Jdb case

[jeffdragon]

The Melbourne clown wants him stood down. .IF it was Smith or Slater when they are playing would he say the same thing..

 

[possm]

The Melbourne clown wants him stood down. .IF it was Smith or Slater when they are playing would he say the same thing..

I'm of the opinion that you are correct. The Melbourne clown's suggestion/advice is not genuine and would not be his view if one of the Storm's players were in the same position as JDB.

I've suggested that the NRL take responsibility for such decisions and also handle all financial arrangements associated with their decision.

 

[Dragonslayer]

I will just throw this out there:

Does everyone assume IF DeBelin plays football this year it will he in 1st grade?

Playing could simply mean running around in ISP. This way the club and NRL honour the obligation to allow the player to play football, it doesnt say they have to play 1st grade.
It will he interesting to hear opinions on this.

As I said just throwing this out there.

 

[Overseas dragon]

I will just throw this out there:

Does everyone assume IF DeBelin plays football this year it will he in 1st grade?

Playing could simply mean running around in ISP. This way the club and NRL honour the obligation to allow the player to play football, it doesnt say they have to play 1st grade.
It will he interesting to hear opinions on this.

As I said just throwing this out there.

The way things are looking JDB will get paid but not play. . .... I agree with that philosophy.. ..

 

[Drag Queen]

That ex detective should have told you if a victim has noticeable injuries & her record of events tells them how she got them, they can only act on her statement (as also the Judge), it is up to the lawyers & jury to ask the questions to find the truth of Guilty or Innocent. If he's guilty, put him away, You & others obviously have him guilty before he has his day in court to tell his side of the story.

The way things are looking JDB will get paid but not play. . .... I agree with that philosophy.. ..

Agree OD. I had a sneaky peak at Reddit comments yesterday. Suffice to say there are plenty of lynch mob comments on there, from members of our club and others teams. Due legal process is warranted, but in the meantime I do not wish to watch the booing that will inevitably take place if JBD takes to the field. It can only disrupt the team.

 

[Drag Queen]

I will just throw this out there:

Does everyone assume IF DeBelin plays football this year it will he in 1st grade?

Playing could simply mean running around in ISP. This way the club and NRL honour the obligation to allow the player to play football, it doesnt say they have to play 1st grade.
It will he interesting to hear opinions on this.

As I said just throwing this out there.

You have a very good point there. Quite a sensible one too.

 

[slippery5]

Agree OD. I had a sneaky peak at Reddit comments yesterday. Suffice to say there are plenty of lynch mob comments on there, from members of our club and others teams. Due legal process is warranted, but in the meantime I do not wish to watch the booing that will inevitably take place if JBD takes to the field. It can only disrupt the team.

I can guarantee you with such stress hanging over your head, it is impossible to maintain optimum physical condition & would struggle with weight not to mention mental issues.
I think his first option was to show it is business as usual, but that might be beyond ones mental state.

 

[Drag Queen]

I can guarantee you with such stress hanging over your head, it is impossible to maintain optimum physical condition & would struggle with weight not to mention mental issues.
I think his first option was to show it is business as usual, but that might be beyond ones mental state.

I would have thought quite the opposite TBH. Business as usual? I think you may have answered your own question in your first sentence. No disrespect intended by the way.

 

[Crush]

I would speculate that JDB must have an ace up his sleeve so to speak, something that will prove his innocence. This is the reason that the club is fully supportive of him and the reason why JDB wants to play on.

 

[Wittenberg]

I admit feeling angry at the hypocrisy being peddled from Storm characters and elements of the media, but I hope we decide not to play JDB, at least at the beginning of the season. The booing will echo around every ground, mistakes will be cheered and the motivation for our other players cannot be helped by this. It will simply be a huge, very huge distraction. The case goes back to court in April but it is unlikely that it will be finalised by season's end. I hope I am wrong regarding the timeframe but I don't think we should play him. Those that argue that he deserves to carry on with business as normal until the finding ignore the fact that 'business as normal" for him has already ended and will be that while for quite some time. Our team needs to be able, as much as it can with this sorry affair occurring in the background, needs to be able to get on with business as normal not just Jack. Our CEO implied we will play him for legal reasons....as that might be a barrel we are held over. People assume a club, and the NRL for that matter, can stand anyone down when it wants to. Legally and contract wise that is probably not always true. Nevertheless I would feel more comfortable with him not playing for us at the moment and I bet our sponsors feel the same. If he was a player from another club we would be shouting the place down if he was being picked to play by another side.

 

[Willow]

Well mate if you don't know the answer to that I'm not going to tell you ....

lol. Cop out.

 

[Drag Queen]

I would speculate that JDB must have an ace up his sleeve so to speak, something that will prove his innocence. This is the reason that the club is fully supportive of him and the reason why JDB wants to play on.

We don't know Crush. Widely reported on news sites that the cops saw him extremely intoxicated at approximately 2am. Let's just say that commands a capital S for stupidity. Wollongong is a pretty small place. I'll leave it at that.

 

[BLM01]

At this stage I was only talking about players on an NRL contract who are in the top 30 of a club. Yes at this stage we need to keep a lid on such a scheme if only to keep cost down.

I am not in the insurance industry but I am the President of a charity and Vice President of another. Both charities have insurance policies to cover miss-behaviour of staff and volunteers. The variation in quotes from one insurance company to the other is wide ranging without any visible difference in cover. I am sure the NRL can find cover for such a scheme.

And who are the NRL employees?..not the players.
If NRL takes out a policy then it would be discriminating not to cover all forms of renumeration for its employees as you say not just the Top 30 of 1 side from a NRL club.
This inclufdes all paid players under the NRL banner which includes NSWRL, QRL, interstate sides & CRL.
You have to cover everyone with a similar policy otherways the players association wont allow it too happen..nor should they

 

[Willow]

Had a laugh when I read the Telegraph poll where they want jdb stood down.

2000 untested respondants. And some folks are taking this as a serious poll.

Trial by media much?

The sad thing is that the ARL/NRL may actually cave in to this trial by media.

 

[BLM01]

We don't know Crush. Widely reported on news sites that the cops saw him extremely intoxicated at approximately 2am. Let's just say that commands a capital S for stupidity. Wollongong is a pretty small place. I'll leave it at that.

Yes that night like thousands of others were so called intoxicated as it was the local annual Santa pub crawl which starts at midday and goes til.....l..
Just about every young person in the shire and surrounds are out and the pub they were at is the biggest draw card...being North Wollongong.
But Yes S for stupidity for being high profile, bit pissed in the public domain and of course leads to stupid decisions and vulnerability.... I will grant you that
And there was few other Top 30 young Dragon players with him out on that same night probably just as intoxicated.
BTW... Wollongong 3rd biggest city in NSW of course behind Newcastle...not that small

 

[TruSaint]

Had a laugh when I read the Telegraph poll where they want jdb stood down.

2000 untested respondants. And some folks are taking this as a serious poll.

Trial by media much?

The sad thing is that the ARL/NRL may actually cave in to this trial by media.

Fair call, however, I think its fair to assume the media / social media scrutiny won't go away anytime soon. I have posted my opinion on why JDB should be stepped down on full pay. If anything, this onslaught now by the likes of the Telecrap and others can only serve as an additional distraction to all involved, and the best remedy as at now is to announce that Jack wont be playing until the matter is determined.

 

[Willow]

Fair call, however, I think its fair to assume the media / social media scrutiny won't go away anytime soon. I have posted my opinion on why JDB should be stepped down on full pay. If anything, this onslaught now by the likes of the Telecrap and others can only serve as an additional distraction to all involved, and the best remedy as at now is to announce that Jack wont be playing until the matter is determined.

Jessica Halloran was on The Drum this week holding up the News Corp poll as 'evidence'. It turned into a circus. At one point the panel host had to remind them that the charges were alleged.

Meanwhile, the AFL hush money paid to sexual assault victims goes largely unreported. Look up Liz Ellis's condemnation of this.

We should never have trial by media. We should call it out for what it is.

 

[TruSaint]

Jessica Halloran was on The Drum this week holding up the News Corp poll as 'evidence'. It turned into a circus. At one point the panel host had to remind them that the charges were alleged.

Meanwhile, the AFL hush money paid to sexual assault victims goes largely unreported. Look up Liz Ellis's condemnation of this.

We should never have trial by media.

Thus my post... I am not in disagreement about trial by media, quite the opposite. just pointing out that sadly, this is the reality.

 

[Willow]

Thus my post... I am not in disagreement about trial by media, quite the opposite. just pointing out that sadly, this is the reality.

So we should accept it? I'm not having a go at anyone, just asking the question.

 

[TruSaint]

So we should accept it? I'm having a go at anyone, just asking the question.

Accepting trial by media ? No.
Absolutely. not.

For either side ( as I have seen social media posts already blaming the victim ).
Combatting it is another matter .
I don't have the answer.