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Kembles Job is safe ...

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/4275427a1823.html


New Zealand rugby league coach Gary Kemble has been assured his job is safe regardless of the Kiwis' result against France on Sunday (NZT).

Kemble's position was thought to be on the line if the Kiwis failed to win the final game of their European tour following a series whitewash by Great Britain and a record defeat by Australia.
But the Kiwis coach told NZPA today the New Zealand Rugby League (NZRL) has guaranteed that he and his coaching team will have a chance to continue developing the current squad.
"They've told me that they're fully behind me," he said.
"They've said there's not going to be any changes at all.
"They understand the circumstances coming into it and they've been here around me and seen the way I work."
With a number of senior players unavailable through injury and other retired, Kemble has been forced to start over with an inexperienced squad.
Only six members of his 24-man squad came into the tour with more than 10 test appearances and young winger Shaun Kenny-Dowall, who has been handed his test debut against France, will become Kemble's 10th debutant in just five tests in charge.
While results have been disappointing, Kemble believes the new coaching team are creating a legacy that will benefit the Kiwis for years to come.
"In my lifetime, this is the first time I know of a Kiwi team going away with a brand-new team," he said.
"Only four players that came on this tour played in the Anzac test and Great Britain have built to their side over the last couple of seasons.
"We've played against a formidable Great Britain side and in two tests we lost by six points with a brand-new team.
"We've worked on players we think are going to be part of the scene of the next couple of seasons and we know the players that are maybe not up to that level at this stage.
"I've done all I can to try to produce some players that are going to be here for a long time.
"We believe we've done that and that we're creating depth in positions. We know that, the critics don't, but that's up to them.
"All that goes over my head now."
Although a win over France would ease the pressure on Kemble, he is more concerned with his team having something to cheer following a challenging tour.
"It's the players really that need a win," he said.
"They deserve a win after the last week-and-a-half.
"They've worked really hard and they thought they deserved a win last weekend with the way they trained and produced on the field."
 

Rich102

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I see Kemble says "They deserve a win after the last week-and-a-half".
How long has this tour been?
What do they deserve for the rest of the time?
 

dazza

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Mixmasterreece said:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4275427a1823.html


But the Kiwis coach told NZPA today the New Zealand Rugby League (NZRL) has guaranteed that he and his coaching team will have a chance to continue developing the current squad.
"They've told me that they're fully behind me," he said.
"They've said there's not going to be any changes at all.
"They understand the circumstances coming into it and they've been here around me and seen the way I work."
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all i see there, is kemble saying his job is safe. where are the quotes from anyone in the nzrl???

it`s all well & good saying " they said this, & they said that", but when are "they" actually gonna come out & say it???



cheers dazza
 

Jesbass

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If it's safe, what happened ton the unrealistic clause in his contract that required him to win 75% of his matches? The NZRL is pretty odd when they make these rediculous clauses so they can dump employees at the drop of a hat. :/
 

AliN

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Jesbass said:
If it's safe, what happened ton the unrealistic clause in his contract that required him to win 75% of his matches? The NZRL is pretty odd when they make these rediculous clauses so they can dump employees at the drop of a hat. :/

agree there Jesbass
 

Micistm

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Releases like this quite frankly make me worry even more for the state of the game. There are so many points in that release to take issue with, but my main niggles are the fact the Coach thought they played well last week! Yes there was an improvement, but still not a good performance IMO. Very soft tries let in, total confusion in attack with no direction or innovation.
The other issue is his point regarding 'The Critics', and that they themselves know whats going on and the critics don't! Most of the criticism over the last few weeks has been pretty fair and founded; I've seen little of the 'abuse' that Lowe mentioned on Radio Sport in regard to Kemble & family- If anything most have been sympathetic to the man, even if they believe he's out of his depth in the job.
I don't believe much will change until NZRL and friends stop using the ostrich approach and deal with issues.
The French test is something I want to see to gauge them; I also want to see the GB team play the Aussies for a yardstick. IMO I have still not seen anything that makes me think anything other than that the Kiwis have gone backwards. It's just the mana of the team seems gone. The desire to play for each other, the jersey. It's strange. Professional players should not be like that.
Honestly, I still don't know what to think. But I'm not optimistic for the immediate future
 

playdaball

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After today's performance his job still cannot be safe i.e - a dodgy win against a near minnow RL nation.
 

Micistm

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Amen brother...listening to the interview on Radio sport at the moment, you'd think they'd just pinged Aussie in a classic. That wasn't good, yet the win is probably enough for everyone concerned to turn a blind eye, pretend everything's alright, and file it all for the year.
Sigh.
 
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A win is a win, and it was desperately needed. the Frogs have nearly tipped over us and aussie at home over the last few seasons and aren't a simple prospect. We were on a hiding to nothing, win by 30, and "its only france", have a tight win and "should have beaten them by more".

Perrett really needs to work on his option taking at times, he is putting massive pressure on those around him with some of his plays. SKD was pretty good on debut, Whatuira played his best game for a while, Roberts was solid, Leuluai was good off the bench, Stanley showed more good signs, Lima and Moimoi were pretty good in the pack as well, and Mannerings involvement was big.

Not the greatest performance ever, but for this group of young guys, a pretty important win to get something under their belts
 

shiznit

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i really feel sorry for Kemble... hes been given a hospital ball by the NZRL with this tour...
he should never have been given this tour as a warm up to the job... they should have asked Tony Kemp(gets past freeman rule as he lives in NZ & hes had a 4 or so years of coaching in the NRL with a couple of seasons as head coach) to take the side to the world cup and then have Kemble as his assistant and get him to take over after the world cup...

sure i would just rather they scrap the freeman rule all-together and bring bluey back but from the comments ive read of Asotasi during on the sunday herald the main problem is the players are professionals and the coaching staff are amateur...
 

mean

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shiznit said:
but from the comments ive read of Asotasi during on the sunday herald the main problem is the players are professionals and the coaching staff are amateur...

I'd like to get paid to underperform by missing my target objectives, amble back to my goals, lose sight of any initiative, and rest my hands on my base of support when times become critical. Key performance indicators (KPI) acronym = Kiwis performance inadequate.
 

Micistm

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I do feel really sorry for Kemble, and I have no idea where it goes from here. Listening to his talk after the french game I felt he's way out of his league but then, the poor sod was probably so relieved to have a win, any win under the belt no doubt he was delighted.
The team again just looked like a bunch of individuals IMO
 

Skinner

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Micistm said:
I do feel really sorry for Kemble, and I have no idea where it goes from here. Listening to his talk after the french game I felt he's way out of his league but then, the poor sod was probably so relieved to have a win, any win under the belt no doubt he was delighted.
The team again just looked like a bunch of individuals IMO

You have a way of expressing thoughts better than I.

You are dead right.
 

ozbash

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The team again just looked like a bunch of individuals IMO

reminded me of an old Lion Red Cup game.
 
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