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Jason Ryles - Head coach of Parramatta from 2025

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It's not trolling to suggest some clubs are bigger than the Parramatta Eels. We are no doubt bigger than some other clubs.
I'll take Jason Ryles' understanding of our situation over yours any day thanks.

And simply repeating your take on things over and over again, when many others on here have already disagreed with you and explained why is... kinda trolling on your part, donchathink?
 

Poupou Escobar

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I'll take Jason Ryles' understanding of our situation over yours any day thanks.
You don't know his understanding of things. You just know his public statement in a puff piece interview promoted by the club.
And simply repeating your take on things over and over again, when many others on here have already disagreed with you and explained why is... kinda trolling on your part, donchathink?
When new content emerges that supposedly counters my theory, you need to understand why that isn't the case.

Public declarations about the club's resourcing will never convince me of anything, any more than a public statement that criminal behaviour by some f**kwit "isn't his go". I'll believe we are well resourced when we are able to recruit and retain players, including our own juniors, as well as the more successful clubs. I'll believe we are well resourced when our assistant coaches are in demand as head coaches at other clubs rather than us picking up assistants from elsewhere to be in charge.
 
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You don't know his understanding of things. You just know his public statement in a puff piece interview promoted by the club.
Oh dear. And you know what more than anyone else here exactly...?
When new content emerges that supposedly counters my theory, you need to understand why that isn't the case.
Oh do f**k off with your self-importance 😂
Public declarations about the club's resourcing will never convince me of anything, any more than a public statement that criminal behaviour by some f**kwit "isn't his go". I'll believe we are well resourced when we are able to recruit and retain players, including our own juniors, as well as the more successful clubs. I'll believe we are well resourced when our assistant coaches are in demand as head coaches at other clubs rather than us picking up assistants from elsewhere to be in charge.
That's fine, just stop harping on and trolling about your own imperfect and oppositional opinion, in pretty much every thread... it's gotten boring already and it's not even officially NRL off-season.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Oh dear. And you know what more than anyone else here exactly...?

Oh do f**k off with your self-importance 😂

That's fine, just stop harping on and trolling about your own imperfect and oppositional opinion, in pretty much every thread... it's gotten boring already and it's not even officially NRL off-season.
Sorry mate, I was challenged by Noise so I replied. It's not all about you. Maybe you need to reflect on that instead of butting into other people's exchanges. You're sounding more and more like Suitman.
 

jason taylor

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You don't know his understanding of things. You just know his public statement in a puff piece interview promoted by the club.

When new content emerges that supposedly counters my theory, you need to understand why that isn't the case.

Public declarations about the club's resourcing will never convince me of anything, any more than a public statement that criminal behaviour by some f**kwit "isn't his go". I'll believe we are well resourced when we are able to recruit and retain players, including our own juniors, as well as the more successful clubs. I'll believe we are well resourced when our assistant coaches are in demand as head coaches at other clubs rather than us picking up assistants from elsewhere to be in charge.
The last point is odd. Not all well-resourced clubs will have assistant coaches that "are in demand as head coaches". Out of the top two teams this season only Ryles fits that bill and well...

[Penrith - Ben Gardiner and Peter Wallace; Storm - Ryan Hinchcliffe, Mark Brentnall and Aaron Bellamy - none of whom have been touted for a head coach role.]

For the record, I agree with your point about not taking official club media videos as gospel.
 

emjaycee

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The last point is odd. Not all well-resourced clubs will have assistant coaches that "are in demand as head coaches". Out of the top two teams this season only Ryles fits that bill and well...

[Penrith - Ben Gardiner and Peter Wallace; Storm - Ryan Hinchcliffe, Mark Brentnall and Aaron Bellamy - none of whom have been touted for a head coach role.]

For the record, I agree with your point about not taking official club media videos as gospel.
To be fair, I think Pou was talking more about previous assistants that are now head coaches, not current assistants who may not yet be ready to become head coaches.

Storm, Roosters, Penrith have provided at least the last 4 "rookie" coaches (excluding club favourite Benji).
Webster, Ciraldo, Fitzgibbon and now Ryles.
 

Poupou Escobar

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The last point is odd. Not all well-resourced clubs will have assistant coaches that "are in demand as head coaches". Out of the top two teams this season only Ryles fits that bill and well...

[Penrith - Ben Gardiner and Peter Wallace; Storm - Ryan Hinchcliffe, Mark Brentnall and Aaron Bellamy - none of whom have been touted for a head coach role.]
New NRL head coaches aren't an annual occurrence mate. It is extremely rare. But it's also true that over the years, many assistant coaches have left Melbourne and Easts (and recently, Penrith) to take up head coaching positions at other clubs. These big clubs get the benefit of these great assistant coaches while other clubs don't (not as assistants anyway).

I will say, having experienced assistants like Barrett and now Brown is a very good sign. Maybe our resources really are on the way up.
For the record, I agree with your point about not taking official club media videos as gospel.
Of course
 

Poupou Escobar

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To be fair, I think Pou was talking more about previous assistants that are now head coaches, not current assistants who may not yet be ready to become head coaches.

Storm, Roosters, Penrith have provided at least the last 4 "rookie" coaches (excluding club favourite Benji).
Webster, Ciraldo, Fitzgibbon and now Ryles.
ffs
 

King-Gutho94

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The thing with the previous regime was never surround themselves with assistant coaches that were pursing head coaching roles.

Most of the ones under BA until Barrett arrived were never interested in getting head coaching roles.

Was it resources or the personality of the head coach preferring people he was comfortable with that were happy to be just assistants without any ambition.
 

oldmancraigy

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Obviously hasn't seen that only three clubs have been minor premiers in the past 12 years.

We were minor premiers twice and played two grand finals in a 10 year span before that.
Probably in large part thanks to someone who oversaw a better use of ample resources.

Sadly that might indicate over the past 12 years we haven't used them very well?
 

oldmancraigy

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Well unlike Ryles I have nothing to gain by lying about it.

Looking at Melbourne, Easts and Parramatta over the last twenty years, anyone who says it’s a level playing field is either lying or a total f**king idiot.

Hopefully Ryles is just bullshitting us.

Oh?

Do the Roosters have higher income than us?
Or do they manage it better?

We are a rich club poorly managed and, this century, have suffered 14 out of 24 years under wooden spoon level coaching.

That's why our rich vein of $resources isn't translating to wins.

Until you offer evidence that we weren't under coaches who won spoons, or can supply evidence that we weren't mismanaged, it is a better theory than yours. (Which is not hard, because yours is wrong, demonstrably)
 

Gazzamatta

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The thing with the previous regime was never surround themselves with assistant coaches that were pursing head coaching roles.

Most of the ones under BA until Barrett arrived were never interested in getting head coaching roles.

Was it resources or the personality of the head coach preferring people he was comfortable with that were happy to be just assistants without any ambition.
Barrett was a definite anomaly in this regard. We saw Barretts influence early then not so much and then again after BAs dismissal. Maybe his was a "highly suggested" appointment rather than a BA choice. The beginning of the end possibly.
 

Twizzle

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Assuming you have all seen the Youtube video by now, what are they talking about ?


Foxsports at their best.

New Eels coach Jason Ryles has revealed his shock plan for Clint Gutherson — but the jury is out on whether it’s really something the skipper will be happy to do.

Step 1, get the word shock in there somewhere.

Ryles spoke for the first time about his plans for the Eels on Tuesday in a 25-minute video, touching on the roster overhaul which has seen Reagan Campbell-Gillard depart the club.

So RCG leaving is an overhaul ?

Rules also mentioned in the interview that Gutherson is “willing to buy into it and wants to do it” despite playing over 160 games at fullback.

The work practice school kid proofreaders must have had a sickie that day.
 

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