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Kiwis 2007

Hallatia

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I am confused by the feedback, how do you want me to fix it?

my all gold references are to say that eligibility is a farce and it depends on who the one making the decision is rather than the actual player (my brain is really not working at the moment, I will explain it later and make the article make more sense)

I should synthesise a little better, when my brain starts working again I will take another look at it and try to fix it
 

Jesbass

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madunit said:
In 1911 a combined Australia and New Zealand side toured england under the Australian team name. Arthur Francis, George Gillott, Charlie Savory, Frank Woodward and in 1921-22, Bert Laing. Those Players are classified as Australian Test Players.

They are also qualified as New Zealand test players. (Well, Charles Savory is, anyway - I only know because my article is about him.)

Dally Messenger also played for both nations and was classified as a test player for both nations.
 

Willow

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LeagueNut said:
Mixmasterreece - looks bloody good mate! :thumb

Locky_Jr - do footnotes count in the word count? - Yes (as far as I know). References don't though. Willow might be able to answer this one better - even though it grates me to see Australian team members loafing around in our thread ... :crazy:
lol.
Nah... keep me out of it. I'm sure the Kiwi skipper knows the rules as well as any F7s slogger. ;-)
 

LeagueNut

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Locky_Jr said:
my all gold references are to say that eligibility is a farce and it depends on who the one making the decision is rather than the actual player
What I'm trying to say is that the upcoming "All Golds" match at the end of this year is only a commemorative match, and the eligibility criteria don't apply for that particular game. It's kind of like the Anzacs match from 2005 (I think?) when they wore those half-Kiwi/half-Aussie jerseys.

Griffo - looks good mate! :D
 

madunit

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Jesbass said:
They are also qualified as New Zealand test players. (Well, Charles Savory is, anyway - I only know because my article is about him.)

Dally Messenger also played for both nations and was classified as a test player for both nations.
thats exactly right, all those players from 1911-12 tour are recognised as test players for both nations, as they all played for Australasia (However, I believe the test records show that the victories went to Australia only, not to Australia and New Zealand.)

However, Bert Laing is not recognised as being a kiwi international for his part in the 1921-22 Kangaroo tour, as he toured with the Australian team, not the Australasian team.

Bert's story is one I've been trying to figure out for many moons.
 

LeagueNut

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We're looking good for a victory here!! :D

Fulltime is rapidly approaching though ... here's where we're standing:

LeagueNut - posted
Jesbass - work in progress, will be in
Robster - interviewing a cheerleader
[furrycat] - he must still be around, I can smell him
byrne_rovelli_fan82 - work in progress
Locky_Jr - just needs a little fine-tuning
Mixmasterreece - posted

Reserves:
griffo346 - article on standby if needed (but needs a title!)
Murphdogg1 - standing by
madunit - providing plenty of support from the bench

Locky - are you OK with the suggestions from the team about your article? Sing out if you're stuck mate, we'll look after you. Us Kiwis are a pretty tight bunch.

GO THE MIGHTY KIWIS!!
 

Hallatia

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thankyou LeagueNut:D it was all great and much appreciated
I think I am finally okay with it now, I just have to make it fit into the word limit, I will post it as soon as I cut about 15 more words
 

Hallatia

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I am officially posted, if anybody has a problem with anything I wrote feel free to point it so I can fix it in time and depending on my mood kick your arse
 

Robster

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Yo Leaguenut, te cheerleader is to busy to get interviewe and with the amount of work I'm doing lately I can't fit in time to write a decent article. Sorry mate but you can give Tonie Carrol (griffo346) ago.
 

LeagueNut

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Robster said:
Yo Leaguenut, te cheerleader is to busy to get interviewe and with the amount of work I'm doing lately I can't fit in time to write a decent article. Sorry mate but you can give Tonie Carrol (griffo346) ago.
You were brushed by the cheerleaders too aye? Maybe we should start a support group ... :sarcasm:

Griffo346 - I'll sub you in to the match thread ... are you OK to post your article please? :D

Locky_Jr - nice white text you cheeky bugger! :lol:
 

LeagueNut

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Hey Griffo - hope this is OK, but I've made a few minor edits to your article, just fixing up a couple of spelling errors and stuff like that.

As for a title, something simple should do - even just Anzac Rugby League should be OK.

The ANZACS and rugby league players have some things that are common within each other; these are listed below:
• They fight for each other
• They represent their country

Hence why the National Rugby League has held this test in and around ANZAC Day for 7 of the last 10 years where Australia and New Zealand have competed in this emotional match.

There are a few memorable moments I’ve have read about and they would have to be when the New Zealanders came to Sydney for the first time to help kick off the football as a professional movement.
Anther memorable moment I’ve read about is “Rugby League and World War 1” - below is a quote I found very interesting when it came to league within the army.

A recent example...

"History shows that league officials in Australia took advantage of the war to build their own game. Lest we forget, Michael McKernan, a leading authority on World War I, in 1979 wrote an essay called Sport, War and Society. McKernan disclosed that rugby league officials did little to support the war effort. McKernan noted that according to official records about 75% of the unmarried rugby league players called up in September 1916 somehow managed to avoid the draft."

Rugby News magazine (New Zealand) April 2005

When the first match was introduced to the annual schedule it was known as the ANZAC test. This was controversial for its use of the term 'ANZAC' (Australian and New Zealand Army Corps) and its perceived comparison of professional sportsmen with soldiers.

The first of these matches was in 1997 during the “Super League era” with Australia defeating New Zealand 34-22.

Trans-Tasman League matches have been going since the league started way back in 1908 and will celebrate its centenary next season. During these 99 years we have seen legends play our fine game.

Every man to pull on the Kangaroo’s jersey was the pick of the crop; Masters of their art... although some men have made so much more of an impact to the game, men of the calibre of Reg Gasiner, Clive Churchill to Brad Fittler and Andrew Johns. I understand that there a fair bit of a gap between these great players but I haven’t the word count to list every player to don the representative Jersey.

Having these players in the history of our game is the reason the game is where it is now, and why we go on to remember these guys with the induction to the Immortals, the Hall of Fame, and with some players having medals named after them like the great Clive Churchill whom played for the might of the South Sydney Rabbitohs through their glory days.

In each game there has been a great player or a great team effort but generally they don’t over shadow the great plays that players pull off within this great game. It could be anything from a chip kick to a cut out pass to find the winger in space down the touch line.

These plays can also be pulled out of nowhere, with a magical inside pass to find the gap in the defence of the opposition. These plays can often lead to the breaking of a side, and when pulled off it can inspire a team to go on with the game or it can make the side cocky and therefore inspire the opposition.

Many individual milestones have been reached within our fine game from players making their debut and also being able to sing that national anthem for the first time, to a player playing his last game in the colours of his country.

I will leave this article with my last quote below

“They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old;
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.”

References used

http://www.anzacday.org.au/education/tff/rememwords.html - Ode
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZAC_Test - History Section
http://rl1908.com/articles/nz-1908.htm - My Memorable moment
http://rl1908.com/articles/war.htm
Just run it through the Word Counter again first, but it should be good to go!
 
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Robster said:
Yo Leaguenut, te cheerleader is to busy to get interviewe and with the amount of work I'm doing lately I can't fit in time to write a decent article. Sorry mate but you can give Tonie Carrol (griffo346) ago.

hard luck Robster she probably didn't want to be abducted
 

Jesbass

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Okay, I'm not overly confident about this article as the two parallel stories may make it seem disjointed. Your thoughts and feedback would be most appreciated.

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Brothers In Arms (750 words according to the F7s word counter)

war-1.jpg

The soldier shifted nervously as the small landing craft made its agonisingly slow passage towards the steep and rugged coastline. With the sun yet to rise, he squinted his eyes and peered through the darkness at the shadowed horizon. With his heart pounding, the Lance Corporal gripped his rifle firmly, double checking that his bayonet was in place, as the lifeboat was rowed closer to shore, the first crackles of gunfire audible from the towering ridges ahead.

These mist covered mountains
Are a home now for me
But my home is the lowlands
And always will be​

Charles Savory was never far from controversy. Born in Auckland in 1899, the keen sportsman initially picked up rugby union as his sport of choice. After allegedly kicking an opposition player in a club match in 1910, and receiving a two year ban as a result, Savory switched to rugby league, where he earned a reputation as a fearless and rugged prop forward.

He represented New Zealand in the thirteen man game against Australia in 1911, and played to such a high level that he was invited to join the Kangaroos on their tour of Great Britain, not unlike what Dally Messenger had done for the All Golds only four years earlier.

Some day you’ll return to
Your valley and your farms
And you’ll no longer burn
To be brothers in arms​

Letting out a battle cry, the non-commissioned officer leapt from the boat and into the cold water of the Dardanelles, running as fast as he could, desperately trying to find safe ground amidst the fury of gunfire. As sunlight began to gently creep over the rugged terrain above them, the invading soldiers managed to dig themselves into positions in the side of the cliff.

Through these fields of destruction
Baptisms of fire
I’ve witnessed your suffering
As the battle raged higher​

During a 1912 match against Auckland club side Newton, Savory first found himself on the wrong side of the judiciary. Having been sent off during the game, and after a failed appeal, the burly prop was suspended for the rest of the season, costing him the opportunity to take part in a second tour of Australia.

The following year, just days after having been selected in the national side, Savory was caught in what he forever labelled a case of mistaken identity. At an inquiry held by the Auckland Rugby League, the Kiwi forward was found guilty of kicking and banned for life.

The New Zealand Rugby League’s reaction was swift, and although they selected another player to take Savory’s place in the tour, they allowed an appeal to be heard. After finding there was no case to answer, they allowed the former rugby union player to return to the playing field.

And though they did hurt me so bad
In the fear and alarm
You did not desert me
My brothers in arms​

The Lance Corporal took a deep breath as he looked over his equipment, making sure there was nothing missing and that he was ready for battle. The word had just come through: they were to advance on the enemy’s position. The soldier had encountered battle before, albeit on a rugby league field. The countrymen of his former opposition were now his comrades, fighting somebody else’s war in a far off land.

There’s so many different worlds
So many different suns
And we have just one world
But we live in different ones​

In the aftermath of Savory’s disqualification and reinstatement, a split formed between the Auckland Rugby League and the New Zealand Rugby League that still exists to this day. After earning another international cap in 1914, the man whom the controversy surrounded became the New Zealand amateur heavyweight boxing champion, before signing up to perform his duty after the outbreak of World War One.

Now the sun’s gone to hell
With the moon riding high
Let me bid you farewell
Every man has to die​

Yelling out “I’m going to fight for my country”, Lance Corporal Charles Savory charged the enemy positions in an ill-fated attack. He was killed by Turkish artillery fire, and was later credited for his bravery during the battle. Despite what some league officials had thought two years earlier, Savory proved in death that he had been a worthy representative of New Zealand.

But it’s written in the starlight
And every line on your palm
We’re fools to make war
On our brothers in arms​

war-2.jpg


Lest we forget.

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Sources:
www.cwgc.org
www.lighthorse.org.au
www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Krithia
www.letssingit.com - song lyrics - 'Brothers In Arms' by Dire Straits, 1985
'The Kiwis: 100 Years Of International Rugby League' by John Coffey and Bernie Wood
Wanganui Herald, 26th July 1915, Page 5
 

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