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Jason Ryles - Head coach of Parramatta from 2025

RustedonEel

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For heavens sake, stop bagging and start supporting there is no Pass Mark, if they run last or 2nd they still have no premiership ring to wear.
I admire the guts Jason Ryles has shown in cleaning out (talented) old farts, replacing with (talented) youths, and it continues this weekend with Dylan Brown's replacement... will they win? Who knows or really cares, will they get valuable game experience? Hell Yes.
Cameron Cilraldo rebuilt Dogs and they are now winning well and mounting a top4 challenge... can you cast your mind back two seasons ago when they were winning f@#k all? Why not just give Ryles some time, besides, who else is there to chose from to replace him? And what guarantee would there be that they would do better? Answer None and None... so your bagging Ryles is both premature and ultimately futile.
Since you're only new we'll let that one slide. You'll soon realize this is the Chicken Little of forums. Every day the sky is falling. Every day we need a new scapegoat/head coach/trainer/Chairman/CEO/HOF. It's the way things are and have been for nearly 39 years.
 

Eelementary

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What if we come bottom 3 next year?

Phil Gould once said that overhauling a club's roster takes, on average, 4 years.

I think we sometimes underestimate the enormity of the task ahead of Ryles.

I have seen clear improvements in our edge defence, and attitude.

But we are lacking experience, and class.

We have players playing regular First Grade who have played fewer than 20 games of NRL each.

I'm willing to give him 3 full years to flush out the bad seeds, instill a different culture, and develop our youngsters (which, judging by what he has achieved with Kautoga, Iongi, Smith, et al to date, I'm confident he can do well).

But that's just me.

We've been waiting forty years - what is three further years, in the scheme of things, to try to ensure that we are set up well for our future?
 
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Yep, was never expecting instant success... and it takes a lot of time to build a culture - and get rid of players who may have PTSD from losing that 2022 GF and then not bouncing back to even make finals in 2023.

Basically, come 2026 we'll only have Moses, Paulo, Simonssen, Penisini (thanks PO), Russell (who only played one game), Lane (maybe, thanks MO), Matterson (maybe, thanks PO) still at the Club that played first grade in 2022.

And in 2027 - Ryles' third year - we'll only have Moses and Simonssen left from that experience.

While it will be disappointing if we end up with the spoon, or in a final round spoonbowl position, there are improvements evident. Clearing out the deadwood and creating space under the cap has left Ryles just one really good signing away from everyone being positive about the future again.
 

Obscene Assassin

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Phil Gould once said that overhauling a club's roster takes, on average, 4 years.

I think we sometimes underestimate the enormity of the task ahead of Ryles.

I have seen clear improvements in our edge defence, and attitude.

But we are lacking experience, and class.

We have players playing regular First Grade who have played fewer than 20 games of NRL each.

I'm willing to give him 3 full years to flush out the bad seeds, instill a different culture, and develop our youngsters (which, judging by what he has achieved with Kautoga, Iongi, Smith, et al to date, I'm confident he can do well).

But that's just me.

We've been waiting forty years - what is three further years, in the scheme of things, to try to ensure that we are set up well for our future?

We've seen what happens when you change coach every 3rd off season. We did that between 2005-2014 and it led to a decade of trying to get back into finals contention. We saw what happened when we allowed a coach time to develop the team and systems between 2016-2022 where in that time we missed the finals twice.

There definitely is a sweet spot for a coach where you don't change every 3rd off season and you don't hold onto them for 11 off seasons.
 

emjaycee

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We've seen what happens when you change coach every 3rd off season. We did that between 2005-2014 and it led to a decade of trying to get back into finals contention. We saw what happened when we allowed a coach time to develop the team and systems between 2016-2022 where in that time we missed the finals twice.

There definitely is a sweet spot for a coach where you don't change every 3rd off season and you don't hold onto them for 11 off seasons.
Unless there are consistent top 4, GF and Premierships being attained. Bellamy and Robinson for example.
 
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Good article from Roy on Ryles, with quotes.

May have been posted elsewhere yesterday, but belongs here.

Jason Ryles is swimming with Eels … and piranhas​

Jason Ryles was the most wanted coach after his apprenticeship with Craig Bellamy - but can he bring a premiership to a team that hasn’t won a title in 39 years?
By Roy Masters
June 20, 2025

When Jason Ryles was appointed head coach of the Eels in July last year, a Parramatta premiership player and former club official sent me a text. Aware of my relationship with Ryles who was then an assistant at the Storm, the ex-player wrote: “Tell Jason to surround himself with his own people. That (Parramatta) river isn’t full of eels, it’s full of piranhas. He’ll kill it there if he lives by his sword.”

As it transpired, Ryles’s actions suggest he instinctively reached the same conclusion. He installed Nathan Brown, his former head coach at the Dragons, as his No 1 assistant, telling this masthead, “I knew I needed more experience in the coaching group. Brownie was available, he was my coach at the Dragons, had also coached the Knights and Warriors and had only ever been a head coach. He’s also good with the attack. He complements me.”

Ryles, 46, also wielded his own sword when he moved on fullback and captain Clint Gutherson and veteran prop Reagan Campbell-Gillard, as well as sidelining regular forwards Shaun Lane and Ryan Matterson.

Ryles says, “The changes needed to happen but happened naturally. The fullback and front rower got longer and better money deals elsewhere. I also knew I had to regenerate the roster. The roster was older and not as fast and athletic as I wanted. I didn’t know how it would all work out but it went well in the end.”

It’s addition by subtraction. By releasing highly paid older players, Ryles has money in the salary cap to reward a greater number of talented youngsters. The downside is a team which can’t stay the distance with the top clubs, as demonstrated in the last two losses, 18-10 to the Panthers and 30-12 to the Bulldogs. “We can’t hang in there for the long period,” Ryles said. “We have a lot of young kids here.”

Ryles’s approach to players is similar to the legendary coach Jack Gibson who won Parramatta’s first premiership, 34 years after the club’s entry into the top league, a drought exceeded by the current one where the Eels last grand final victory was in 1986.

Gibson coached by osmosis, the imperceptible assimilation of knowledge. While Ryles is not Gibson, he does encourage players to figure things out for themselves. As one of his colleagues said of Ryles time in Melbourne, “He likes to plant the seed and let it germinate in the player’s mind.”

For example, I asked how he treated Zac Lomax who was signed by former coach Brad Arthur for less money than he was receiving at the Dragons because he was a winger wanting to play centre. Ryles started him there in the opening round, a humiliating 56-18 loss to the Storm but Lomax has starred for NSW as a winger and will be compensated for the money lost by leaving the Dragons via the NSWRL’s payment of $30,000 for each Origin match. “I let him work that out for himself,” Ryles said of a talented player who confused himself and must now realise he is a winger, not a centre.

As for the warning to Ryles that the Parramatta river is “full of piranhas” – suggesting a club with marrow-deep grudges and a witches brew of ancient hatreds – Ryles makes it clear he quarantines himself from what are now called “external factors” and is a player’s coach.

“The biggest thing for me is the support I get from Mitch (Moses) and Junior Paulo. I keep them in the loop on what I plan to do, while always getting their opinion but not compromising my relationship with the other players.”

Ryles has a finely tuned sensitivity meter. He knows a coach must never under-estimate the petty jealousies in the dressing room. Clubs, such as the Rabbitohs, have imploded by the coach investing too much power in two senior players.
Gibson faced a simmering mutiny when he joined Parramatta in 1981 after the club had failed to recover from the 1977 grand final loss to the Dragons – then captained by Steve Edge. A veteran Parramatta player predicted “Jack Gibson will f--- this club”, after Gibson recruited Edge as captain, rather than giving the honour to an Eel. Gibson’s Parramatta won three successive premierships with Edge as skipper.

Ryles has similar faith in his captain, saying of Moses, “We got all the options out of his contract. He’s done until the end of 2029. He’s the cornerstone of where we are going.”

Although a player’s coach, Ryles is not deaf to any murmurs outside the dressing room. He says of chief executive Jim Sarantinos and football manager Mark O’Neill, “At times I can sense their nervousness at some of the decisions I’ve made but they’ve supported me.” Of the possibility of piranha sightings in the Parramatta river, he says, “I’ve experienced challenges in a couple of areas but the club knew it was ready for change.”

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Ryles’s journey to the top is different from all the assistants who have been working up the NRL’s food chain to head coach.

Wests Tigers Benji Marshall, like Brown, went straight from playing to head coach and others, such as the Sharks Craig Fitzgibbon, had a long apprenticeship. Ryles spent the interim between playing and being an NRL assistant at the Storm and Roosters as captain/coach of the Wollongong Red Devils, 2014-15. He had his own team.

“It was one of the hardest things I have ever done,” he says. “I don’t recommend it, if you are a front rower. But it helped me enormously because I had to do everything, from putting the witches hats out to dropping players. I had to do all that while being captain, calling the shots and putting my head into the scrum.”

An NRL assistant is excused from performing one of a head coach’s most difficult duties – staring a player in the eye and demoting him to reserve grade. “I’ve drawn on that Wollongong experience when dropping players,” he says, perhaps explaining why he can sensitively deliver bad news in an era when players resemble Ming vases – precious commodities that shatter when dropped.

Ryles’s empathy with players is also born of his own disappointments. “Wayne (Bennett) moved me on (from the Dragons in 2009) and then I got moved on by the Roosters (in 2011).”

In the middle year (2010), the Dragons won the premiership, beating his Roosters. He then joined the Storm but a hamstring injury ruled him out of Melbourne’s 2012 victory.

He went to Melbourne, he says, “to play with Smithy.” If learning under hooker Cameron Smith, the NRL’s most capped player made Melbourne the place to be, it is also the club to be tutored by, as he says, “the greatest coach ever” (Craig Bellamy). To follow Bellamy who has “put all the systems in place” was the principal reason he agreed to return to the club as a head coach in waiting, after rejecting an offer to coach the Dragons.

The Dragons claim to have cooled on Ryles when, during negotiations for a five-year contract, the possibility of a pay-out after year three was raised. Ryles says, “I haven’t heard that. Maybe that’s more to do with George (Mimis, his manager). The reason I went back to Melbourne was it was there. They thought Craig was getting closer to the end. If Melbourne wasn’t on offer, I would have gone to the Dragons.” As it transpired, Bellamy will coach into his 24th season in 2026.

Those who live by the sword, die by the sword, we learnt in the gospel of Matthew. It’s unlikely Ryles will die by any sword he wields because the one mentioned at the top of this story was used to gently scalpel away aged talent.

He didn’t live by the sword as a player, being more mind than muscle, more technique than testosterone. A giant in stature, he would sometimes infuriate his coach, even Brown, now his assistant.

“How can we get him stirred up to belt blokes?” coaches asked. The times may not have perfectly suited Ryles as a player, although he represented Australia in 15 Tests and once, when asked if he wanted to tour with the Kangaroos at the time of the September 11 bombings in New York, said he would play in Afghanistan if it meant earning a Kangaroo jumper.

However, the times may well suit him as a coach, given the modern player’s sensitivities, such as the penchant for embracing his opponent after the game and joining an on field post-game collective in prayer. After all, given the NRL’s chaotic contracting rules, why not reach out with a hand to help your opponent to his feet? He could be your teammate next year.

His detractors say he is self-centred but all coaches occasionally confront that jarring combination of selfishness and selflessness. “He’s not a confrontationalist, like Craig,” one former Storm colleague said. Asked to comment, Ryles said, “I’m easy, mate.”
 

Poupou Escobar

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Our club certainly lacks that intangible resource that might be called unity. Can a head coach fix it or is that above his pay grade? Can he at least shield the players from it? Not if TPA providers from opposing factions have access to them. It's very exciting.
 

Delboy

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Arthur tried to shield the players from the mess that was our front office immediately post the salary cap debacle. All that did was divide the club - the opposite of the unity required.
Not sure in real terms that the front office is as strong as it should be. Well run clubs understand that is how you are successful, employ people in those important positions that are viewed as being in at least the top quartile of performers in that role.

Thats how good businesses across all industries select staff, although we set up shop after the govt told us we needed oversight, definitely now there is a need to review all front office positions to ensure the new coach has experienced admin to assist him. He saw the need in the coaching set up, now it’s needed across the front office.

So it’s up to Beach and board to act to strengthen that most important area.
 

emjaycee

Coach
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Not sure in real terms that the front office is as strong as it should be. Well run clubs understand that is how you are successful, employ people in those important positions that are viewed as being in at least the top quartile of performers in that role.

Thats how good businesses across all industries select staff, although we set up shop after the govt told us we needed oversight, definitely now there is a need to review all front office positions to ensure the new coach has experienced admin to assist him. He saw the need in the coaching set up, now it’s needed across the front office.

So it’s up to Beach and board to act to strengthen that most important area.
Here is the link to his LinkedIn profile if you want to reach out and let him know what needs doing.
 

Delboy

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Here is the link to his LinkedIn profile if you want to reach out and let him know what needs doing.
This is a forum to express opinions, you can pas it on to your mates if you think it’s important. Anyway, glad you believe they are up to the task. Let’s see how it goes from here, want them to succeed but past history is not providing as much confidence as most would like.
 

King-Gutho94

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Arthur tried to shield the players from the mess that was our front office immediately post the salary cap debacle. All that did was divide the club - the opposite of the unity required.
BA did that to hide the shambles of a footy program he was running.

If the board didn't know they were none the wiser.

I am sure you have heard just like me that Ryles has been more open and honest with the path he wants to take us & have the front office more connected to the footy program then what Arthur did.

Ryles though isn't the issue right now its other key pillars like MON & lack of footy IQ in the front office that is hurting us.
 
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