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Poupou Escobar

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he started at a club that had made the grand final twelve months earlier.

That was the shittest grand final side in history. We scraped into the finals in 8th place FFS. The year before it we missed the finals and the year after we missed the finals as well.

Take off your rose-coloured glasses about how good the 2009 team was. They didn't even start performing in that grand final until the game was as good as over. Just like in 2001.
 

spartan2153

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Given our form last year of course I expected us to improve with better players.



I think our injuries have been pretty serious. So far we have played nearly half our games without our best player. The loss of Ben Smith has also hurt our right side defence badly.



Sandow for one week is comparable to Rose for seven; of course it is. Rose won a grand final last year, meaning he wasn't dropped because he lacks ability. Therefore he was dropped for another reason.

Look, you see that interview as a Kearney fail because you hate Kearney. I see it as a journo fail because I hate the media. The fact is there are no facts when it comes to how we feel about that interview. It is just a matter of opinion.


LOL you think we are biased because we think kearney cant coach. SO far his record proves we are right. n

GEORGE ROSE is a interchange forward on 120k a year & SANDOW is a marquee halfback on 500k. They play different roles. YOu are on some wicked drug to see everything so positive.

Kearney has led us to the worst start since the
60's do you understand that or you just blinded by his long face
 
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If he's capable of doing that in the first place. He came to the wrong club at the wrong time and while he has this long term plan whether he has the ability to execute it is another question all together. He's not been in this position as a coach before, he thrived under a successful unit under Bellamy at the time and never really had to deal with the hard times. Now he has to and is struggling to come up with answers. When clubs need an overhaul the sensible thing to do is to get someone experienced in, like we did before when we signed Brian Smith for the '97 season. I'd be a lot more confident of things turning around if we had a more experienced coach in charge who has been in this position before and knows from experience how to fight your way out of it.

Agree 100%

But how many coaches out there know how to make a shit club strong? I reckon only Smith and Hasler. Maybe Cleary.

They've all got jobs at less demanding clubs. Why would they come to Parra?
 

Poupou Escobar

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LOL you think we are biased because we think kearney cant coach. SO far his record proves we are right. n

His record proves nothing mate. It proves no more than Hagan's or Stuart's early records proved. All it does is point to the quality (or lack thereof) in the clubs they took over.

GEORGE ROSE is a interchange forward on 120k a year & SANDOW is a marquee halfback on 500k. They play different roles. YOu are on some wicked drug to see everything so positive.

Kearney has led us to the worst start since the
60's do you understand that or you just blinded by his long face

It must be easy having such a simplistic view of the world. How do you manage to be semi-literate and still have all the answers?
 

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Agree 100%

But how many coaches out there know how to make a shit club strong? I reckon only Smith and Hasler. Maybe Cleary.

They've all got jobs at less demanding clubs. Why would they come to Parra?

You could well be correct they may not want to come here. But I believe the board and CEO need to act and try and see what's out there and at least consider and enquire about other possibilities. Perhaps they are already, it's not something they are going to come out and say publicly. But it's getting to the point now that something needs to be done sooner rather than later, 1 from 9 just isn't acceptable. And with every loss to add to that the pressure is only going to get worse. SK may have had a long term plan, but he needs to develop a counter plan to deal with with this s**t.
 

Ralphy

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Maybe because they know sacking coaches isn't the answer. Sacking coaches is a kneejerk response to fan or sponsor outrage. It has nothing to do with improving a team.
Remember John Peard?
Dunno if you were even born then , but he was just as good a coach as this FW.
We sacked him.
Then we got Jack.
 

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If he's capable of doing that in the first place. He came to the wrong club at the wrong time and while he has this long term plan whether he has the ability to execute it is another question all together. He's not been in this position as a coach before, he thrived under a successful unit under Bellamy at the time and never really had to deal with the hard times. Now he has to and is struggling to come up with answers. When clubs need an overhaul the sensible thing to do is to get someone experienced in, like we did before when we signed Brian Smith for the '97 season. I'd be a lot more confident of things turning around if we had a more experienced coach in charge who has been in this position before and knows from experience how to fight your way out of it.

Gotta love the continuing comparisons between the Storm and Parra. It's like comparing apples and oranges in the way the joints were run when the respective coaches join those clubs. The storm set up has always been first class, Parra's from all reports was shithouse at best.
 

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Remember John Peard?
Dunno if you were even born then , but he was just as good a coach as this FW.
We sacked him.
Then we got Jack.

Peard had 11 wins, 2 draws and 9 losses (missing the finals). His record was far better than Kearney's, and we'll never know whether he may have been able to do what Jack did the following year (14 wins, 1 draw, 7 losses and a premiership).
 
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mickdo

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Gotta love the continuing comparisons between the Storm and Parra. It's like comparing apples and oranges in the way the joints were run when the respective coaches join those clubs. The storm set up has always been first class, Parra's from all reports was shithouse at best.

Definitely no comparison. Only one of them used brown paper bags.
 

spartan2153

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His record proves nothing mate. It proves no more than Hagan's or Stuart's early records proved. All it does is point to the quality (or lack thereof) in the clubs they took over.



It must be easy having such a simplistic view of the world. How do you manage to be semi-literate and still have all the answers?

are you not the one who loves his stats
 

Poupou Escobar

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Remember John Peard?
Dunno if you were even born then , but he was just as good a coach as this FW.
We sacked him.
Then we got Jack.

Well when Jack Gibson comes off contract again maybe we'll turf Kearney for him.

Don't forget we won the comp in each year Gibson was at the club. he was only here for three years so he must have taken over a decent squad.
 

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Definitely no comparison. Only one of them used brown paper bags.

That pisses me off like any other Parra supporter because of the 09 gf but don't think for a minute all the success started happening because Bellamy walked into the job and the 2 books. They were dominating the QRL colts comp for around 10 years year in year out when that comp was as strong as the sydney comp.
 

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Well when Jack Gibson comes off contract again maybe we'll turf Kearney for him.

Don't forget we won the comp in each year Gibson was at the club. he was only here for three years so he must have taken over a decent squad.

He also had that famous saying that a coach should never stay at a club for more than 3 years. I wonder what his opinion of 5 year plans would have been.
 

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He also had that famous saying that a coach should never stay at a club for more than 3 years. I wonder what his opinion of 5 year plans would have been.

I reckon like Bennett he would only have taken over a club that had a chance of winning a comp in the short term.

But coaches don't get that luxury until they've paid their dues at a shithole. Hasler was at Manly for eight years. Didn't seem to do him any harm. Didn't win anything until his fifth year either.
 

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I reckon like Bennett he would only have taken over a club that had a chance of winning a comp in the short term.

But coaches don't get that luxury until they've paid their dues at a shithole. Hasler was at Manly for eight years. Didn't seem to do him any harm. Didn't win anything until his fifth year either.

Didnt Hasler take the shithole to the semis in his 2nd year? Certainly no where near the spoon in his first year. Improving every year, doesnt hurt I agree
 

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