Kearney

[parra pete]

Definitely no comparison. Only one of them used brown paper bags.

Parra got Mick Hagan when it shoulda got his brother Bob, and Steve Kearney when they shoulda got 'Wally' Waldren...

 

[mickdo]

Don't forget we won the comp in each year Gibson was at the club. he was only here for three years so he must have taken over a decent squad.

Yep, only 3 extra wins during the regular season in his first year, but that was enough to make the semis and a dynasty was born. The foundations had already been laid.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Didnt Hasler take the shithole to the semis in his 2nd year?

Hagan and Stuart won a comp in their first. What's your point?

Certainly no where near the spoon in his first year.

Actually they came third last. Just like Kearney.

Improving every year, doesnt hurt I agree

When this year is over then we can decide if we've improved or not.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Excuses excuses excuses.

I reckon you merkins are just looking for excuses to write him off so you can think that magic bullet will turn us into world beaters.

Here's a reality check for you; this club is in shit state and has been for years. The death rattle in 2009 was just f**king cruel for getting our hopes up.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yep, only 3 extra wins during the regular season in his first year, but that was enough to make the semis and a dynasty was born. The foundations had already been laid.

Sounds like Ricky Stuart 2002-2004.

The difference was Gibson was lucky enough to face Manly in his final two grand finals. Poor old Ricky was stuck facing Penrith and Canterbury, so he only won one grand final - against a shit club (the Warriors).

 

[TheParraboy]

Hagan and Stuart won a comp in their first. What's your point?

Anyone can cherry pick to suit their own argument, your the king at that

Actually they came third last. Just like Kearney.

from 3rd last to semis in his 2nd year, very unlike SK

When this year is over then we can decide if we've improved or not.

In other words wait till we win a few games when out of finals contention, then praise the bloke?

 

[Parra]

I reckon you merkins are just looking for excuses to write him off so you can think that magic bullet will turn us into world beaters.

Here's a reality check for you; this club is in shit state and has been for years. The death rattle in 2009 was just f**king cruel for getting our hopes up.

I reckon you merkins are just looking for an excuse to keep him. Winning has nothing to do with it, you are just too stubborn.

Here's a reality check for you; this is a fantastic club with a proud heritage and fans will not let merkins like you drag it down just to justify your shite opinions or to defend a coach whose time is well past up.

 

[Fathead]

The difference between big jack, Bennett and co is that they didn't/don't take crap from any player and they certainly wouldn't take the crap that Hayne and Roberts have been serving up lately. They found players who had heart first and skill second. The implosions served up recently are just unacceptable. Their mantra was also speedy backs and tough forwards..we have neither.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Anyone can cherry pick to suit their own argument, your the king at that

So what's your argument? That Hasler is a better coach than Kearney? Congratulations genius.

from 3rd last to semis in his 2nd year, very unlike SK

Hasler had the benefit of starting with a clean slate. Kind of like Chris Anderson with Melbourne.

Kearney took over a club with issues. Just like former premiership winner John Lang at Souths.

Not every club is as easy to get results at, if you hadn't noticed.

In other words wait till we win a few games when out of finals contention, then praise the bloke?

How about we just don't put shit on him? We were missing the finals well before Kearney came to the club. In the three years before he arrived here we made the finals once, scraping into eighth place.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I reckon you merkins are just looking for an excuse to keep him. Winning has nothing to do with it, you are just too stubborn.

Why would any of us give a f**k if we keep him? As soon as he's gone he's just another ex-employee of the club.

I supported Anderson too but as soon as he was gone I didn't give a f**k about him.

I'm certainly not any special fan of Steve Kearney. I'd be more excited about who we're replacing him with, even if it was a nuffy like Taylor or Anderson.

Here's a reality check for you; this is a fantastic club with a proud heritage and fans will not let merkins like you drag it down just to justify your shite opinions or to defend a coach whose time is well past up.

Mate we have been shit for the majority of our existence. Four premierships over a six year period is all we have to show for our pain. And the past fifteen years have been one long period of false hope and crushing disappointment.

 

[Eels Dude]

Actually they came third last. Just like Kearney.

Manly may have finished 3rd last in 2004 but they only missed the finals by 4 points, and finished 6 points ahead of the team that finished one spot below them on the ladder. So in reality they were closer to making the semis then they were wooden spooners. Last year our Eels on the other hand missed the 8 by 11 competition points and finished 1 point away from the spoon.

 

[mickdo]

I reckon you merkins are just looking for an excuse to keep him. Winning has nothing to do with it, you are just too stubborn.

Personally I just want the coaching merry go round to stop. Since Smith we've had far too many coaches and it doesn't provide any stability changing them all the time. Sack him at the end of the year if the titanic hasn't missed the iceberg, by all means.

 

[TheParraboy]

So what's your argument? That Hasler is a better coach than Kearney? Congratulations genius.

You brought up Hasler. Sure didnt do him any harm being there 8 years, but you convieniently forget he improved the side nicely in the initial couple of years to be the force they were when he left.

Hasler had the benefit of starting with a clean slate. Kind of like Chris Anderson with Melbourne.

Doubt it, they were a massive rabble when he took over

Kearney took over a club with issues. Just like former premiership winner John Lang at Souths.

John Lang also took over a rabble club called Penrith with issues, took them to a premiership win in no time - you get my drift about you cherry picking, i can do the same

Not every club is as easy to get results at, if you hadn't noticed.

True, but if you hadnt noticed, its also not easy to hold onto a coaching gig with a 20% odd winning record, of course SK is the exception.

How about we just don't put shit on him? We were missing the finals well before Kearney came to the club. In the three years before he arrived here we made the finals once, scraping into eighth place.

SK holds the record now of worst start to our clubs history in 50 years. You ,and the majority of us eels fans expected far better this year. We just seem to be going backwards rapidly. All any Parra fan wants is a steady improvement, not a downhill spiral after last years promising buildup

 

[Eels Dude]

Personally I just want the coaching merry go round to stop. Since Smith we've had far too many coaches and it doesn't provide any stability changing them all the time. Sack him at the end of the year if the titanic hasn't missed the iceberg, by all means.

If he's sacked at the end of the year as opposed to now, that limits the time we have to find a replacement. To further on from point about sacking coaches and stability, I'd like to add that when Hagan resigned end of 2007, and DA was sacked at the end of 2010, it was in the off season and thus instead going through a proper interview process we pretty much had to sign the only guys available at the time. By making a decision now, at least the board and CEO have an appropriate amount of time to find the most suitable candidate to move forward instead of making a rushed decision like the past couple of times.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The difference between big jack, Bennett and co is that they didn't/don't take crap from any player and they certainly wouldn't take the crap that Hayne and Roberts have been serving up lately. They found players who had heart first and skill second. The implosions served up recently are just unacceptable. Their mantra was also speedy backs and tough forwards..we have neither.

Technically the modern game is very different. These days you want big backs and fast forwards.

Agree though that players without mental toughness (or 'heart') won't win anything.

 

[spartan2153]

So what's your argument? That Hasler is a better coach than Kearney? Congratulations genius.



Hasler had the benefit of starting with a clean slate. Kind of like Chris Anderson with Melbourne.

Kearney took over a club with issues. Just like former premiership winner John Lang at Souths.

Not every club is as easy to get results at, if you hadn't noticed.



How about we just don't put shit on him? We were missing the finals well before Kearney came to the club. In the three years before he arrived here we made the finals once, scraping into eighth place.

are you serious. manly were broke & a bigger basket case than us. you are such a loser

 

[mickdo]

If he's sacked at the end of the year as opposed to now, that limits the time we have to find a replacement.

It's not like they can't start planning for it

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Manly may have finished 3rd last in 2004 but they only missed the finals by 4 points, and finished 6 points ahead of the team that finished one spot below them on the ladder. So in reality they were closer to making the semis then they were wooden spooners. Last year our Eels on the other hand missed the 8 by 11 competition points and finished 1 point away from the spoon.

They had a decent side though, with Andrew Walker and Michael Monaghan in the spine, and Menzies, Haumono and Watmough in the back-row.

We had a side that had finished 12th the previous year (because of shit halves) and then lost Cayless, Mateo, Inu, Grothe and Tahu.

Our strengths were at prop and fullback and that's it; Manly '04 were far more balanced.

This is why you can't judge coaches without looking at their teams. Is Mal Meninga really the greatest Origin coach of all time? Or just the one with the best record?

 

[Eels Dude]

It's not like they can't start planning for it

They can plan for it yes. But a coach is only going to come here if there position is available, otherwise they'll take another job with another club who is willing to offer them a position, or extend their existing contract with their current club. It's the same as it is with player signings, you've got to strike when the iron's hot or you just miss the boat.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

are you serious. manly were broke & a bigger basket case than us.

No they were just broke. It didn't stop them from signing players though. Here's their side for round 1:

1. Walker
2. Donald
3. Williamson
4. Stephenson
5. Hicks
6. Mullane
7. Monaghan
8. Heckenberg
9. Hollingsworth
10. Donnelly
11. Harris
12. Haumono
13. Menzies

14. Hopoate
15. Leuluai
16. Watmough
17. Dunley

Not a great side, but far more balanced than us last year, and by the end of the year the Stewart brothers were in first grade.