Jason Ryles - Head coach of Parramatta from 2025

[Poupou Escobar]

Are you being deliberately obtuse??

We have resources just as the Dogs do, they finally got a guy in charge to use them properly. We hired MON, a trolley boy reject from the Tigers. Do you think he is using our resources as best as they can be used?? It will be interesting to see how long he lasts with Ryles and Brown now here.

Go and force yourself to listen to the latest TCT interview with Bernie Gurr. Coaches don’t run NRL clubs. They certainly don’t hire and fire the GM of Football. They all answer to the CEO.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

MON is a resource. That’s the point.

And so is Phil Gould

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I sort of had this discussion yesterday in the soccer thread.
You’ve got your top tier administrators - Politis, Ponissi, Cameron, Gould, maybe Richardson still

Now rank the others after that and you’ll probably find you can barely name a couple.

Sports admin is highly specialised and has glamour to it that attracts people who may or, more likely, may not actually have the skills to do it. The skills are learnable (see Politis) but also the teachers are limited and, especially in rugba leeg, may not always have the purest intentions on passing on those skills.

Does it mean we should settle for whatever? Of course f**ken not. But a change decision needs to be weighed up with what hopefully the current f**kers should have learnt from the latest f**kups.

You were correct that making the GF was double edged as it was biased towards “we did most things correctly and with a bit of extra luck maybe we bring it home” rather than realising the flip side of Pou’s Luck Theorem that just because you did something successfully doesn’t mean you weren’t equally affected by luck to be successful, meaning you didn’t do that thing correctly.

On top of that, I’m not sold on if we fully understand how we were able to produce those few ok years. We certainly didn’t know how to improve and/or maintain them.

I’ve seen enough rugby league (and read enough by the likes of Gould) to know that premiership windows are real, and that they have a real cost.

 

[84 Baby]

I’ve seen enough rugby league (and read enough by the likes of Gould) to know that premiership windows are real, and that they have a real cost.

Then the main target (like your Storms and Rooster) is to raise your floor. Even if you’re not realistically in a “premiership window” in a given season, if you are constantly in the top clubs, then your premiership windows are going to be a combo of more successful, longer term and/or more frequent. So IMO that should be our game plan, not this leveraging however many years it’ll take again for us to be possible contender for a handful of ok years that we had. That’s the current f**k up that if the current admin hasn’t learnt from then just losing their jobs isn’t a sufficient enough penalty.

 

[the phantom menace]

I’ve seen enough rugby league (and read enough by the likes of Gould)

The Book of Gould - the false prophet...

 

[the phantom menace]

The big three's premiership windows



Our premiership window

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Then the main target (like your Storms and Rooster) is to raise your floor. Even if you’re not realistically in a “premiership window” in a given season, if you are constantly in the top clubs, then your premiership windows are going to be a combo of more successful, longer term and/or more frequent. So IMO that should be our game plan, not this leveraging however many years it’ll take again for us to be possible contender for a handful of ok years that we had. That’s the current f**k up that if the current admin hasn’t learnt from then just losing their jobs isn’t a sufficient enough penalty.

This floor you speak of is directly related to resources. We have won seven or fewer games four times in the past thirteen years. Do we blame mismanagement? And if so should we question why we keep being mismanaged by a succession of managers? Is there a solution?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The big three's premiership windows

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Our premiership window

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I assume you’re trying to make a joke, but this is a fact, and not just for our club. At the moment there’s a bottom 14 and we are part of it.

 

[hineyrulz]

The big three's premiership windows

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Our premiership window

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Less shit than I’d except.

 

[Twizzle]

Visited my wife’s uncle who sold everything in Sydney and now lives in Broadbeach. I admire his choice. Wish I could do it.

may as well live in Sydney, Broadbeach is just another concrete jungle

 

[JokerEel]

Weird is thinking, Nrown wouId sell his $6 million home, and move his whole family (4 kids and a wife) 1000km to a new state, because he had a disagreement with BA.....sounds like a family decision to me......

And maybe just maybe he prefers being an assistant to being a pathways director...thus why he is returning...

And yet he is uprooting his family to come back to Sydney

Has to be other footy jobs around that area don't you think...

 

[Avenger]

Go and force yourself to listen to the latest TCT interview with Bernie Gurr. Coaches don’t run NRL clubs. They certainly don’t hire and fire the GM of Football. They all answer to the CEO.

You forgot the bit where the coach makes major contributions to recruitment decisions.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

And yet he is uprooting his family to come back to Sydney

Has to be other footy jobs around that area don't you think...

Or maybe he isn't and is FIFO......like Barrett is going to be....

He also said in 2022, what his future career goal was after leaving the Warriors:

"“I would like to help a young coach survive. That’s what I’d like to do going forward, so my head coaching days are over."

‘Head coaching days are finished’: Brown flags new role as Warriors’ ‘biggest problem’ revealed

‘Head coaching days are finished’: Brown flags new role as Warriors’ ‘biggest problem’ revealed

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[84 Baby]

This floor you speak of is directly related to resources. We have won seven or fewer games four times in the past thirteen years. Do we blame mismanagement? And if so should we question why we keep being mismanaged by a succession of managers? Is there a solution?

Well yes. There’s clearly an avenue that allows it to happen.

 

[Eelogical]

I’ve seen enough rugby league (and read enough by the likes of Gould) to know that premiership windows are real, and that they have a real cost.

We need a double glazed window.................with tint.

 

[Eelogical]

And so is Phil Gould

Did you see him hide in the Manly v Newtown finals stoush?

 

[Eelogical]

may as well live in Sydney, Broadbeach is just another concrete jungle

Getting tats is a must.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

And yet he is uprooting his family to come back to Sydney

Has to be other footy jobs around that area don't you think...

Only the highest paid NRL people move to the Gold Coast for work; star players and head coaches. There’s plenty more rugby league jobs in Sydney and the increased demand means they would pay better.

Nrown2 left Sydney for family reasons. He came back for work.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You forgot the bit where the coach makes major contributions to recruitment decisions.

He obviously does. Like Bernie said, they won’t give him any players he doesn’t want, but they also won’t give him every player he does want. Managing the future means managing the salary cap, and that determines the strength of the squad.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We need a double glazed window.................with tint.

*taint