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Joel Monaghan quits Raiders over Twitter pic

Should he be banned from the game for life?

  • Yes

    Votes: 137 47.1%
  • No

    Votes: 154 52.9%

  • Total voters
    291
  • Poll closed .
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It hasn't been harmless to the Raiders who had sponsors threaten to pull a Million dollars of money from the club nor for the NRL who have had to contend with negative publicity not only in this country but internationally. Add to this the TV rights being up for sale next year and the lack of injury to the dog doesn't matter too much.

Monaghan maybe a good bloke but that isn't really a defence for bad behavior anymore

The damage to the Raiders can be seen from the fact that they are now undoubtedly the most well known rugby league club globally, and known for what one of their players did with a dog, rather than the premierships they have won and the great players they've had like Meninga, Daley, Clyde et al.
 

Razor

Coach
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Wow.... What a backward thinking philosophy on promoting this game. People want to make it an international game. Judging by the countless threads on international expansion and improvement you do. Of course it f**king matters what other countries think of the code. People want more money coming into the code. Yet the first image sponsors and new fans get of this code is one of the games best players with his genitalia in a dogs mouth. It's entirely negative publicity in multiple countries. There are no positives from this. None. And the more incidents that occur the more likely this code won't expand into big markets such as Asia and Europe.

And in practically every country outside Australia, NZ, UK, France and Pacific Islands he's being referred to as a "Rugby" player, not a "Rugby League" player. So there's no bad publicity for League in any of those countries.
 

badav

Bench
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I bring this up everytime with The Outraged (I'll call em that from now on) when there's a scandal, but it never gets answered.

I'll ask it again:

If this damages the game, & parents won't want there kiddies watching/playing League - then why is it every single year crowds & rating increase?

Crowds and ratings aren't the only thing driving league.

Junior participation is also very important. And if mums don't want their kids playing league, you would have to have your head up your arse pretty far to thing that won't have a flow on effect.
 

El Diablo

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Crowds and ratings aren't the only thing driving league.

Junior participation is also very important. And if mums don't want their kids playing league, you would have to have your head up your arse pretty far to thing that won't have a flow on effect.

you didn't answer the question

why do crowds, participation and ratings increase?

last year was good in all 3 and there was bad press galore

see State of the Game: Record-breaking Year


PARTICIPATION
• Rugby League is on track to create a new record with more than 470,000 children expected to participate in the game across clubs and schools in 2010, surpassing last year‟s record of 456,142 registrations.
• Junior registrations for 10-18 years age groups are on track to create a new participation record, with almost 90,000 registrations.
• Female participation has increased 11% in 2010 to 4,362.
• Interest in the game at entry age levels is unprecedented in 2010, with 4-12 years age group already at 72,309 registrations, compared to 71,269 at the end of last year.
• 54,470 school students have so far been engaged in One Community programs in the classroom including 'Eat Well, Play Well, Stay Well' and 'Rugby League Reads‟ - up 13% on 2009.
• More school students participated in regular competitions and competitive Gala Days than ever before.
• Participation in Primary and High School based programs is on track to engage over one million school students in 2010, with the game already engaging 727,038 students (up 7% on 2009), including over 70,000 school students participating in the five-session module of the new Harvey Norman Backyard League program.
• Over 100,000 students in both Primary and High Schools participated in regular school competitions of six rounds or more (up 13% on 2009).

and why do parents send their kids to school given the numerous pedo allegations made against teachers?
 
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Walt Flanigan

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The damage to the Raiders can be seen from the fact that they are now undoubtedly the most well known rugby league club globally, and known for what one of their players did with a dog, rather than the premierships they have won and the great players they've had like Meninga, Daley, Clyde et al.

Dramatic much?
 

m0nty

Juniors
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you didn't answer the question

why do crowds, participation and ratings increase?

last year was good in all 3 and there was bad press galore

see State of the Game: Record-breaking Year




and why do parents send their kids to school given the numerous pedo allegations made against teachers?
Crowds and ratings increased in the NRL this year because Sydney teams were more prominent due to the Storm scandal removing them from the ladder and the Broncos falling away, plus the Storm fans turned up in droves after the scandal.

You can say that the fact that the scandals didn't prevent this proves your point, but I think the scandals are more of a long-term concern than short-term. There's a certain hardcore element to the supporter base which enjoys the moronic blokey bulltish, but there are other factors that won't surface for a decade or more. The concerns about junior participation are real.
 

El Diablo

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Crowds and ratings increased in the NRL this year because Sydney teams were more prominent due to the Storm scandal removing them from the ladder and the Broncos falling away, plus the Storm fans turned up in droves after the scandal.

You can say that the fact that the scandals didn't prevent this proves your point, but I think the scandals are more of a long-term concern than short-term. There's a certain hardcore element to the supporter base which enjoys the moronic blokey bulltish, but there are other factors that won't surface for a decade or more. The concerns about junior participation are real.

so says the AFL troll

you have nothing to back up your statement with

NOTHING

you also conveniently left out any reference to participation increasing
 
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Willow

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Phil kearns has been implicated in a similar indecent.... link coming

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/co...00013/Mr-Big-is-really-Munsters-nice-guy.html

The recollection had reminded him of the time he was part of an Australian squad preparing for the 1999 World Cup final against France. "We had one of those video conferencing systems where players could talk to and see their wives and kids back in Australia. Any way, in the week before the final, Phil Kearns, who had been injured and had returned home, was using one to send us a good-luck message.
"He was talking to the guys and when he walked into shot it was obvious that he had no shirt on. I thought he just had no top on but his wife, who was holding the video camera, panned down to reveal that Phil was stark naked. Better than that, his dog - he had a big Alsatian - then walked over, nudged him in the nuts and started licking. I've never seen anything like it.
"We found out afterwards that Phil had rubbed jam or honey into his groin to get his dog to do that on cue. It was his way of settling down the squad who were really tense and worried at the final coming up."
There's nowhere to go after that..


If true that takes the cake - not drunk and wife involved!

Did anyone worry about what Switzerland thought?
 

chefman21

Juniors
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mate, please. people making threads on an internet forum doesn't mean much. no one IN rugby league has illusions of making it a popular sport in places like Switzerland.
What about the fact that it trended in Twitter, made news in countries with no rugby league association and is still making news overseas days after it happened...


first things first, we should be able to have a Four Nations where more than 2 teams are actual contenders. that's what international development is focused on right now (or should be).
Yeah great.... So we should just ignore what happened and the bad publicity it has given in those countries? Shouldn't we be doing all we can to increase supporters as much as possible? Crowds may increase year after year, but shouldn't we be maximizing that increase as much as possible?

And in practically every country outside Australia, NZ, UK, France and Pacific Islands he's being referred to as a "Rugby" player, not a "Rugby League" player. So there's no bad publicity for League in any of those countries.
How about the fact that many of the articles overseas call him a rugby league player who plays in the National Rugby League? Miss that one?

you didn't answer the question

why do crowds, participation and ratings increase?

last year was good in all 3 and there was bad press galore

see State of the Game: Record-breaking Year



PARTICIPATION
• Rugby League is on track to create a new record with more than 470,000 children expected to participate in the game across clubs and schools in 2010, surpassing last year‟s record of 456,142 registrations.
• Junior registrations for 10-18 years age groups are on track to create a new participation record, with almost 90,000 registrations.
• Female participation has increased 11% in 2010 to 4,362.
• Interest in the game at entry age levels is unprecedented in 2010, with 4-12 years age group already at 72,309 registrations, compared to 71,269 at the end of last year.
• 54,470 school students have so far been engaged in One Community programs in the classroom including 'Eat Well, Play Well, Stay Well' and 'Rugby League Reads‟ - up 13% on 2009.
• More school students participated in regular competitions and competitive Gala Days than ever before.
• Participation in Primary and High School based programs is on track to engage over one million school students in 2010, with the game already engaging 727,038 students (up 7% on 2009), including over 70,000 school students participating in the five-session module of the new Harvey Norman Backyard League program.
• Over 100,000 students in both Primary and High Schools participated in regular school competitions of six rounds or more (up 13% on 2009).



and why do parents send their kids to school given the numerous pedo allegations made against teachers?

Is that in line with population increases? It's nice to say something increased compared to years past, but unless you take into account population growth it means nothing. In fact by percentage, attendances have dropped off for the past fifteen years as compared to population growth according to the last Australian census:
http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/subs...ECA25726D0075D5DB&0&2005-06&25.01.2007&Latest


Rugby league 1995 1999 2005-06
Male 893.5 893.2 862.8 13.7 12.9 11.5
Female 422.2 478.8 499.3 6.2 6.7 6.5
Persons 1315.7 1371.9 1362.0 9.9 9.7 9.0
 
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Moffo

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Oh the irony.

You're on your wowster outrage high horse, yet you'd let your 8 year old son on the internet. :lol:

yeh, because the internet is the only place you could see that sort of thing.

i knew you were dumb...but wow, this takes it to new levels
 

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