score on the Burleigh Bears.

 

[Coffs dragon]

Whether you like him or not, I'm certain that JD would be a far better assistant coach than Young, Hornby & Head collectively put together. Unfortunately he doesn't belong on the gravy train or suck up to the anointed one.

 

[Dragonslayer]

The problem with JD, is not his coaching, but his presentation.
Now, what I mean by that is, in today's world of psychological testing, interviews and (I cant remember the name of it) other testing (biometrics??), maybe JD just is an old fashion type coach, who gets the job done, rather than being a Mensa candidate (it's why McGregor will never coach anywhere else in the NRL). JD's record as a coach is impressive, but I just think it's the "intelligence" that's letting him down.

I can imagine if Harry Bath, Jack Gibson, our own Norm Proven or even stretching into today's Bennett and Bellamy, having to sit a psych test before getting the job. You'd all laugh. They just coached, that was their thing, and maybe it's the same with JD, he just wants to coach and not have to worry about applying to Harvard.